Cost estimate less tna zero
hi
i have a scenario
where i get the free of cost material form customer
i add the conversion,the scarp generated m
if i use the scrap generated as credit the cost estimate is negative
but i should bcz this is a sfg and it fits into aonther FG and the customer do concder the scrap generated credit during pricing
but at the sfg level the cost estimate is negative.how to do this .
Find it very hard to interpret the nature of issue you facing. If you can elaborate with more details or better still upload screenshots to some portal & paste the link here, will be helpful to understand. Also did you discuss this with your CO consultant?
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hi
i have a scenario
where i get the free of cost material form customer
i add the conversion,the scarp generated m
if i use the scrap generated as credit the cost estimate is negative
but i should bcz this is a sfg and it fits into aonther FG and the customer do concder the scrap generated credit during pricing
but at the sfg level the cost estimate is negative.how to do this .maintain the Activity rates "zero" in KP26 for respective Cost center and Activity type.
Material cost comes from Material master.....there we need to have zero price
and try to run the CK11N, you have the chance to get the zero cost estimated.
No idea how it works....do some R & D in DEV
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FG Valuation basis - Std Cost estimate or Net sale value whichever is less
Dear SAP Experts,
Query 1 -
Valuation of Finished goods is done on basis of standard cost estimate (CK24) or Net sale value whichever is less
*Net sale value u2013 Net sales ( Sales value minus Sales deductions)
Eg : Std cost estimate gives FG price as $100, whereas Net sale value price of FG $80,
now the client wants FG values should be at $80
Is there any standard way, wherein SAP can capture whichever is less i.e standard cost estimate vs Net Sale Value
Pl let us know the options and which options would be ideal for query 1
Query 2 u2013 Can we use CRK1 and MR21 to manually change FG price whenever Net sale value is less than std cost estmate price?
u2022 In case the market value is less than the std cost estimate (CK11n) ,then Is this the approach to manually value FG price using CRK1 & MR21.
u2022 What could be the impacts if we follow this approach
For Eg: Impact on prev months WIP, Scrap, stock returns etc
u2022 We simulated CRK1 & MR21 and MR21 entries are posted successfully, however following below warning is the message is showed when CRK1 is executed
Note u2013 Material Ledger is not active
Warning Message
Deleting current standard cost estimates can cause inconsistencies. Your comments please
Message no. CK669
Diagnosis
u2022 If you delete a current standard cost estimate, the fields for the cost estimate are set to zero in the material master record. If you use the material ledger, the standard prices in the material ledger master data are also deleted when you delete the current standard cost estimate. The material master record for the material thus does no longer contains a current standard price from a standard cost estimate.
u2022 If you delete an active standard cost estimate, you can no longer determine scrap, work in process and variations for previous periods.
u2022 In certain countries, it is a legal requirement to maintain records of standard pricing. Therefore, you should check whether you are obliged by law to keep records of your standard cost estimates. Please also contact the relevant accounting and inventory management departments.Dear,
Query 1;
The FG or SFG will be valuated at Standard Cost there is no provision to enter Net sale value
Query 2:
Do not user CKR1 to delete Cost Estimate because it can bring lot of Descripenceies in CO, SAP do not recommend the same.
You can run the revaluation at the month end or revise your activity rates so that you standard price will be change accordingly and your inventory will be re valuated.
Hope it is clear, it not then please revert.
Br,Vivek -
Cost estimate component qty is zero
Dear experts,
I have one Raw material is assigned to many finished products,
When I try to calculate the cost estimates for the finished items,
The calculated qty for my raw material appears for some finished items and some is not appear (zero).
And I checked the BOM but everything is OK
If you have any idea please help me
Thanks in advancethank you sir for answering me,
for my Raw Material (assume X) and for SF with good cost estimate (assume G) ans for bad SF cost estimate (assume B),
G BOM base unit is 10 000 L
X qty in G BOM is 1.210 KG
B BOM base unit is 10 000 L
X qty in B BOM is 1.210 KG
the costing lot size qty is 1000
so, for G item the req, qty from X is ((1.210 KG / 10 000) * 1000 = 0.121) and it is appearing,
and for B item the req qty form X is ((1.210 KG / 10 000) * 1000 = 0.121) and it is not appearing -
MTO - RAW MATERIAL COST ESTIMATE
In an MTO scenario I am using configurable material I run order BOM cost estimate after sales order creation and as a result value gets updated against EK02 condition type in sales order.
