Co product indicator

Dear all,
I have a material xxxx as a co product... In CS03,THis material is having 3 comonents .THe line item numbers are 0010,0020,0030.
But when i create prod order for this material xxxx, in the production order BOM another line item 0000 is appearing automatically.
and that line item 0000 is the header material xxxx itself.PLease tell me how come this happen.
I want to disable the coproduct indicator for that material...in MRP2 i have disabled the indicator..But even after that,If i create rder in CO01,there is no change in the production order BOM
please help me out

HI
You left your previous thread unanswered.
For this you have to do Read PP master data after deleting the co product indicator in MM
Check and revert
Regards
Anupam Sharma

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Hi
Steps for the coproduct feature in SAP are as follows :
1. Create Material Masters for the main product and Coproduct. Select the Indicatore co-product for the co-product material. In MRP 2 View click the Joint Production Tab and maintain the Approtionment Structure i.e. One Main product is equal to X coproducts.
2. Create the BOM for the Main product and maintain the Co-product as an Item with negative quantity and click the Coproduct check box in item detail manually. Then only this will be flowing to Production order .
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1. The BOM of XXXX material have the next components:
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The issue was solved.
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Hi!
In the BOM of the material of CO Product tick on CO-Product indicator. While entering quantity in BOM for this CO - Product enter it as negative quantity.
Also tick on CO-Product indicator in Material Master in MRP-2 View. Also You should enter the item as a stock item.
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Co-Product

Hi friends
My main product is say X. From this co-product is generating say Y. As per your experience for which material we have to set co-product indicator .
and wat about costs. for which matieral we have to set approtionement structure. Pl explain indetail including costing related settings also ie., appronement structure settings.
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Hi,
1. For Coproduct & also in main material make tick mark in MRP2 view as a coproduct.
2. Assign the coproduct as a line item in the BOM with negative sign.
3. In BOM, indicate coproduct indicator in item detail screen.
4. In main material of MRP2 view or in costing view assign Joint production. In this give Equalance no. for costing purpose.
5. Costing setting will be done by CO person. You have to assign that in the material master of main material.
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LLC generation with a "recursiveness allowed" indicator in BOM

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We have few products, that have indicator "recursiveness allowed" in the material BOM.
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Hi Mikhail,
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Rajesha Vittal

in HELP.SAP.COM is the answer.
Product Cost Collector
Definition
Cost object in Product Cost by Period that collects the periodic actual costs incurred in the production of a material. When you use a product cost collector, the product is the main cost object.
Use
Product cost collectors are independent of the production type. This means that you can collect actual costs on product cost collectors in the following production environments:
In order-related production (that is, when you are using production orders) when you want to analyze the costs by period rather than by lot
In process manufacturing (that is, when you are using process orders) when you want to analyze the costs by period rather than by lot
Repetitive manufacturing
In repetitive manufacturing you always use product cost collectors as cost objects.
Product cost collectors are available from Release 4.5A onwards. In earlier releases, the costs of repetitive manufacturing materials were collected on production cost collectors. From Release 4.5A onwards, production cost collectors are converted into product cost collectors. For information on the conversion process, see Converting Production Cost Collectors into Product Cost Collectors.
Order splits for production orders
When you split production orders, the costs for the parent order and child order are allocated to the same product cost collector.
See also: Order Splits in Cost Object Controlling
Constraints
Product cost collectors cannot be used for the following objects and production environments:
Manufacturing orders that settle to a sales order item if you are using a nonvaluated sales order stock in sales-order-related production
Sales-order-related production with a valuated sales order stock, except in repetitive manufacturing environments
Engineer-to-order environments
Manufacturing orders that are part of a collective order
Joint production
Joint production is a production process that yields two or more products in a single production run. In the Product Cost Controlling component (CO-PC), there are a number of special processing requirements in joint production environments regarding Product Cost Planning (CO-PC-PCP) and Cost Object Controlling (CO-PC-OBJ).
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Integration
In joint production, the system normally accesses master data of Production Planning for the Process Industries (PP-PI) such as the master recipe and materials list, or master data of Production Planning (PP) . To distribute the planned and actual costs to the co-products, the system uses the apportionment structure that can be specified the material master record or in the manufacturing order itself.
Terminology
Co-product
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Fixed-price co-product
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Primary product
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Process material
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By-product
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You do not set the Co-product indicator in the MRP view or costing view of the master records of by-products.
Intra material
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Intra materials have material type INTR.
Circulating material
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Co-product PDS generation

