CIN Subcontracting

Hello,
I am trying to do MIGO in the subcontracting process. On the sub screen that popup for entering challan number. I have entered the challan number, the error message says, the material on the goods receipt is different then the one on the challan
In out Case i created a PO for material A, I did a goods movement for material B to send it to Vendor. then receiving back as A, but i ge the above message. Can any one help pleaseeeee
Thanks
SK

Hi,
Please Follow The below Process.
Maintain Master data for Semifinished and Components in J1ID, Mark component as SUB contracting relevant.
01. Create Purchase Order ( sub contracting )
02. Post Transfer posting through MB1B with reference PO or Directly. with Movement type " 541 "
03. J1IF01 - Create Sub contracting challan ( 57 F (4) ) by referencing the Material document number of 542
04. Send the materials to vendor.
05. When u receive the material from vendor , Post the good receipt with reference to Purchase Order , In excise tab at header select Sub contracting challan , click on Pencil and enter the challan Numbers received against that GR.
06.With the above action challan status will change to Fully assigned or Assigned ( if any quantity is pending)
07.J1IFQ - Reconcile Quantity : Reconcile quantity of the challan
08.J1IF13 - Complete/ Reverse/ Recredit : Complete the challan.
If the Material is not received with in 180 days then U have to reverse duty through step number 08. after receiving the material you can recredit the same.
Hope this clarifies,
Thanks & Regards,
Sridhar.G

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Movement type group in CIN subcontracting

hi
What is the relevenace of meovement type group in SAP CIN.
there are two movement type group 0001 & 0002 .......what is the relevance of these groups in subcontracting and if a movement type is not assigned with these groups how does it impact in system. On which basis a movement type is assigned to them.
if i assign movement type 101 to group 0002 is there anything wrong in it
I want to understand there significance and impact

Hi,
The logic is quite simple to understand
Lets start from beginning
Step 1>
First we need to define subcontracting attributes in CIN customizing
Logistics General --> Tax on Goods Movement --> India --> Business Transactions -->Subcontracting -->Subcontracting Attributes
Here we maintain entries for your Excise group , Excise TT (57FC) ,Sub Transaction Type (01)
Now here you will find 2 fields
Mvt Grp Issues i.e Movement Type group for Issue.The movement types relevant for issue of materials are grouped for a combination of transaction type and subtransaction type.Which is 0001 in standard SAP
Mvt Grp Receipt Movement Type Group Receipts.Receipt of materials are grouped for a combination of transaction type and subtransaction type.Which is 0002 in standard SAP
Step 2
And in next step we define the movement types to its group
Logistics General -->Tax on Goods Movement --> India -->Business Transactions --> Subcontracting --> Maintain Movement Type Groups
Now just think Logically forget CIN
Which are your receipt movement types ?
101,542 etc so assign these to Mvt type Grp 0002
Which are your issue movement types ?
122 ,102,541 etc so assign these to Mvt type Grp 0001
Now detailed explanation from SAP just find the document
"J85 u2013 Subcontracting without Payment of Excise Duty :Building Block Configuration Guide"
Link : http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/600/Documentation/J85_BB_ConfigGuide_EN_IN.doc
Also check http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/600/html/J85_EN_IN.htm for process details

What is Reconciliation of Quantities ?? (CIN Subcontracting )

Hello CIN experts ,
what exactly is the reconciliation of qualities wrt to the subcontracting scenario with CIN ??
How & wen is it done ? n what are its pre requisites??
Pls enlighten
Regards
Anis

