Budget Structure depth

Hello All
In the configuration for Compensation Management, while doing the Budget Structures,I have made one budget object structure for the merit increase process.
Do i have to make one budget for each of the org units involved for the full org structure?
Or would one budget unit be enough which would have the org unit as parent org unit ?
I see the option for specifying the depth of the budget structure, what would I populate in that?

Hi,
Each Budget structure will have one to one relationship with the Org struture.
So if you keep the Depth blank or 0, the Budget units will be created with one to one relationship till the lowest org unit.
SAP recommends to create the Budget unit from Root Org unit.
Once the Budget structure is created you need to fill the Budget values into the Budget structure for further processing ..and once the Budget is checked & released , its available to the Managers for planning.
Cheers!!!!!!
Sanjay Sharma

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Hi all ,
When we are creating budget heirarchy using "PECM_GENERATE_BUDGET", we want to create it from org structure that is effective on a particular date and not for all org assignments.
For example :
For budget effective 01/01/2011 to 12/31/2011. We may want to create Budget structure from org structure that effective 12/31/2011.
( The standard transactcion "PECM_GENERATE_BUDGET" creats structures for all the effective dates )
Let's say, I have Org units Org1 and Org2 at the same level. Org3 reports to Org1 from 01/01/2011 to 11/20/2011. But effective 12/01/2011, Org 3 reports to Org 2.
01/01/2011 to 11/30/2011 -> Org3 reports to Org1
12/01/2011 to 12/31/9999 -> Org3 reports to Org2
When I run ""PECM_GENERATE_BUDGET"" this generates a budget heirarchy, that shows Org3 reporting to both O1 and O2,
whereas we want Org3 to be just shown in the hierarchy of Org2 ( effective 12/31/2011).
I see that the FM "'HR_ECM_GET_OBJECT_STRUCTURE" and "HR_ECM_BUILD_BUDGET_STRUC" generate budget structure, by taking the begin and end date of budget period( 01/01/2011 to 12/31/ 2011) into account to create the org structure. But we just want the latest structure effective on a particular date.
Has any faced this kind of scenario/requirement as this seems to be the standard budget creation functionality.
Appreciate any inputs
regards

Hi - When you are creating budget sturcture based on org. unit the system will create budget structure on the basis of defined budget period
Pls. try delimiting 01/01/2011 to 11/30/2011 -> Org3 reports to Org1 relationship and create budget structure. I feel you should be fine then.
which EHP are you in? If you are using EHP 5 its give option to generate top down or bottom up budget structure.
Can you also reply to one of my post.

Is there a way to use "*" in the Budget Structure BCS

Dear Gurus,
We are migrating from FBS to BCS (in ECC6).
In FBS we had a Budget structure and we used the character " * " for the commiment items (the control is between Fund and Fund center)
We activated BCS and we have now 4 axes with the Funded Program.
We want to keep the control between Fund and Fund center and we planned to use " * " for the commiment item and " * " for the funded program.
It seems impossible in FMBSPO and FMBSPO_MULT.
We look at the Customizing, OSS but we did'nt find any clue.
We try to fill the Budget structure with the posting adresses ==> we have more than 23 million lines (and it wasn't with all the master data), the processing time is unbelievable and we're afraid for the future (how to do if we create one new commiment item?)
Was anybody already confronted with the problem? How did you deal with that point?
Thank you by advance.
Best regards
Geneviève Michon

The answer to your question is no.
That said, and I don't want to risk my install at the moment to test it, I think you could go to the library directory, create a new folder (category) called "All Templates," copy all the individual files from all the categories into this one, and then select that category - thereafter that category should load.

ECM- how to assign amount to the budget structure ?

Hi,
I'm new to Enterprise Compensation Management (ECM Module).
I need to know how we create a budget structure for org units? How we assign amount to the budget structure.
I found one program 'RHECM_BUDGET_GENERATE' which generates the budget structure, but it doesn't assign the amount. So how to assign the budget amount. Which transaction we use for the same ? or Is there any FM which assigns the amount to the budget structure? I am trying to enhance the program 'RHECM_BUDGET_GENERATE' so that it assigns the budget amount also.
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Funds Management - Budget Structure

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Is it required to create budget structure? and make Budget address check active in version. I understand we can restrict the budgetable addresses. In what way does it serve the business purpose.
I am thinking of implementing BCS without budget structure ( bud address / posting address etc.) in place. Am I going far off from the standard, Any suggestions?
If you have implemented FM, did you create budget structure.
Thanks
Chris

Hi Chris,
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BAPI for FM9K(Change Budget Structure)?

