Can't Flash Bios on new Neo2-FISR2 . . . Says can't erase.

The subject says it all. I can't update to the latest bios. Every time try, the bios update utility says it can't erase the boot block. The windows program says the same thing. It's a good thing I had a recovery disk and an extra stick of memory lying around or I would be out of luck. The reason I say that is that I have 2 sticks of Corsair 3200LLPT Ultra Low Latency memory. They won't boot when the cmos is cleared. The timings are too tight. I have to manually set them. From then on, no matter what I've set them to, they are 2.5-4-4-8. The motherboard does it's own thing with the memory.
Question: Is my bios bad. It looks like I'm stuck with 1.3 forever . . .
Mark ?(

No. Read all I wrote initially. I've tried everything. Everytime I clear the board I can't boot, nothing unless I take the Corsair out and put in a stick of Samsumg. Contrary to what the manual says, the insert key doesn't work. Clearing the Cmos doesn't do a thing unless I power down again and change memory and manually set timings. I followed the instructions to the letter and booted to dos, then tried to flash from a directory on my C: drive. I also used a Windows Based Utility, Live Bios. Nothing can erase. I only gets to 87%. It tries a few times without success. I then have to pull my computer apart again and go through the above. A couple of times I didn't think she would come back to life.
I think the bios chip may be defective. The thing appears to be soldered in. You can't just change it out.
Mark

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