HI,
1. (not sure what does 543 mvt type do).
Ans. 543 movemnt type take care of the consumption of the raw material provided to s/c VENDOR.
2. how should i do the reconciliation in case i excpect no more
delivery & the vendor returns me the balance 45KG ROH ????????
Ans. For vendor returns you can go for movement type 542 for the balance 5 kg in trax MB1B.
and do reconciliation for the actually used 45 kg by the vendor in trax J1IFQ.
Do check the delivery complete indicator in change PO ME22N.
3. If I recieve the entire 100 Nos FG , but only 45 KG ROH is consumed & balance 5 KG ROH is
returned . How do i do renciliation??????
Ans. You do the GR for FG for 100 QTY. consume 45 kg by 543 movement type do 542 for the balance 5 qty in trax MB1B before GR.
Do reconciliation for 45 kg in trasaction J1IFQ.
4. If i recieve entire 100 Nos FG & entire 50 KG ROH issued to vendor is consumed How do i
reconcile ?????
Ans. This one is simple, do GR for 100 Nos for FG using 101, consume 50 kgs for ROH using 543, Reconcile the qty in J1IFQ the whole 50 kG.
5. If i recieve 100 Nos FG & 50 KG ROH is consumed , but the vendor also returns 10 KG scrap (
different material code) , how do i fit in the extra scrap that i recieved instead of ROH ????
Ans. Follow the above method, for scrap you recvd from S/C there is an diffrent movmnt type 551 "o"
Note: In all the above mentioned scenarios, dont forget to complete the Challan using trax J1IF13.
Regards,
Sujoy

CIN-Subcontracting Challan

Hi experts,
While making subcontracting challan in J!IF01 system gives me error message as:-
"Excise modvat accounts not defined for 57FC transaction and 5C excise group
Message no. 8I402"
I already maintained accounts for ETT 57FC and suntransaction type but it still gives me this error message.
Please help.
Points will be rewarded for the help.
regards,
rb

first check Subcontracting attratubuts
in Business tran-- subcontracting -- sub contrsc attr
check for ur excise group 5c what is subtransaction type
then go to accounts for ETT 57FC and that subtransaction generally 01 give all the gl accounts
also maintain it for 57NR subtran type
and also check if u have maintain
Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction
57FC          Credit     PLA BED account
57FC          Credit     RG 23 BED account
57FC          Debit     CENVAT clearing account etc
hope this will help
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CIN Subcontracting issue

Dear All,
During good receipt against subcontract PO, we do not getting the Excise Invoice tab at Header Data with Refer subcontracting challan filed. Normally in that tab we used enter chalan no & year of 57f4.
Where i need to do the setting to get the above tab.
Thanks in advance.

Hello Dear,
Thanks for reply.
The excise tab is coming but the Refer subcontracting challan this selection is not appering in this tab.
Where do i do the setting to get the above selection.
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Subcontracting CIN Config

Hi Gurus....
I did all setting of CIN subcontracting but BED SED values are not coming in Subcontracting challan also print option is not coming in challan.
If any one have any doct related to this problem pl mail me on [email protected]
Pl help me gurus..
Thanks in advance,
Ravi

Hi
The following process need to be followed.
01. Create the Third party P.O with delivery address of SC vendor and the material will be delivered directly to the sub-con vendor by the Original Manufacture vendor.
02. Do a GR (Mvt type 101)with ref to the OEM vendor's paper information.(If quality is activated then go with the quality UD process and all)
03. Do a incoming Excise invoice either in MIGO or in J1IEX transaction.
04.Create the sub-con P.O to sub-con vendor for supply of the FG item.
05. Do a Transfer Posting with Mvt type 541. No physical movement will be there. only virtual.
06. Create a sub-con challan 57F(C) wth jFI01
07. Print the Sub-con challan
08.Once the operation completed by the sub-con vendor material will be reced with MVT type 101. with ref to the sub-con P.O
09.Do a reconcile of the sub-con challan
10.All material doc and FI doc will be completed.
11. Complete the sub-con challan if the full qty is recd against the sub-con challan qty.-
This is the standard SAP recommended process
Thanks
Ganesh