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Budget Structure, Posting Address and Budgeting Address Error

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I am having a big issue with Budgeting and posting of expenditure against budgets. Whenever, I try to create a vendor invoice for my system where FM has been configured I get the following error.
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Budget Structure

Hi Experts,
In my project, already we did entire cycle from Project System to MM. Now my client wants do some changes in Investment module that u201C relocation of one budget structure to another budget structureu201D.
If I did this changes as per client request, the entire cycle which was done already will gets affected of this changes ..Please confirm me whether entire cycle will gets affected of this budget structure change.
Thanks,
Thomas

Hi Kelvin,
The cycle that you have already executed need notr get affected by the change in the IM structure or Budgeting provided.
You can isolate your project from IM till the time these changes are carried out. There may be few other ways depending your particular situation, but I am writing one possible way:
1. Take a snap shot of all Budget/Release values for the proj
2. De-activate Budget Availability control on the project
3. Delete all release for lower level WBSE
4. Delete Budget for lower level WBSE
5. Delete Release as well as Budget for the top level WBSE
6. Delete the assignment to the IM program
7. Carryout changes to the IM program structure and budgeting
8. Reassign the project to the program
9. carryout the budgeting/release again
10. activate availability control
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Budget structure problem of internal companies ..

Hi experts,
I am having problem for creating and using the structure below ,as I wanted. I am trying to find a solution which I could not get to so far.
Here is my case ;
I have 3 companies.They make budget planning in the same platform since they are internal companies.
Each company has its own sales organization ,cost centers , sales products. And the structure of these 3 companies basicly
defined as below.
entity dimesion:
ABC_Company_Grup
Company-A
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               Customer-2
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               Cost-center-4
Company-C
sales-organization-C
               Customer-3
               Customer-4
     Cost-center-organization-C
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account dimension:
Product-1 (COMPANY-A uses only)
Product-2 (COMPANY-A uses only)
Product-3 (COMPANY-B and COMPANY-C uses only)
Product-4 (COMPANY-B and COMPANY-C uses only)
1.I am having difficulty to create the structure above since it is not allowed to repeat member name.
2.I have to create cost center , customer and product members related to the companies so I can show them in data form ,kind of filtered.
anyone who had this kind of case .?
any advice please.. please.. please..
regards,

The challenge you're facing has a couple of names . . . some people call this a "cross validation rule", and others call it "valid data combinations". The idea is that you want to filter access to certain members based upon other members selected. This would get you away from having to maintain separate hierarchies in other dimensions for each company.
The bad news is that there is no support for valid data combination constraints in Hyperion Planning currently. The good news is that it was mentioned in the road map for future product enhancements at the Kaleidoscope conference (no specifics on timelines or specific versions though . . . . ).
Let's use product as an example here. With current functionality, you could:
1) Create a common hierarchy for product, used by all companies.
2) Create different ID's with specific access to each company.
3) Restrict access to products using security.
4) Create forms that "suppress no access", so invalid products don't show up.
They key is that each ID has access to only one company. Use a similar methodology to address overlaps in other dimensions. It's not 100% clean, but should get you close until true "valid member combinations" are supported by Planning.
Hope this makes sense.
- Jake

SAP Retail budget structure

Good day Gurus
Someone can tell me what is the structure of the budget information and where I can look at SAP Retail?
Greetings and thanks !!
Aramirez

Hi,
This business function uses the following BC sets:
The business fn names and their description are given below:
EA-RETAIL-AKH
Extends the application component hierarchy to include entries for SAP Retail
EA-RETAIL-IMG
Extends the implementation guide (IMG) to include entries for SAP Retail
EA-RETAIL-MENU
Extends the SAP menu to include entries for SAP Retail
The listed BC sets are activated automatically if your system is run as SAP Retail.
Also regarding the changing of scenario, once you create the scenario you can go to customization and change it.
regards,
Siddharth.
Edited by: SD on Jan 12, 2008 7:42 AM

Budget Structure: Create Posting Addresses

Hi
I have a unique scenario where in for one FM area "ABC", Fund is activated and made mandatory for BCS(IMG:Activate Account Assignment Elements in Budget Control System).
For another FM area "XYZ", the fund is made "not used" in IMG "Activate Account Assignment Elements in Budget Control System".
Now while creating Budgeting Addresses for FM area = XYZ, system does not show "Fund" in selection criteria, as desired.
But while creating Posting Addresses for FM area = XYZ, system shows "Fund" in selection criteria.
Now if i try to create Posting addresses by giving only Fund Center and Commitment Item, it throws an error "Enter Fund".
By deactivating "Fund" from global setting(IMG:Activate Account Assignment Elements), system does not show "Fund" in selection criteria but this is not desired as other FM area uses "Fund" attribute.
Please help.

