Changing organizational structure in SRM

Hi All,
We are in production with SRM 4.0 since 1.1.2006 and using R/3 since 2003.
Our company intends to change the organizational structure (delete, merge, move
organizational structure).
We are going to copy our PROD systems (both R/3 and SRM) to other systems to be able to apply and check the changes.
Problems:
1. How is it possible to replace LogsysXXX to that of the new backend for each attribute in the organizational structure, for every organizational unit? The attributes are not inherited data because they differ from one another, and there are many of them within the org structure (for example the attributes plant, purchasing org and group have the LogsysXXX defined as part of the parameter. There are about 600 users with 50 attributes each in all the org structure; therefore a manual process would not be acceptable.
Note: We didnt copy the HR organization to the SRM org structure.
2. Documents which are being processed and at the time of copy client and were already created in SRM (PO, POR, SC), point to the old backend (LogsysXXX).
How do we change this pointer in existing documents to the new backend system?
Best regards,
Rami

Hi Rami,
Please check former post :
Re: Logical system name to be updated while client copy--URGENT HELP REQUIRED
Re: Exact copy of SRM PRD to DEV ? :-(
Kind regards,
Yann

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   Re: Organizational Structure creation using HRMD_ABA
Posted: Aug 21, 2009 6:53 PM    in response to: ASHUTOSH TRIPATHI     Edit          Reply
Hi Ashutosh
I intend to replicate 'S', as described in the note, but nothing has been created with my initial replication of 'O'. As per the note 363187 you are supposed to distribute type 'O' first before moving on to 'S'. Is there anything really fundamental I have missed that you are supposed to do in SRM either before or after the initial set of idocs for type 'O' are brought in?
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