Referance of subcontracting challan at time of GR

Hi Experts ,
i m not getting excise tab for refering subcontracting challan
Receiving material is semifinish material - all details r maintained in j1id
child material is raw material -all details maintained in jild
j1id details r -
plant -chap combination , cenvat determination , accessible value for both material
in cenvat dete input raw and output semifinish maintained
All Cin -subcontracting config is also done - subcontracting attributes in bussiness transactions and movement type groups r maintained
Now problem is that if i maintain Receiving material ( which is semifinish ) as RAw material in J1id(chapid-material combination ) then only i m getting excise tab in which there is refering subcontracting challan option available ..................but if i maintain Semifinish material as a RG1 in J1id then i dont get excise tab ............it is wrong ............how i can maintain semifinish material as a raw in J1id .it will create problem
so my requirement is although if i m maintaining semifinish material as a RG1 in J1id Which is i m going to receive from subcontractor , subcontracting tab should appear while making GR . Then only i will be able to reconsile the challan after making GR .
Please help me
Regards
Chandan

Please use the exit to define the way you want the system to consider Scrap in the subcontracting process.
1084323 USER-EXIT to update challan status if scrap is calculated
1103537 Correction to note 1084323 for ECC 600 Release
Please note the user exit will be accessed only if you were to write a code for it and you assigned/made 545 O as relevant to subcontracting
subcontracting scrap will work if the scrap percentage is defined for the component which is sent to the job worker. If you have a completely new material for scrap then this is not going to work as the system will never be able to assign the qty (mismatch of material code between the scrap material & the challan material).

J1IF01 Subcontracting Err

D/ Friends,
Iu2019m creating Subcontracting Challan with reference to material document created with MB1B, mov typ 541. But on doing J1IF01, sys is giving err: u201CPlease specify the number of line items for the challans. Message no. 8I802u201D. Why this err is coming & how to resolve this err?
Pls advice.
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Vendor reconcilation in case of MB04

Dear gurus ,
My issue is Related to CIN (subcontracting) . There is a Semi-finish material AAA which is made of 2 Pcs of material BBB . Material BBB send to subcontractor to get material A .
Suppose we have given an Subcontracting order to create 100 Pcs of material AAA , and send 200 Pcs of material B to vendor (which is child part in BOM) by movement type 541.
Now we have received material AAA from vendor by 101 (or 103 and then 105). Here user did a mistake, In MIGO did not selected BBB part & selected only AAA thatu2019s why GR done for AAA with 101/105 BUT BBB part is not consumed by 553 Movement.
Now user is doing its consumption by 553 , with the help of T. code MB04 .
Here my Question is that Will he able to do Subcontracting reconciliation ( J1IFQ ) in this case , if yes then please tell me How ?
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Ashutosh

Dear gurus ,
i am again posting my problem after doing correction.. please reply..
My issue is Related to CIN (subcontracting) . There is a Semi-finish material AAA which is made of 2 Pcs of material BBB . Material BBB send to subcontractor to get material A .
Suppose we have given an Subcontracting order to create 100 Pcs of material AAA , and send 200 Pcs of material B to vendor (which is child part in BOM) by movement type 541.
Now we have received material AAA from vendor by 101 (or 103 and then 105). Here user did a mistake, In MIGO did not selected BBB part & selected only AAA thatu2019s why GR done for AAA with 101/105 BUT BBB part is not consumed by 543 Movement.
Now user is doing its consumption by 543 , with the help of T. code MB04 .
Here my Question is that Will he able to do Subcontracting reconciliation ( J1IFQ ) in this case , if yes then please tell me How ?
Regards,
Ashutosh

