Cost alocation and or distribution

Hello Gurus,
ive got a requirement to settle the spcific % of costs from one cost center and cost element into another cost element.
These steps are done to calculate the primal cost of the workers months load. i.e. if we planned 1000 working hours, but the fact was 500 working hours then we should take 50 % from the posted amount and send it to a specific cost element and cost center.
What is the best way to do that?
Today ive created distribution cycle which collects the specific % of amount and sends it from Cost center and Cost element into Internal order (using TC: KSV5) then i close the IO with KO8G which puts the collected amount into a General ledger account (WITHOUT cost element) then those amounts must be manualy removed from the GL and sent to cost element with cost center.
best regards
Laurynas Prikockis

Hi..
You should allocate through assessment cycle to be created KSU7(for Plan) KSU1(for Act) and to be executed through KSUB (For Plan KSU5 (for Act).
You also creat one secodary cost element in KA06 with Cat 42.
Proceed. if any further help required pl revart back.
kkumar

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Hi Deshpande,
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-- Balance sheet items (distribution)
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Create an plan assessment cycle by proceeding as follows:
1. Enter a name for the cycle
2. Enter a validity timeframe for the cycle
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a) In which currencies the costs should be charged
b) Whether consumption quantities should be charged
c) Whether negative tracing factors should be scaled
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e) In which version the cycle is valid
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Create a plan distribution cycle by proceeding as follows:
1. Determine a name for the cycle.
2. Determine a validity period for the cycle.
3. Maintain the header data for the cycle by entering the following.
a) Which currencies are to be used in the allocations
b) Whether consumption is to be allocated or not
c) Whether negative tracing factors are scaled or not
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b) Criteria for cost distribution to the receiver
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COPA derivation for thecombination of Cost center and Cost element/GL accou

Hi Gurus,
In COPA derivation using KEDR i am trying to make a derivation for the
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Hi Murali
Thanks for update
I explain my req clearly
For me segment is Distribution channel field (EXPORT and DOMESTIC)
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Installer build wants Sound and Vibration Distribution but my vi dont need any

My vi contains some ordinary serial inputs, and an ordinary DAQ to read some 4-20mA, refer attached.
So I save a new project and build a exe with the vi, no problem, refer project files attached.
Then I start to build the installer by clicking on the below libraries to install. I think I click the right library right?
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I bought a NI Developer suite, that expensive stuff costing around US$4000+. My software vendor told me I dont have the license for Sound and Vibration Distribution.
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gmail.vi ‏16 KB
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GL1   ............. 100
GL2   ............. 250
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GL3 .............   50
GL4 ............. 100
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Primary Cost Total ..... 500
X-YZ-1.200 .............   50
X-YZ-1.400 ............. 100
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IO 1............. 100
IO 2 ............. 100
+IO total ............. 200
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I already created Source Structure and assigned to my Setllement profile (so I assigned Allocation Structure AND Source Structure).
I don't understand when you say that I need to assign the Source Sutrcture in each rule....because the Source structure is in the Settlement Parameters valid for both rules...
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