Business systems
is it possible to send and receive the data by using only one business systemses for both sender communication channel and receiver communication channel
hi Ramakrishna,
yes it is possible to send and receive the data through one Business System.
in Integration Directory (ID) add your Business System to your Configuration Scenario.
use that Business System to your Sender and Receiver communication Channels.
and one more is you can also use the same Business System for another Configuration Scenario too.
Cheers,
Ashok.
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Logical System Name Not appearing in the Business System
Hi,
Initially we had created a Technical system with Client 700 without a "Logical System Name" in SLD. hence the 'logical system name' in 'business system' was also Blank.
Now, since we are implementing the IDOC to file scenario; we need to maintain the "Logical System Name" in the client and which in turn should reflect in our Business System in SLD.
Though we maintained the Logical System Name in the Technical System --> Client --> Logical System Name; we are unable to see the same(Logical System Name) in Business System ('Integration' tab)
Please also note that Business System is of the ROLE: Integration server.
When we go to business system in SLD ---Integrtaion tab ---Logical System Name -- is still blank.
Can anyone please help us to update the 'Logical system name' in Business System in SLD?
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RehanHi Sunil,
I followed your link till
Bussiness System -> select your bussiness System -> in Below pane u will find Details of your bussiness system ->amongs the various tabs available select Integration Tab->U will See option for technical system beside that u will see option for change ->click this ->u will be taken to Logical system ->there u define u r logical syatem name and then save the entries.
When I clicked the option chnage ---> "Change Associated Technical System" appeared, It didn't take me to Logical system.
But in turn I clicked hyperlink corresponding to Technical systems, it took me to technical system --> clients tab --I have entered the Logical system name.
When I go back to Business system again its not showing the Logical system name in Integration tab.
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rehan -
Logical system and business system
Hi experts, please help me with the below questions---
1) What is the diff between logical system and business system?
2)what is the difference between logical system(defined in R/3) and business system (defined in SLD) in idoc to file scenario.
3) Is it require to give the logical system name of the xi server(Which we define in idx1 port) to the 3rd party system(Application system at the FTP side) to carry out file to idoc scerario?Hi,
Business System :
1. Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within XI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems. Depending on the associated technical system.
2. Business Systems should be mandatory used when dealing with Idoc's and Proxies .
Business Service:
1. Business Service requires manual adding on Inbound and Outbound Interfaces, Business Systems do not.
2. Business Services are maintained across environments and so, their names cannot be changed. Business Systems names can be changed across environments by providing SLD level transport targets.
3.In the Business Services we cannot maintain the Group and Targets in SLD. For Ease in transporting your ID/Configuration objects Groups and Targets are used in SLD for Business Systems.
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Regards
Sangeetha -
Business Systems and Business Service - does any difference
Hi Experts,
Could any one please guide me what is the difference between
Business Systems
and
Business Service.
Which situations we use Business Systems / Business Service.
Does it have any performance issues?
Why we are not configuring Business service in SLD?
Cheers Experts!!
SunilHi Sunil,
Business System: Address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system
(service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software
component versions of the business system. The business system services are used when
configuring internal company processes.
Business Systems are Logical Senders or Receivers that exchange messages by using the Integration
Server and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The Business Systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The Business Systems of business partners are therefore not entered in the System Landscape
Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use communication components in
the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a communication component in the
Integration Directory more precisely (business system component).
Business Service: Address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies
involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces. The business services are used when
configuring cross-company processes.
In the PCK, the Service is of type Business Service. It represents an abstract, addressable unit.
Business services are used in cross-company processes, for example, if the parties involved have only
published their interfaces and not their system landscape, or it is only partly known.
Using a Business Service,we can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved
and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
It is useful to use Business Services when configuring cross-company processes. Usually, the
interface descriptions of the business partners involved are made publicly available.
Also,There is already lot of thread regarding the same discussion, please see it below.
Business service or Business system??
Re: Business Service <--> Business System
Difference between Business service, Business system and Business process
Business Service vs Business System in Integration Directory.
Business Service (vs) Business System in Integration Directory.
What is the difference between Business System and Business Service?
business system and business service
Diff b/w Business service & Business System?
Regards,
Vinod. -
Logical system name in business system (SLD)
Hi,
While creating business system in SLD what should give for the logical system name?
Should the logical system name exists in ABAP stack or the new one?
Thanks.Hi,
If you are creating the BS for SAP R/3 in SLD means we have to give the LS name which we had in SAP R/3( goto SALE and take the LS from there)
Goto Assign LS-----take the client which you are using for SAP R/3 and take the LS name assigned to that Client
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Seshagiri -
Parties, Business Systems and Business Services
Hi guys,
I've read a lot about items in subject, but have some doubts about applying them to my scenario. I have to integrate SAP system and web service.