Subcontracting with CIN

Hi,
Wanted subcontracting configuration with CIN.
Please help

Hi,
Subcontracting Process
Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
- Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
- Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
- Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
- Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and autoconsumption of components with 543 movement}
- Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
- Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
- Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
- Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
- Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
- Creation of Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS)
- Capture Excise Invoice at the time of GR of Finished Goods w.r.t. Subcontracting PO (MIGO)
- Post Excise Invoice (J1IEX)
Master Data
- MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
- XK01 - Vendor Master (Subcontractor)
- CS01 - BOM for FG
- ME11 - Purchase Inforecord for Subcontracting
Note: - Excise Transactions need to be performed only if it is applicable.
Hi,
Refer link;
[Subcontracting Process w/o Payment of Excise Duty|http://help.sap.com/bestpractices/BBLibrary/Documentation/J85_BPP_V2_EN_IN.doc]
Subcontracting Process
Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
- Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
- Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
- Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
- Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and autoconsumption of components with 543 movement}
- Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
- Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
- Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Master Data
- MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
- XK01 - Vendor Master (Subcontractor)
- CS01 - BOM for FG
- ME11 - Purchase Inforecord for Subcontracting
Configuration: -
- Go to SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction > Here maintain as following;
ETT Subtrn Typ DC ind Acct name
57FC            CR     PLABED
57FC            CR     RG23BED
57FC            CR     RG23ECS
57FC            DR     CLEAR
57FC 01         CR     PLABED
57FC 01         CR     RG23AT1
57FC 01         CR     RG23BED
57FC 01         CR     RG23ECS
57FC 01         DR     CLEAR
57NR            CR     CLEAR
57NR            CR     PLABED
57NR            CR     RG23BED
57NR            CR     RG23ECS
57NR            DR     REVERS
57NR 01         CR     CLEAR
57NR 01         CR     PLABED
57NR 01         CR     RG23BED
57NR 01         CR     RG23ECS
57NR 01         DR     REVERS
- And then go to SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction > Here do Account Determination for the above combination and Excise Group
Apart from above also do following configuration for Subcontracting;
- SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Subcontracting Attributes
Here maintain following;
Excise Group         XX
Excise TT            57FC
Subtransaction Type 01
Subtran Type Text   57FC CHALLAN
Subc. Period        180
Rate-subcontracting
Mvt Grp Issues      0001
Mvt Grp Receipt     0002
Filter Non exise
EI Items            10
No. range no.       01
***. Val. /Exc Inv
Subcon Output Type J1IF
- SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups
Here maintain following
MVT. Grp. MvT S
0001      101 O
0001      541 O
0002      542
0002      542 O
0002      543 O
- J1I9 - maintain No range for object "J_1I57FC" for series group

Thirdparty subcontracting in cin

hiiiiiiiiiiiii sap guru's
can any budy give me ""THIRD PARTY SUBCONTRACTING cin configuration in IMG & senario
regard's
sandeep

Hi,
You hae to create PO with Item Category "L" with the Item to be supplied by the Sub con vendor, Qty will be supplied and the rate he charges for that.
If this item is a BOM item it will have child parts, You have to send this child parts to gthe sub con vendor.
Using Tcode ME2O or MB1B ( transfer Posting ) material ( child utems ) will be issued to the sub con vendor.
If Tcode ME2O is used Movement type 541 happens automatically in the backgorund. If Tcode MB1B is used you have to give Movement type 541.
After issuing the material you have to create 57F4 chellan ( using tcode J1IF ) for the issued material. Refernec document is the Material document no geenrated when you issued the material. With the same Tcode you create / release ( for accounts )/ Print the document
When Subcon vendor retruns the PO Item , you haveto do MIGO duing the process seelc the Excise Tab in that select capture the chellan.
You can reconcile the 57f4 cehllan using Tcode J1IFQ.
To close the completed chellan use Tcode J1IF13
Regards
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Subcontracting In CIN

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Can anyone guide me in doing subcontracting with CIN active. What are the steps? Which challan is used and excise registers to be updated? I ve done incoming invoice process for raw materials and RG23A is updating.
regards
B Shar