Dear PP/DS Experts,
When transferring PDS form ERP to APO, co-product PDSs are generated automatically in APO even though the production versions of co-product do not exist.
Is this normal case ? How can I control this, I mean I want to exclude the generation of co-product PDS.
Please enlighten me for this question.
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Lee, Seung Won

Hi Lee,
PDS gets generated from Bom data. If there is co-product
indicator maintained in the BOM.(Select the material in the
bom and press F7 to get the coproduct indicator). The
same will also be defined in Material master of R/3 under
MRP2 view. From this, the coproduct values are
populated to APO into PDS data
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Co product Clarification

Dear all,
I have a material xxxx as a co product... In CS03,THis material is having 3 comonents .THe line item numbers are 0010,0020,0030.
But when i create prod order for this material xxxx, in the production order BOM another line item 0000 is appearing automatically.
and that line item 0000 is the header material xxxx itself.PLease tell me how come this happen.
Please reply..
points for sure

HI
When you create this material XXXX as Co product then you cant make production order for it you have to make it with the header material during the production of which this material XXXX is produced.for this you have to maintain this material XXXX in the BOM of header material with co product indicator on and also in MM of this material XXXX.
while confirmation of header material when you confirm the operation to which this XXXX is assigned GR will be done
correct me if i am wrong
Regards
Anupam Sharma

Company Code - Productive

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We have many company codes for which in FA Global Settings, Company Code is productive indicator is not selected.
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Is there any negative effect by activating this?
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As such there is no retrospective impact of setting company code to productive. It will imply that data can't be deleted from that point onwards.
Hence, you can do the same safely without any impact on old data in ur system.
If the answer satisfy ur query, please assign award points.
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Required Overlapping VS Continuos Flow Production

Hi SAP Experts,
I have a few questions regarding the overlapping indicator in routing as below:
1. What is the difference between "Required Overlapping" & "Continous Flow Production" indicator in routing? I have tested with both indicator but still cannot see the logic behind on how APO scheduled the orders based on these indicators.
2. Is it a must to maintain both "overlap time" & "Send ahead quantity" in the routing if I select either "Required Overlapping" or "Continous Flow Production"? Or, I can just maintain either of them?
3. If my planned order's quantity is less than the send ahead quantity set in the routing, there will be a gap between 0010 Produce End Time with 0020 Setup Start Time. Is this a APO standard behavior?
4. Refer to question (2), if the answer is yes, is there any way so that the APO will schedule the operation back to back if the planned order quantity is less than the send ahead quantity without any gap in between?
Thanks.
Regards,
Hooi Chia

Hi Santosh.A,
Yes, overlaps in routing is integrated with APO. The changes on overlap indicator in ECC routing is reflecting in APO PDS. I have tested the overlap scenarios for both "Required Overlapping" & "Continous Production Flow" and both are working in APO. But, I do not understand the difference of these 2 indicator. Moreover, there is a gap between my 1st operation Produce End Time & 2nd operation setup start time if my order quantity is less than the send ahead quantity set in the routing.
Please help to clear my doubts.
Below are the examples of scheduling result for overlapping, overlapping set at operation 0010:
1.
Overlapping: Required Overlapping
Min Send Ahead Qty: 7650m
Min Overlap Time: -
Order Qty: 500m
Result:
0010S: 03/01/2011 10:28:54 to 03/01/2011 15:06:59
0010P: 03/01/2011 15:06:59 to 03/01/2011 16:51:28
0020S: 04/01/2011 11:36:52 to 04/01/2011 15:06:52
0020P: 04/01/2011 15:06:52 to 04/01/2011 15:48:47
2.
Overlapping: Required Overlapping
Min Send Ahead Qty: 7650m
Min Overlap Time: -
Order Qty: 10,000m
Result:
0010S: 03/01/2011 10:45:19 to 03/01/2011 15:23:24
0010P: 03/01/2011 15:23:24 to 05/01/2011 02:03:26
0020S: 04/01/2011 19:16:20 to 04/01/2011 22:46:20
0020P: 04/01/2011 22:46:20 to 05/01/2011 12:40:59
3.
Overlapping: Continous Flow Production
Min Send Ahead Qty: 7650m
Min Overlap Time: -
Order Qty: 500m
Result:
0010S: 03/01/2011 14:25:55 to 03/01/2011 19:04:00
0010P: 03/01/2011 19:04:00 to 03/01/2011 20:48:29
0020S: 04/01/2011 15:33:53 to 04/01/2011 19:03:53
0020P: 04/01/2011 19:03:53 to 04/01/2011 20:38:34
4.
Overlapping: Continous Flow Production
Min Send Ahead Qty: 7650m
Min Overlap Time: -
Order Qty: 10,000m
Result:
0010S: 03/01/2011 14:25:55 to 03/01/2011 19:04:00
0010P: 03/01/2011 19:04:00 to 05/01/2011 05:44:02
0020S: 04/01/2011 15:33:53 to 04/01/2011 19:03:53
0020P: 04/01/2011 19:03:53 to 06/01/2011 02:28:54
Thanks.
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Hooi Chia

