Broadband suspended - Why??

Browsing the web this morning I got a popup from BT saying effectively that I hadn't paid my bill and my account was suspended. I was then stuck with this page and coundn't navigate away from it.
My latest bill states it should be paid by the 2nd April.
I paid the bill over the phone and my broadband service has just unfrozen.
I wonder if one of the mods might care to explain why this happened? Broadband is important to me for paying bills, especially at the end of the month. To just disconnect it without warning like that could have caused me all sorts of problems.
I rang the Indian 'help' desk and of course they were completely useless.

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    thedoctor.

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  • My second BT ordeal in six months - second attempt

    Oops.. I think I may have only posted the title of this message first time around.
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    Hi David,
    I couldn't say for sure without looking at your account first but if we are able to do the cease and then transfer the number across it could take a day or two for the renumber order to complete. Your Broadband service shouldn't be interrupted during this. It does mean that the number currently active in your hall will be inactive for a few days until the renumber order completes.
    The link in my profile is http://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact_email/c/4951 that should make it a bit easier to find 
    Once I have those details I should be able to say for sure how long the hole process will take. I can totally understand your wife's frustration it does sound like you have been through a bit of a nightmare recently.
    Thanks
    Paddy
    BTCare Community Mod
    If we have asked you to email us with your details, please make sure you are logged in to the forum, otherwise you will not be able to see our ‘Contact Us’ link within our profiles.
    We are sorry but we are unable to deal with service/account queries via the private message(PM) function so please don't PM your account info, we need to deal with this via our email account :-)

