CIN Subcontracting issue

Dear All,
During good receipt against subcontract PO, we do not getting the Excise Invoice tab at Header Data with Refer subcontracting challan filed. Normally in that tab we used enter chalan no & year of 57f4.
Where i need to do the setting to get the above tab.
Thanks in advance.

Hello Dear,
Thanks for reply.
The excise tab is coming but the Refer subcontracting challan this selection is not appering in this tab.
Where do i do the setting to get the above selection.
Thanks,

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What is the relevenace of meovement type group in SAP CIN.
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if i assign movement type 101 to group 0002 is there anything wrong in it
I want to understand there significance and impact

Hi,
The logic is quite simple to understand
Lets start from beginning
Step 1>
First we need to define subcontracting attributes in CIN customizing
Logistics General --> Tax on Goods Movement --> India --> Business Transactions -->Subcontracting -->Subcontracting Attributes
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Mvt Grp Receipt Movement Type Group Receipts.Receipt of materials are grouped for a combination of transaction type and subtransaction type.Which is 0002 in standard SAP
Step 2
And in next step we define the movement types to its group
Logistics General -->Tax on Goods Movement --> India -->Business Transactions --> Subcontracting --> Maintain Movement Type Groups
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Which are your issue movement types ?
122 ,102,541 etc so assign these to Mvt type Grp 0001
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"J85 u2013 Subcontracting without Payment of Excise Duty :Building Block Configuration Guide"
Link : http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/600/Documentation/J85_BB_ConfigGuide_EN_IN.doc
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what exactly is the reconciliation of qualities wrt to the subcontracting scenario with CIN ??
How & wen is it done ? n what are its pre requisites??
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1. (not sure what does 543 mvt type do).
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2. how should i do the reconciliation in case i excpect no more
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Subcontracting : Issue of materials to same PO many times

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Im doing subcontracting process.Im facing 2 problems here im not finding any SAP std to restrict this 2..plz give help how to do..
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And they dont want to do this usinh ME2o,they want olny in MB1B.
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Edited by: ramesh9632 on Jan 7, 2012 6:49 AM
Moderator message:even asking several time the same question does not change SAPs standard design.
You got your answers already:
Edited by: Jürgen L. on Jan 7, 2012 2:20 PM

Hello Mohit,
This is a technical snag in SAP. When you create a Subcon PO, a requirement is generated in MD04, thus showing expected issues. When you do a delivery by ME2O, these requirements are subtracted from existing stock and the remaining stock is shown as available, or picked in delivery. This happens because the Subcon PO and delivery created are not linked to each other in terms of requirement planning. There are some SAP notes, which highlight the issue and possible solution..see note number 458606 and 323991.
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