For order Bom cost estimate system picks values from material master of raw materials in BOM.
Raw material has moving price in material master, I want to know
1)what price system picks from material master for cost estimate MOVING AVERAGE PRICE, STANDARD PRICE in accounting view
2)Do we run cost estimate for raw materials in MTO, and if so then at what time.hello sir,
plz help me
ne production order shows for cost element of cost of finished goods amt shows vey high the std price in material master is 71 and qty is 140 but it is not showing with this multiplication it is in lacs.
in the production order the target cost is zero and total actal cost in lacs and total variance percentage is 0 only but as per knowledge no variance know but if u calculate 140*.71 it should come less amt as per material maser but in production order i t shows high amount
twe found that they changed the price after GR is done now we want to post JV correct?what is the procedure to post JV in the current month .
the entry at the time of G done with high value is
Finshed goods a/c dr(balance sheet item) 89 post key
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Arjun -
Recursive Loop Error while doing standard cost estimate
SAP Gurus,
We are trying to do standard cost estimate on a material and we are getting error because it is going in recursive loop even though we have used "recursive allowed" indicator for item components in the BOM. The error message numbers are CK 730 and CK 740. We are using 4.6c. I have tried the same scenario in ECC 6.0 and still I get the same problem.
Below is my BOM structure:
Material 10890345 (has low-level code 012)
---> 10867220 (has low-level code 013) and has recursive allowed indicator
10867220
---> 10846733 (has low-level code 014) and has recursive allowed indicator
10846733
---> 10890345 (has low-level code 012) and has recursive allowed indicator
According to me, the BOM for material 10846733 is causing the problem.
For some weird reason while doing the costing run for material 10890345, it s not stopping and going in a loop.10890345 and 10846733 should ideally have the same low-level code as they are recursive.
Please help to provide some solutions at the earliest on how to avoid recursive loop during costing.
Regards,
SwapnilDear,
I have 2 things to shear with you.
The method we followed to solve the iteration is as below
1.Config change -
Valuation variant in the costing variant, we changed the sequence as below
material valuation
4 planned price 1
2 std price
3 Mov ave price
2. Material master change
made all the semi finished goods and finished goods
procurement type = E,
costing with qty structure,
Enter the planned price1
By doing this what happens is
when system first start the iteration, takes the planned price 1 and start iterating and next time in the second iteration it takes the calculated price from qty structure till it finds the difference between the value calculated is less than .001. Then it gives the result
Why lot size is important is, in our case in some levels the usage is very less compared to the first material header qty and system used to stop in between and not even reaching the last level as during the cycle it was reaching less .001 difference. may be in your case it may not be the case...just check
Please come back after trying this. this was the only last option i had to solve the issue in my client.
Another alternative is to have a different material for costing purpose to stop the iteration which i will not recommend as we need to do some calculation for each stage and input the cost of dummy material in each stage.
My client is happy with the result as the difference between manual calculation and system calculation is less then .1%...this is because SAP will not consider the difference beyond .001, but in excel you get as many as decimals you want. -
Can't delete the cost estimate via CKR1
Hi,
We have one material. We can't delete the cost estimate via CKR1. It is only warning. It is no error log. The other material cost estimate can delete normally. I check the material master I can't find the issue. The following is the warning message. Could you pls help check it? Whate factor will effect the cost estimate deletion? Thanks.
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Deleting current standard cost estimates can cause inconsistencies
Message no. CK 669
Diagnosis
u2022 If you delete a current standard cost estimate, the fields for
the cost estimate are set to zero in the material master record. If you
use the material ledger, the standard prices in the material ledger
master data are also deleted when you delete the current standard cost
estimate. The material master record for the material thus does no
longer contains a current standard price from a standard cost estimate.
u2022 If you delete an active standard cost estimate, you can no
longer determine scrap, work in process and variations for previous
periods.
u2022 In certain countires, it is a legal requirement to maintain
records of standard pricing. Therefore, you should check whether you
are obliged by law to keep records of your standard cost estimates.
