Chief Position in HR

Hi all
I am trying to enhance the extractor 0HRPOSITION_ATTR by adding the head of org unit flag (ie Chief).
In tx PPOSE it shows up as field OMLEADER in a structure.
So I added OMLEADER to an append structure in RSA6
I am now trying to write some ABAP in CMOD to get the data.
Question 1 - Do i need to write ABAP or is there another way.
Question 2 - if the answer to Q1 is yes then in which table is OMLEADER stored. I cant find any mention of it apart from a structure. Maybe its not stored in a field of that name and its actually in a completely different field or fields.
All help most appreciated.
Regards
HKF

Hi
Question 1 - Do i need to write ABAP or is there another way.
For enhancing/Appending the Coding is Must. But always can go for Generic Data Source to avoid complex coding.
Question 2 - if the answer to Q1 is yes then in which table is OMLEADER stored. I cant find any mention of it apart from a structure. Maybe its not stored in a field of that name and its actually in a completely different field or fields.
You need HR Functional Team help as HR is based on INFO TYPES( and also from your posting I am assuming that you are adding a head Node to the hierarchies existing)
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/bb/bdbd35575911d189240000e8323d3a/frameset.htm
Hope it helps and clear

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Kindly let me know to find out the position is a chief position or not?
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Hi
1. tcode PPOME
2. select the position by double click
in the overview position, chief position will be differentiate by symbol a person with red clothes and wearing a hat
in the tab "Basic Data", chief position can be defined if the "Head of own organizational unit" is being ticked/flagged.
Head of Organizational Unit
If you flag this field, the position becomes the chief position of the organizational unit that it belongs to. When this position is displayed again, it is automatically flagged and is automatically the chief position.
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Edited by: Bruce Hull on Jul 24, 2008 5:37 PM
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The requirement is:
A person who is playing the role of a crew leader should be able to fill the time sheet of his crew. This person will not be given the chief position for the org id that he is tagged to. There will be different person who will be tagged to the chief position and will be playing the role of a manager.
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refer all information here
https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=190743879
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/2e/5a5d45d9f24fbdb06be2ff53651c3e/frameset.htm
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Org Unit with more than one Chief Position

Hi,
we have implemented MSS via the portal using a one-to-one relationship between Org Units and Chief Positions, and we would now like to have multiple Chief positions attached to one Org Unit.
As far as I can tell from the SAP documentation, this should be straightforward, but the results we are getting do not seem correct.
I have an Org Unit that has position 1 and position 2 assigned to it with relationship A/B 012 denoting that they are Chief Positions.
User 1 is holder of position 1 and user 2 is holder of position 2.
Both users have the same security roles.
The views used on the portal are configured using the MSS Object and Data Provider functionality, using the standard ORGEH view, evaluation path for root objects SAP_MANG and evaluation path objects SBES. The checkbox 'Excl. Managers' is ticked.
The problem is this - both users can see all the subordinate employees in the Org Unit when they log on to MSS but user 1 can also see user 2 in his list of employees, which is not correct as user 1 and user 2 are both chiefs. User 2 cannot see user 1 in his list of employees, which we would expect.
The only logic we can see for user 1 being able to see user 2's details is that user 1 must be somehow defined as the 'superior' Chief Position, but we have not defined this as far as we know.
Any ideas as to why this is happening for us?
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Hi Fran,
Sounds like you have set up the reporting structures and MSS properly. I do question why two chiefs for one org unit. As you stated, both can see all employees and so both can approve time, give pay increases, etc. without the approval of the other. If this is want you want, then you have set it up properly. Usually, one has to approve the actions of the other, thus, is in a superior relationship. This can be handled by having a higher level new org unit with the higher person as chief and the lower stay as head of the lower org unit which reports to it.
As you have it now, both individuals have the same rights and access. They should both be excluded from iViews if you checked the "Excl. Managers" box. Since, you just recently made one a manager, have you checked for any date dependencies? If the Chief #1 is selecting a view for "Current Year", for example, he would be able to see all persons who reported to him for this year, which includes Chief #2. There are no 'superior chief' designations (except by structure), so without being able to view your configuration, my suggestion is to check all dates for the assignments and relationships vs. dates of the view.

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I want to restrict the number of chief positions in an org unit. One org unit should have only one chief position.
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Dear Minal,
Use T-code-OOZR create an entry with the combination
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In PPOM I am unable to view two chief position for an 'X' org unit. I have checked in other 'Y' org. unit ( having similar attributes) and there two chief positions are displayed. The validity period and other relationship in both the org units are same.
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Sai

Hi Sai -
What is the error or message that you are getting?
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Is it recommended or doable to assign chief position via 012 relationship to the top most custom object Business Unit. Currently the chief position relationships is for Org Units. We would like to keep Chief Position to OU, also if possible to create similar 012 relationship to Business Unit. Since Business Unit will have one-to-many relationship with Regions, need is to identify chief position for the Business Unit for reporting purposes.
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yes, in om structure it will be seen as top most OM object business unit (top most) region --> o.u. --> position --> person. Can I use 012 relationship of position assigned to top most business unit and keep 012 position relationship to OU.?
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                 OU
                   I
                Chief
          _____I_____
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Your drawing (and last message) indicates a relationship between O and "Chief" and between "Chief" and S (Position). As others have mentioned, this is not SAP standard - and to me it doesn't make sense either. The chief position (A12 relationship) and the regular positions (A003 relationship) all belong to the same org.units don't they?
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I need a report in the following format:
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How can I do this?
My PD consultant needs this because he has to store this information.
Points asssured!
Thanks and regards,
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Function modules..u'l get the data for single employee unless u use it in Z report.
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Yes! you can have the following stages;
Submit - Initiator
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Is there a maximum no. etc.
How would this effect reporting in MSS?
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MN

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Chief position for User

Hi Experts,
I am getting error in SWI2_DIAG transaction , There is no chief position for User,
But i checked the organisational structure under User path, already Manager is there & this Manager is flagged as Head of organisational unit, so manager becomes chief in position.
Please give your valuable feedback to resolve the issue.
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Hi ,
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you can sign a position as ' chief position' of a organisational unit. SAP will create a A012 relationship between S and O.
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If I do so what are the consequences for ESS/MSS and other manager-team applications.

HI Donnie,
It is possible to assign One position to multiple Org Units as Head. Ex: HR is parent Org Unit and It has Recruitment and payroll under it. The HR head (whose position is under HR) can head both Recruitment and Payroll.
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