Consolidation Doubt

Dear Experts 1
I have one doubt for consolidation :
Our clinet having one legal enity in India and also having 2 plants under this legal entity. Both 2 plants are defined and assigned to above legal entity. Now another plant is established in Pune but they are using another system not SAP. As per accounting standards that plant also under group only.
Business would like to do all consolidation along with legacy plant also (Pune) in SAP. Is it posisble to upload every month end legacy plant balances in system ? If it is posisbel how can i get this reports from Consolidation ?What are the primary requirements to upload data every month end?
Best Rgds
ManiKumar

Hi Manikumar,
This could be done in ECCS (Consolidation) by defining the 3 plants as consolidation units and the company code as consolidation group. Every month/period end, you may have to upload the totals records of the 3rd plant into SAP. You can perform the consolidation functions (inter plant eliminations) and finally generate the consolidated report at the group (company code) level.
For documentation on the configurations, please check the following link -
[http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/ECCS/ECCS.pdf]
Regards,
Mike

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