Please also contact the relevant accounting and inventory management
departments.
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Best Regards
Park HanHi,
The deletion of Current standard cost estimate should be followed with some rules of the IFRS.
If you want to change the standard cost you can do the change,If you want to delete the standard cost of material then it will set the price of material to zero.If the material ledger also activate then it will make the Moving average price & standard cost of the material to zero.
So follow the Law of the country & Discus with Audit team &then delete the curent standard cost estimate of the material.
Regards,
Raj -
ECC 600 - Cost Estimates for Consigned Material
We are in ECC 600and planning to implement Consigned Inventory in short time. However I am stuck with Inventory revaluation for consigned material.
Consingment Flow: Vendor ship these items against standard PO at zero price. At the consumption pricing is captured from Purchase info records.
Material valuation: We are using valuation variant 001 Planned valuation - mat. with
<b> Primary Strategy Sequence </b>
Planned Price 1
Valuation Price 1 Based On Co
Price from Purchasing Info Re
Sub-Strategy Sequence with Purchasing : Strategy Sequence
Purchase Order Price via Condition
Gross Purchase Order Price
Effective Price from Purchase Order
However when I try create cost estimate I am getting following error,
" No price could be determined for material/batch <......>/ plant <..> "
Any suggestions.
Thanks
UdayThanks for the quick response. I did maintain Purchasing info record using ME12. We do see pricing information at the time Production order backflsh. However contract and PO has no pricing information. Therefore initial GR is created with zero price. However at the time consumption against prod order, consignment material gets price from the Purchase info record. Bur consumption documents are not linked back to PO.When I try to cost these material using CK11N, SAP gives following messages,
Msg.typ Material Plnt Area MsgNo Message Text
I 1000 CK 037 Lot size 1 EA taken from costing view
I 1000 CK 776 No valid source of supply found for material plant 1000
E 1000 CK 465 No price could be determined for material/batch / plant 1000
I 1000 CK 361 Value of costing item 00001 in itemization is 0
E 1000 CK 240 Cost component split costed with value of zero
Any clue.
Thanks,
uday -
Digits Of Significance/Rounding Issue-Cost Estimate With Quantity Structure
I have an Excel based BOM which includes Material (Yield) Qty, plus a scrap factor. This adjusted yield is then multiplied by the Unit Price to get the Extended Amount. An example from my file is:
Material 10-0766 = yield of 1.824 sq ft less 4% scrap 0.07 sq ft = adjusted yield 1.897 sq ft * 1.836 USD/sq ft = Ext. Amt of 3.483 USD.
In SAP, I created a BOM via CS01 with this material as a line item, 1.824 as the qty, UOM is FT2 (sq ft) and I added a Assembly Scrap of 4% with the Net ID indicator checked. When I create a cost estimate via CK11N (in our SAP AFS 6.0 sandbox), the itemization for this material reads: qty of 1.897, total cost of 3.48 USD.
The math all works, but the resultant USD amount in SAP is short by .003 USD. I realize that USD currency is configured to only 2 decimal places, and that is fine. But, I thought that the calculations that costing was doing was retaining all the digits of significance past the 2 decimal places being shown, rather than rounding off to 2 decimal places. There are 24 materials in this BOM, and the total delta between my Excel sheet total (17.647 USD) and my SAP estimate (17.63 USD) is 0.017 USD. If I look at each item, the cumulative difference is due to each line rounding off to 2 decimal places.
The units of measure (via tcode CUNI) are all configured to show display 3 decimal places (field DECAN) and round to 5 decimal places (field ANDEC).
Does anyone have any information/suggestions around the precision in my SAP cost estimate? Am I stuck with these differences, or is there something I can do differently to prevent them? I know I can increase digits of significance in Activity Price Calculation, but I can't find anything similar in Product Cost Planning. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Hi
To achieve you have to run the costing run twice once normally.
Secondly you create an alternate BOM 2 by having the same alternate BOM 1 and remove the 2 materials which you dont want.
Execute the costing run, provide the details required in the Costing data screen, press enter, go to the Qty structure screen give the details of the Alternate BOM 2 in the BOM details and execute the costing run.