As far as I understand concepts, this is B2B communication, so I have to use parties. To represent SAP system I use Business System, as it's described ins SLD, and for Web service I use Business Service... just as we use business services for web services
--- Am I right here? Will it work ok in reciever determination, agreement?
Thank you.Hi,
You are doing the usage of business systems and services in proper way.
The scenario will difinately work with combination of business system and service.
It will be fine for all other configurations such as Receiver Determination, Sender/receiver agreements and interface determination etc.
Please see below the importance of Parties, Business Systems and Business Services
A communication party
A communication party (party for short) represents a larger unit, which is involved in a collaborative process. Using a communication party, you generally address a company within a cross-company process.
You can assign a communication party one or more services to address it as the sender or receiver of messages.
A business system
If you want to address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system (service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software component versions of the business system.
You usually use business system services when configuring internal company processes.
A business service
If you want to address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
You usually use business services when configuring cross-company processes. In this case, you only make your interfaces known to the business partners involved and either do not make any details about your own system landscape available, or only specific details.
For example, you can define RosettaNet Partner Interface Processes (PIPs) as business services.
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Swarup -
Problem with business systems in SLD
Hey guys
i m doing a IDOC to file scenario and m creating two business systems in SLD
the first one uses the logical system name of the R/3 server and has been configured as WAS ABAP.
when i try to create the second one as a third party using the logical system name i defined in BD54(on R/3 server),i get the error sayin that a business system already exist with the logical system name.
i do have one businees system which is using the same logical system but that has been configured as WAS ABAP.
cant i assign two different business names to same logical systems?
thanx
ahmad
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AhmadHey
thanx ,now when i try to use the same business system name for the R/3 server in the second scenaario,i dont see the business system in ID,i did cache refresh,
also just want to make sure
i have configured my SLD as under for the first scenario
created two business system,first one is using the logical system name of the R/3 server configured as WAS ABAP and the second one is configured as third paarty and using the logical system name created in BD54.
do these setting looks good to u?
now can i use both these business system in my second IDOC to File scenariio?
thanx
ahmad -
Technical systems and Business systems in SAP XI
can any one tell me ,breifly explain the diff b/w <b>Technical Systems</b> & Business Systems?
steps to create Techincal system and Business systems?
and also Steps for creating Software Components? For Technical System we can create more than one Business systems ,what it means?can any one explain?Hi
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
U can also refer Blog's
Re: Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems
For creation of software component see link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/3172d290-0201-0010-2b80-c59c8292dcc9
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Ajay Kumar -
Missing business systems in model configurator
Hello,
i am on PI 7.1 and have to configure a SRM scenario. In step "assign communication component" (business system) in the model configurator all business systems are missing.
Please the screenshot:
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What configuration is missing? In SLD all business systems with software are maintained.
Thanks for help
Regards, TrevorDear Trevor,
Let me solve your problem,
In the snapshot it says clearly that "Search Criteria" Communication Component Selection "Value" for Product SAP SRM 7.0
Which means in SLD it will search for the Business Systems which got assigned with Product SAP SRM 7.0.
So please check your SRM Business System "MSRCLNT001_SRM" and assign the Product SAP SRM 7.0 to it in SLD.
If you couldn't find the Product in the SLD then you must update your Content Repository to latest level SAP_CR 6.6 in SLD.
Please check the note for SAP CR Update:
SAP Note 669669 - Updating the SAP Component Repository in the SLD
Similarly you may face the problem for your ERP as well, so select Product SAP ERP 6.0 EHP 4 if you are implementing the same.
Hope this is helpful.
Regards
Praveen K -
Setting Business Systems in SLD
Hi,
In our SLD, we have two different Business Systems associated with the same ABAP Technical System and same client too. One BS is related to one Integration Server (XI) -this BS was imported in SLD- whereas another BS is related to another one (PI).
When we run a soap interface in XI, we see the request reaches the correct BS (XI BS). However, the response is sent by the PI BS through the XI interface, getting an error.
We need to have both Business Systems due to we are using the same SLD for XI and PI.
Any idea?
Thanks in advance,
Samantha.Hi Luqman,
Their names are different. Each BS is related to a different Integration Server, but their ABAP TS and client are equal.
XI interfaces should use the XI BS, whereas PI interfaces should the PI BS, but this is not so.
Is there any option that selects by default a particular BS in SLD when both BS using the same TS?
Thanks,
Samantha. -
Importing new business systems into Integration Directory PI 7.1
Team SDN,
Team We have presently upgraded to PI 7.1(inline upgrade XI 3.0 was the older version). There are some changes like Import of software component version from SLD to ESR. intially we use to do in Xi 3.0 by selcting tools and import, but now we have to do different manner like going to ESR click on new and under work areas we have SCV. Do we have any new procedure fro importing business system into integration directory PI 7.1.
