Clients distributor or dealer location as functional location

Dear All,
We are implementing PM/CS module in Ice Cream Mfg. Co. Here my client purchases deep freezer and send to various distributor locations in all over India by doing some commercial agreement. In this up to the one year deep freezer is asset of my client then after one year it is asset of distributor.
Kindly go through following points & how this can be mapped in SAP PM/CS module.
1) After purchasing of deep freezer my client (Ice cream mfg. co.) send this to various distributors. They give deep freezer to distributor for one year which on Free of Cost basis. In that some maintenance is taken place, which is carried out by client (Ice cream mfg. co.) service technician. This maintenance is also carried on free of cost basis. Once one year gets completed they sell out to distributor.
So that becomes a distributoru2019s asset.
2) After one year what ever maintenance is taken place which is reported to client (Ice cream mfg. co.) then client sends technician to distributor location. He carries maintenance & charged for the same. Which may include some material cost or spares cost.
3) In this scenario can I use functional location category as u201CS - Customer system u2013 standardu201D for creating functional location. Also confirm, can I create all Distributor or Dealer location will be as functional location.
4) Whatever deep freezer is installed at distributor location, those deep freezer can I create as Equipment.
Thanks & Regards,
Sandeep Theurkar

Sandeep,
The following is the rough mapping of your requirement.
You = Ice Cream Mfg Co.,
Customer = Distributor
Equipment = Freezer
4) Whatever deep freezer is installed at distributor location, those deep freezer can I create as Equipment.
Yes, every Freezer is an Equipment
3) In this scenario can I use functional location category as u201CS - Customer system u2013 standardu201D for creating functional location. Also confirm, can I create all Distributor or Dealer location will be as functional location.
Yes, you can use Customer site as Functional location
1) After purchasing of deep freezer my client (Ice cream mfg. co.) send this to various distributors. They give deep freezer to distributor for one year which on Free of Cost basis. In that some maintenance is taken place, which is carried out by client (Ice cream mfg. co.) service technician. This maintenance is also carried on free of cost basis. Once one year gets completed they sell out to distributor.
So that becomes a distributoru2019s asset.
1a.You may use customer consignment process to maintain the Eqiupment in your stock.
1b.Create another sales order and deliver to the distributor from Consignment Stock
Service and Maintenance would be standard process
2) After one year what ever maintenance is taken place which is reported to client (Ice cream mfg. co.) then client sends technician to distributor location. He carries maintenance & charged for the same. Which may include some material cost or spares cost.
Service and Maintenance would be standard process. You may also execute a Service contract between you and Distributor for servicing and maintenance
Babu

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