Byproducts from Production process

Hi all,
Any suggestions how I can handle by-products being produced in the Production process?
The scenario is...
BOM
Produced Item: 1(unit) X P1 - 1000lt Drum of Liquid Syrup
By-product Item: 2.5(kg) X B1 - Waste Metal
Comp1: C1 = 5 Unit (a 200lt Drum Liquid Ingredient)
Comp2: C2 = 1 Unit (a 1000lt Drum Packaging Material)
So as the above goes, To Produce 1 X P1, I need 5 x Drum of 200lt Ingredient and 1 X Packaging Drum. In the production process, we get waste material B1 which is the packaging material of our C1 component and this B1 waste material is stocked and is sold to recycle companies.
How do we incorporate this in our BOM? Can SBO handle By-products?
Thanks

Hi Noor
Your explanation for my questions were sufficient.
SBO addressing the co-products concept.
Try out following steps and let me know results.
<u>Material Masters Required</u>.
1. Main Product - 1000lt Pkd. Syrup
   While creating above material master "tick" the
   co- product indicator in MRP-2 Procurement Tab.
2. 200lt Pkd. Ingradient. Maintain all views as required.
3. Drum Empty 200lt - "tick" the co-product indicator in
   MRP-2 view.
4. Empty drum 1000lt maintain all views as required.
<u>BOM Design</u>
1. Header - 1000lt. Pkd Syrub
2. Bom Items. Other than Header materials.
    *Important Note: For Item Drum Empty - Qty should
     be -ve. ie. as per your input give 5-.
    select this item and click "detail" icon which will
    take you details of above item. There in Basic tab,
    General Data "tick" co-product indicator. SAVE BOM.
Now Run MRP after maintaining all master data.
hope above steps will help you to start.
Rest in next.
Best Regds
Poongunran

Co product process related queries..

Dear Experts,
Request you to guide me on the below process.
Co product process and costing
Material (A) is consumed under production process and SFG1 (60%)and SFG 2 (40%) are produced. Need to set co product for the same.
1) Where i will set co product indicator in SFG1 or SFG2.
2) If both are co product then where is my main material.nee to define one main product along with two co products or i can produce two co product without main products.
3) Where i will set portionment structure or source structure.
4) How to define equivalence no.
5) What tcode or process need to be done in order to distribute cost in 60 and 40 %.
Request you to guide me the complete process flow along with costing process.
your help will be highly appreciated.
regards
RR

Dear Ajay,
Thanks for your advice
I have ticked co product indicator in SFG1(Main Product) and SFG2 (CO product).
I have bom of SFG1 inside that SFG2 is a component as Co product with - ve QTY
I have ticked co product and assigned source structure in SFG1.
Inside source structure There are 3 assignement seperatly for SG1 and SFG2 based on material cost ,production cost and others ratio is 60 for main and 40 for co product for all assignments.
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Confirming an order for a by product

Am having a problem, If l confirm an order without a by-product an inspection lot is generated automatically and its post to inspection stock for Quality inspection, but the moment l try to confirm an order of the same product with a by-product it is posted to unrestricted-use stock but the material have 04 as its inspection lot origins in the material master. What can l do to post to inspection stock for this material with and without by-product.

In SAP standard there is no problem when an order is confirmed with or without co-product.
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I would suggest you check the material master and production order.
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