Please share with members if wht are the new changes in PI 7.1 work proceses like the one i mentioned above importing SCV(please don't start ESR and blah blah) any real issues wht we will encounter in termsof PI 7.1
Thanks SDN.Hi Madhu,
If you want to create a communication component for a business system from the System Landscape Directory (SLD), choose the Business System menu option.In the wizard, select a business system from the SLD and create a communication component for it in the Integration Directory.
refer below link..
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwpi71/helpdata/EN/3e/60653f0c9fa075e10000000a114084/content.htm
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Raj -
Ajuda com Product/Software Component/Business System
Pessoal
Preciso de uma ajuda de vcs, estou com um ambiente que o BASIS instalou tudo mas o Produto/Software Component SAP NFe 1.0 não está aparecendo no SLD portanto nao consigo fazer a amarracao com o Business System ( que foi criado ).
Vcs sabem me falar a nota ou sp que crie/instale esse produto no meu SLD?
GratoAtualize a versao do SAP CR Content para qq versao superior a 3.10 (recomendacao eh a a ultima versao disponivel, acho q é 6. alguma coisa). Detalhes de como faze-lo: SAP Note 669669.
Abs,
Henrique. -
Idoc not visible in Business system
Hello Experts,
I am trying to configure a scenario where in I am trying to use the IDoc ZCNOSE_PRICAT.PRICAT02.ZPRICAT1.
However, this IDoc is not reflected in the business system in which I am using.
I have already released the extension from the backend SAP system.
Can you please suggest what I am missing such that the extension is visible in the Business system.Hi,
You imported the idoc structure into the ESR, under a specific SWCV.
Make sure that SWCV is linked to your Business System in the SLD.
Kind regards,
Dimitri -
** SPROXY is not working properly in Business System
Friend
My SAP Business System is having Ver 7.00. This system is already connected with our XI server. I face 2 problem when execute SPROXY tcode in this system.
1) System asks username & password for every click.
2) Whatever I have created SWCVs in IR, only SWCV names are displayed there are no objects under that.
I troubleshooted the following things.
I have run the following reports.
1) SPROX_CHECK_HTTP_COMMUNICATION - HTTP Communication is working fine.
2)SPROX_CHECK_IFR_RESPONSE - We get the response.
3)SPROX_CHECK_IFR_CONNECTION - Integration Builder connection is working properly and Data understood.
When I run the 4th report, SPROX_CHECK_IFR_ADDRESS, the data in the SPROXSET table is not shown.
Actually when I checked the data in the SPROXSET table, there is no data in that table.
Friends, how do enter data in SPROXSET table ? How to bring all the objects in SPROX under SWCVs.
Could you kindly help me to solve the above 2 issues ?
Thanks in advance.
Kind Regards,
Jegathees P.Actually
when you run the SPROXY it does 2 things
1. can take the rep information from the table
2. can take the rep info from the exchange profile in the SLD
if you want the sproxy to take the data from the exchange profile do the following:
RFC Dest: should work fine.
LCRSAPAPI
SAPSLDAPI
SLDAPICUST should work fine?
Also in RZ70 TC you should point to the SLD.
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n Khan -
Can there be more than one transport targets for a business system in sld
Hi All,
I have a question about transport targets in sld for sap xi 3.0 sp19.
We have a requirement where a business system needs to have two transport targets.In SLD i see that only one transport target can be assigned. Is there any way to assign more than one transport target to a business system?
I know that there can be more than one source for a business system where more than one different business systems have the same business system as the target.
I am not sure if a business system can have more than one transport target .If yes , what is the way to add more than one ?
Please help .
Thanks,
PadmajaHello,
I know that there can be more than one source for a business system where more than one different business systems have the same business system as the target.
As far as I know, you would have to change the target everytime you will transport it to a different target e.g 3 target systems = 3 times you change the transport target in SLD.
Regards,
Mark -
Authorization error when exporting business system
Hi ,
I am on XI 7.0 spo9.I am trying to transport from dev to qa .
I am able to easily export (login using xisuper ) Technical system.
However while exporting Business system .when it gives me to download a file I get an authorization error .
Kindly helpHi,
Check XISUPER has the below roles in SU01.
SAP_BC_AI_LANDSCAPE_DB_RFC
SAP_SLD_ADMINISTRATOR
SAP_SLD_CONFIGURATOR
SAP_SLD_DEVELOPER
SAP_SLD_ORGANIZER
SAP_SLD_GUEST
add the above roles for XISUPER and get the green color those roles using Tcode : PFCG.
The above roles should be in green color.
Regards,
Venu.
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