Color shifting in InDesign CS (3.01)

hi there-
I still have the original CS suite. I create publications in which i place all sorts of files from different sources into the inDesign file. i have some issues where InD shifts the colors slightly. Currently the example is a PDF file the client has sent in the ad which has a certain color, when i place the ad in InD and save it again as a PDF the color is quite different! (why??)
I checked it by opening both PDF's in PhotoShop and they are off quite a lot. I converting the original PDF into a Tiff, but it still doesn't hold it's color.
Usually it isn't enough to worry about but in this case it is. what color settings am i supposed to have? I have all my color settings turned off, thinking that if the program is not managing the color then the color imported is the color, and it doesn't change anything, obviously that was wrong... so what should i have it set to?
I have noticed this before in Photoshop, where i have a file that black should be black and when i bring it into photoshop it changes it to dark grey.
thanks in advance!
ryan

>Subsequently that item may be re-interpreted in a different color space because the original profile is gone.
But the numbers are less likely to change, which is the OP's problem.
When you choose the Off policy the InDesign file is not assigned a profile when it is created and the embedded profiles of placed items are ignored (not discarded). In this case both the ID file and its placed files are color managed with the current CMYK working space. With the policy set to Off the only way you would get a change in CMYK numbers is if you chose something other than Document CMYK as the destination on export or output.
Preserve Numbers assigns a profile to the ID doc but ignores incoming profiles. If you want a profile to travel with the ID doc, but don't want placed files with conflicting profiles to be converted to new CMYK numbers (their previews would change not the numbers), then choose Preserve.
If you receive files to place from other sources and they have embedded profiles that don't match you ID doc's assigned profile, then you WILL get number changes if the policy is set to Preserve.
In any case, what is new to IDCS3 is that the policy is set when the doc is created, so changing policies later has no effect on that particular document.

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