Concept of Value, Task & Template Roles

Hello,
Can anyone explain the concept of value roles, task roles & Template roles in SAP? I have heard about single, composite, derived roles in sap.
Also, can there be a transaction in derived roles independent of the parent role? i mean that a transaction that i could add to derived role only in addition to the transaction that derived role with inherit from the master role. if yes, what will be its affect on auth. objects etc..
Kind Regards, Ben

Hi
Single, composite & derived roles are technical role types. Value, task & template are descriptions of how roles can be used and can often have different meanings. The most common ones are:
Task: A single role (or could be a derived role) that represents a small piece of functionality such as create PO, display SO, create journal, change material etc.
Template: Is sometimes used to describe a parent role or if derived functionality is not used, the transactional template for variants to be created that have different org level and / or field level restrictions. It is also used for composite roles where you have the "shape" of the composite role defined with dummy roles and these are replaced with equivalents that represent the access required for the relevant org levels. There are probably a few other uses for the term template - like task and value, it is not a standardised term.
Value: There is a design concept that has transactional content in one role and org level content in another role. The org level/key restriction part is designed to reduce the number of variants created but this introduces complexity in other areas, e.g. it breaks SU24.
It also describes a concept where you have small pieces of authorisation (e.g. cost centre, access to posting periods) where you can supplement the role build with discrete authorisations.
Different transaction in a derived role: As Soumya said, this is not recommended. You could do it by manually adding an instance of S_TCODE and adding the transaction in there however it breaks the derived role concept and as soon as you push changes down from the parent, the change will be overwritten.

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