Thanks Alex
Actually i got that thought once, but then thought that if there is some other way where specifically we can deactivate fund, just the way its getting done for Budgeting Addresses.
Also the second thought was about one to one internal assignment of Budgeting addresses and Posting Addresses, then system would take "Fund = Blank" and make the assignment.
I assume there will not be any other way to deactivate fund for posting addresses for one FM area and keep it activated for posting addresses for another FM area.
Regards

Why upper lever of budget structure consume the budget!

Dear experts:
      I had meet the following problems, please give me some good advice how to solve the problem. thanks! the details are that:
     My sap system is ERP2004, i activated the PSM-FM and use the former budget module. The budget stucture is that: fund center level 0C0000\0C0500 and the commitment item level is: 6000000008\6601480100. I have entry the budget amount according the budget stucture.when I posted an account document , then get the error message: BP 629 . Item 001 0C0500 /6601480100 payment budget exceeded, when I check the original budget use Tcode:FR05, find there are budget amount :8000.then I check the error message again and find that: when post the document , which consume the upper level 0c0500/6000000008 's budget, and the budget amount of the lever of 0C0500/6000000008 are be assigned to the lower lever, such as the 0C0500/6601480100, so the upper lever has no enough budget amount. By the way, the commitment item 6000000008 is defined "not posted". What is the reason.
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Best regards!
wayne.xie

Hello Wayne,
Please have a look at this IMG Activity:
Funds Management Government->Former Budgeting->Availability Control->
Define Parameters for Availability Control.
Standard settings
The standard setting is that availability control runs against the first
budget object within the hierarchy. If you want to work with this
availability control search logic, you do not have to make an entry for
your FM areas.
Otherwise you should flag 'Check on lowest object with budget' On
Hope it helps
Kind regards
Mar

Table for Budget Structure - FM9k

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I need to write the bdc for the fields in fm9k.
I have the select the tick mark through my bdc in the tcode FM9k.
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please guide me..
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please check the link below
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Budget entry documents with wrong Budget hierarchy doc

Hello Colleagues !
I have this opened question from a customer:
======================================================
Hello!
We have implemented FM- Former management module in SAP Enterprise
system. We have problem with budget documents after budget figures
entering in productive system for 2009 year.
The situation is following:
We have the Funds Center hierarchy (as an example):
T -> T1 -> T17 -> T171
After Budget entry, the budget hierarachy document prepared only for
few Funds center hierarchy levels:
T -> T1 -> T171( see in attached pictures).
The same situation we have also with all others budget documents as well
however the budget structure is performed for all levels and without
errors. As a result we have problems wth our reporting system.
What can we do to repair these documents?
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Any hint will be much appreciated
Best Regards,
Vanessa.

Ilona:
If I understand your problem correctly, you entered budget in the amount of $100 at the T171 funds center level. The same $100 should appear in T17, T1 and T superior funds centers as well based on your hierarchy. If so, please try this. In the FR04 transaction on the selection screen, enter funds center T (highest funds center level) and your fund information, etc. On the second screen, change the period from 07 to YEAR (scroll to the top of the drop down list). The Distribution Key column should then be visible. You should see the following:
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        T        $100          0
        T1      $100          0
        T17     $0             0
        T171   $100          1
You should be able to change the amount at the T17 level to $100 and change the distribution key to 1 (equal distribution). Use the check (F7) function to ensure that the hierarchy is in balance. If no errors are received, you should be able to post the hierarchy correction.
Edited by: Karen Jobe on Jan 14, 2009 8:44 AM

Putting the budget in BCS

Hello!
Defined hierarchy commitment items. It is required that you enter the budget document (FMBBC) system produced control: the sum of the subordinate commitment item must be equal to the sum of the higher commitment item, or should receive an error message. For example, OP1 OP2 and consists of FP3. Enter the 500 usd on OP2 and 300 usd for FP3, if the OP1 indicate 600 usd, then an error message, since 600 is not equal to 500 300
I know that in the classical budget and work (FR04), if the STD is defined accordingly. What settings neobodimy in BCS?

Hi,
The budget in BCS works differently. First of all, please clarify what you mean by hierarchy... Suppose, you have CI1 which is the farther of CI2 and CI3. Do you put budget on (CI2 and CI3) or on CI1? Putting it on all 3 CI does not make sense. The control on the hierarchy level is further managed by budget structure addresses or via AVC definitions. However, if you want to make logic on budget entry, this could be achieved by conssitency control in BCS.
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Regards,
Eli

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