CK11N & CK40N

Dear Experts,
What is the difference between CK11N & CK40N.
CK11N - Specific to Material
CK40N - Overall on monthly basis.
Is it right?
If we can run for a particular material CK11N, we need to run Mark & Release transactions. The next step is WIP.
Can we view the WIP in KKAX on Test Run? after completing the above transactions.
Could any one give me some steps from CK11N to Month End Clsoing process.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
SS

Hi,
CK11N is for a specific material whereas CK40N is for a group of materials which are included in the costing run.
In addition with CK11N you explicitely say, that you want to create a cost estimate with quantity structure (that is what this transaction is for) and therefore, the flag in material master 'With Qty Structure' on view Costing 1 doesn't need to be considered.
This is not generally true for the costing run where this flag is considered.
Also consider that in ck40n you can skip structure explosion whereas in ck11n you can't.
Once the cost estimate is created you will post various costs on the production order via activity confirmation, goods issue of raw material etc. If required overhead calculation will be performed. Then WIP / variance calculation and finally the production order will be settled.
regards
Waman

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I was waiting for your reply.
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