Breadcrumb placeholders in a multi authored project

Good afternoon Robohelp community!
Today's puzzle sees a master and child project in a mulit-authoring environment. Both projects use identical copies of the stylesheet and master page in which two authors may work on seperate parts of the project at once, then use the merged project feature when publishing.
The master page in both the master and child projects' contains the breadcrumb placeholder, which has been labled ABC123. The master is generated, and the child is generated and published.
When reviewing the combined output however, the breadcrumb for the child version has reverted to the inbuilt placeholder Home. The master version remains as it should be.
e.g.
Master ABC123 | Main Topic | Sub Topic
Child Home | Main Topic | Sub Topic
While the easiest fix is to simple use the Home place holder, I would rather use my own.
Has anybody else discovered this issue, and have a solution?
Cheers

I'm not an Adobe tester but my test suggests they did do their job.
I just tested a merged webhelp setup and it seems to be working as it should.
Where you see Home above, you can type in anything you want. I added Peter to the parent and it then appeared in all topics regardless of project. That is the same logic as skins. Open the parent and all topics appear in that skin. Open a child and its skin is used.
When I added a label, that only appeared in topics from the child where the label was set. Thus some topics had a label and others did not. I could have set all the projects with the same label or I could have defined a different label for each project.
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See snippet 14 on Peter Grainge's site for the blank topic issue, and snippets 23, 31 and 34 for what's in the patches.
http://www.grainge.org/pages/authoring/rh7/using_rh7.htm
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Greetings:
Is Adobe looking to price itself out of the HAT market?
Just got the pricing on RH Server 8 ($2000) and then another $1000 per RH 8 client (as I write this I am still verifying the pricing, because they first told me each user will need a full RH Server 8 license, meaning $10K for 5 authors). For five authors, that's $7000 (unless its $10,000 ;-), and about 99% overkill on the multi-authoring side, since we only need one RH 8 client for management and publishing, and a simple WYSIWYG for additional authors is all that is needed, and indeed the learning curve for RH versus a WYSIWYG makes this paying a lot of money for a huge training burden & support headache. Is this for real?
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Shame, shame, Adobe.
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"I am but an egg."
--Stranger in a Strange Land

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