  • At the end of my patience with BT

    Two weeks ago, a rushed delivery driver rounding the tight corner in the dark outside of my house crashed into my telegraph pole (actually on the roadside). It made a very loud noise, I rushed outside but he had driven away leaving part of the vans trim behind (which I have still got). I find it hard to believe that the instant problems that I have had with my telephone and broadband since then are not connected. Initially I noticed that the telephone line was very noisy, then I noticed that the broadband (usually 6.5-ish MBps) was much reduced - I used the BT Wholesale Speedtest and discovered that it was 3.9 MBps,
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    The engineer visited, he replaced the main socket to a brand-new one as the existing socket (although the newer vision style, one socket above the other) was known to have issues. The phone was quiet, broadband showed 4.5 MBps but that was because the IP Profile was 4.5MBps - he suggeated I call it in and get the Profile reset. As he left I was on the phone, I waited 12 minutes to get through to 'stage 1' and noticed that as time passed the a noise started and grew to the same level as before his visit, I then spent another 3 hours reporting the problem, getting disconnected, starting again, getting cut-off when line testing whilst I was invited to accept a call on my mobile which being in a poor reception area was always going to be a bad option, then getting cut-off again between transfers to 'Level 2' and restarting the whole thing from scratch. Ultimately a very nice Level 2 lady promised me that unlike my experience to date, she would personally ensure that my Profile was improved and call me the next morning (today) between 9 and 10am to confirm everything was ok and if not, send out an engineer. By 10pm last night I indeed had a connection speed of 6.9MBps, the phone line was quiet, my Profile was 7.1MBps. She called this morning and I thanked her for her help and we went our seperate ways.
    Twenty minutes after her call it rained, the phone line became very noisy, my connection speed dropped to 2.5MBps dropping out every 5 minutes, disaster. I called it in again, another wasted 2 hours that I will never get back, only cut off twice this time, on one occasion I got a voice mail message saying "we were cut off, call in again and someone will help you" I felt quite angry by that point. On my final try I got through to someone who listened and has arranged an engineer for Tuesday (Christmas Eve!) but that as he can see nothing wrong with the line, and as the noise cleared up during the course of our conversation, that I will possibly get charged £129 for the privilige. Throughout all of this, no-one would consider the Telegraph pole damage as a potention cause of a HR fault, especially in the presence of water from rain. I have tried to get it across but one of the Bangalore crowd just gave me Openreach's telephone number to get it sorted, I only realised that was a 'get rid of him' tactic when the chap at Openreach said that basically they only deal with poles knocked over or dangerous in some other way.
    The last Adviser suggested I left it a few days and if not resolved call it in again, it was 13.03pm, I explained that it had taken from 10am to get to that stage with him, there was no way I was going to start from scratch reporting the same problem on Monday, he promised to call me on Monday (the day before the engineer visit was arranged) so we had time to cancel it if all was well (although as nothing was being done in the meantime, no IP profile reset etc it was most unlikely to mend itself by my past experience) He thought it was probably a faulty Hub, he asked me to refit the original which I did, the inevitabilty of the eventual fail is so draining.
    I live in a Rural area, there is no fibre optic, I have spent the last few minutes prior to registering on this forum investigating Satellite Broadband. Why can BT simply not send one person, capable of broadband AND phone? Why is the Indian Call-Centre so regimented in adhering to a standard script showing almost no initiative. What ever happened to the UK Call-Centre? Most importantly, bearing in mind that my current fault is the same as it has been since the van-crash - what do you Moderators suggest that I get the engineer to specifically do if on Tuesday when he turns up he finds 'no-issue'? - ask him to wait for it to rain?
    Apologies for this long rant but the inability to talk to a UK based, free-thinking Technical Help and Customer Service Departments must be costing a fortune. Forget the savings in running the technicians abroad, they cannot possible offset the wasted time, replacement equipment thats not needed, engineer visits that are not addressing the real issues (my first engineer was telephone, not broadband) and the resulting customer disatisfaction must force customers to leave BT in droves. I used to be with Plus Net and only transferred to get Vision, Bt own Plus Net, they could learn a great deal from their Customer Service model, this is all so sad.
    Regards
    Scott
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    Engineer called on Christmas Eve and diagnosed a HR fault which he struggled to find. In the end he re-routed the line feed back to the exchange (700 metres away), found the connection in the exchange, came back to the house and the phone line was silent and the broadband experienced a solid connection. Since then I have had a 4.8/4.9MBps connection as the IP profile is set at 5MB. I received a call from the Tech in Bangalore who put forward a reset for me but being by that time 5pm on Christmas Eve It would be unreasonable to expect it to be implimented before the end of play on Friday 27th - so I am being patient. 
    Many of us, who have vast experience, feel frustrated by the call-centre 'script' system that treats us all the same ("have you tried turning it off and on again? What colours are the lights on the front of the hub?"!!!) But just how do you get the Call Centre staff to appreciate that some of us can diagnose quite complicated problems on our own, and only contact them when we know an engineer is required on-site? Personally I would PAY to have a way of contacting a UK based BT Tech Support that could listen and respond appropriately, for BT, surely that would save them time and money too. 
    So other than the IP profile issue this is now solved, it was a High Resistance fault, I told them that when I first reported it on about 12th December (at which point the Bangalore Call Centre Chap said "what is a HR fault?" - I had to explain it). Since then I have spent probably 14 very frustrating hours on the telephone to BT (in the busiest week of the year), had two engineer visits (the first was a 'phone only' subcontractor not trained in broadband, the second fixed the issue) and I have also been supplied with a new Hub (which was unnecessary, I did point that out) and I am left feeling let down by their inability to listen and consider that the customer may have been right.
    If the speed issue is not resolved I will re-post stage two of this saga, other than that I do hope that I do not need to come back to post on the forum again. Simple faults turn into extended and unbelievable drama thanks to the way BT organise their customer service nowadays, everyone has at least one story, some have many. I have 10 months of my contract left, maybe I should go back to PlusNet ? They have UK based sensible staff and when I have experienced a fault in the past I have left it to them to bludgen BT engineering into mending the infrastructure, saving me doing do the leg-work, wasting all this time and getting frustrated and stressed myself.
    For those still struggling with the BT behemoth I sympathise, I hope that you are lucky enough to get through to someone who takes you seriously and does not let go of your problem until it is solved.
    Lets all hope for a Happy, Prosperous and Fault-Free New Year!
    Regards
    Scott

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