Hi,
You hae to create PO with Item Category "L" with the Item to be supplied by the Sub con vendor, Qty will be supplied and the rate he charges for that.
If this item is a BOM item it will have child parts, You have to send this child parts to gthe sub con vendor.
Using Tcode ME2O or MB1B ( transfer Posting ) material ( child utems ) will be issued to the sub con vendor.
If Tcode ME2O is used Movement type 541 happens automatically in the backgorund. If Tcode MB1B is used you have to give Movement type 541.
After issuing the material you have to create 57F4 chellan ( using tcode J1IF ) for the issued material. Refernec document is the Material document no geenrated when you issued the material. With the same Tcode you create / release ( for accounts )/ Print the document
When Subcon vendor retruns the PO Item , you haveto do MIGO duing the process seelc the Excise Tab in that select capture the chellan.
You can reconcile the 57f4 cehllan using Tcode J1IFQ.
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Subcontracting config for CIN

Hello Experts,
     We are implementing CIN.The scenario is as below:
                               1. Raw material ordered from vendor & delivered directly at Subcontractor's location
                               2. Subcontracting PO is created with BOM for FG
                               3. When vendor sends FG, GR is posted into the system & backflushing is done for consumption of raw material
                        Now my query is, from CIN point of view,
                              1. When Subcontracting challan is created, which reference document must be used, as goods are directly delivered at vendor's location, transfer posting with 541 cannot be used
                              2. Is it mandatory to do transfer posting of goods with 541?
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Hi
   The following process need to be followed.
01. Create the Third party P.O with delivery address of SC vendor and the material will be delivered directly to the sub-con vendor by the Original Manufacture vendor.
02. Do a GR (Mvt type 101)with ref to the OEM vendor's paper information.(If quality is activated then go with the quality UD process and all)
03. Do a incoming Excise invoice either in MIGO or in J1IEX transaction.
04.Create the sub-con P.O to sub-con vendor for supply of the FG item.
05. Do a Transfer Posting with Mvt type 541. No physical movement will be there. only virtual.
06. Create a sub-con challan 57F(C) wth jFI01
07. Print the Sub-con challan
08.Once the operation completed by the sub-con vendor material will be reced with MVT type 101. with ref to the sub-con P.O
09.Do a reconcile of the sub-con challan
10.All material doc and FI doc will be completed.
11. Complete the sub-con challan if the full qty is recd against the sub-con challan qty.-
This is the standard SAP recommended process
Thanks
Ganesh

Subcontracting CIN version

Hi everybody,
I am using country India (CIN) version of SAP. Here is an problem for subcontracting.
User is sending some material to subcontractor for processing some predefined amount of output material. For an example 6 kg of material is sent to manufacture 127 items. Subcontractor produces only 124 items out of 6 kg of materials.
User does not want to charge vendor for over consumption and accepts the scenario.
How to take care of such scenario.in SAP ? Moreover, How to reconcile 57F4 challans for such scenarios?

Hi,
I am not sure of the CIN implications (I work in the UK) but within MIGO the normal situation would be to change the qty of the components within MIGO (expand the lines) to reflect the actual amount consumed by the subcontractor. This can be a higher figure if the stock is available in the subcontractor.
Steve B

Cin settings for subcontracting

hi
we want to maintain 57f4 challan in subcontracting process using cin.can any one please tell me the basic settings for this?
regards
rahul

tax on goods movement == india == Basic transaction == Subcontracting == Subcontracting Attributes
imp is sub transacting tyoe 01
subs period 180
grp issue is 0001
recipt 0002
no range no 01
u can coppy it same for sap std
tax on goods movement == india == Basic transaction == Subcontracting == Maintain Movement Type Groups
u will have to mainatain the movement types of 0001 and 0002
u will have to maintaing number range for
j_1i57Fc object for ur series group and for 01 number
and maintaing account detremination for 01 subtransaction type
for ETT
57CM     57F CHALLAN COMPLETION
57FC     57F CHALLAN CAPTURE/CHANGE
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