Save the cost estimate, which would be have been costed without the values of two materials as you wanted by using the alternate BOM 2.
Then use CK24, select the option "other prices" to release the cost estimate for the commercial price only by selecting the indicator of commercial price 3 only.
Regards,
Suraj -
Target costs is showing as ZERO for one material in KKBC_ORD
Hi,
When i execute KKBC_ORD,It is showing the Total Target Costs as ZERO for one material.Cost estimate was already executed for that material.I couldnot find out the problem for this issue.
Kindly help me to find why it is giving the ZERO value for this Total Target Costs in KKBC_ORD transaction.
It would be a great help if any one helps me...
Thanks
SupriyaDear,
Have you done the GR final DEV for order?
You need to do the variance calculation in KKS2, then when you save the variance, the target cost is calculated.
Target cost appear after GR. I think you are checking in CO03GotoCost--Analyasis.
Go to t.code OKEV.Select Controlling Area XXX and create Plan / Target version
Go to transaction OKV6 these settings control what values are used to update the target costs.
Target Costs=Actual Quantitiy X the Standard Cost Estimate Price..
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R.Brahmankar -
Costing sheet and standard cost estimate
Hi
I am trying to use Costing sheet for overhead calculation .
But in costing run I am not getting the overhead amount calculated .
I created the costing sheet and assigned that to valuation variant .
Where from the actual / Plan values being picked up for over head calculation .
More over I need to understand on what basis the %age for overhead can be calculted to be aborbed to material cost .
In costing run I am having ZERO values for overhead .
I have followed the following steps
Costing Sheet: Components
Define Calculation Bases
Define Percentage Overhead Rates
Define Quantity-Based Overhead Rates
Define Credits
Define Overhead Keys
Define Overhead Groups
Even then the Production overhead is not being calculated at the time of Cost Run
for standard cost estimate .
regardsDo you enter overhead group in the material master.
Key that groups together materials to which the same overhead is applied.
Procedure
In costing with and without quantity structure, and when costing production orders and run schedule headers, you can apply percentage overhead charges by means of an overhead key if you:
Assign a costing sheet to your production order or run schedule header, or to the valuation variant for the cost estimate
Enter overhead charges in this costing sheet that use the overhead key field
Assign the overhead key to an overhead group
Enter this overhead group in the material master record of the material -
Error when Create Cost Estimate for Material using CK11
Dear Experts,
I have a material ABCD which is FOC parts:-
1) Procurement type: F
2) Special procurement type: Z (at first, it was wrongly entered as B. I changed special procurement to Z & the message 'The procurement type of the special procurement type is E' displayed but I still can save & system allowed it).
3) Standard price is 0.00 as this is FOC.
Firstly, I run CK11 for material EFGH which is the parent of material ABCD.
This time, the material ABCD has special procurement type B. I received error messages:
1) No price could be determined for material ABCD in plant xyz,
2) Cost component split costed with value of zero,
3) Cost estimate for material ABCD in plant xyz is incorrect.
Then, I changed special procurement type for material ABCD from B to Z and run CK11 again. Still the same error occurred.
Could someone advise me how to run CK11 without errors.
Thanks in advance!I don't know if B and Z are really the name of your special procurement keys or you are just using them as examples. Either way, the special procurement key is critical for determining how your material is valued. It is used for such things as stock transfer from other plant, subcontracting, and consignment processes. Can you tell me how these special proccurement keys are set or what you want to use these keys for. You can find the configuration for these key under menu path Controlling - Porduct cost controlling - Product cost planning - Material cost estimate with quantity structure - Settings for quantity structure control - Master data - Check special procurement types.
thanks, -
Cost Estimate - 0CO_PC_PCP_03 extractor
Hello people,
I am extracting data from 0CO_PC_PCP_03 which gives the breakdown of cost estimates. However, ONE key figure for Item Component u2018Gu2019 and cost component u201915 (Loading)u2019 does not come through in the extractor; it is always zero for every material.
Going into R3 (t-code CK13N) I found that this is because this extractor gives the cost of goods manufactured, and not the cost of goods sold. In fact, the only difference between the COGM and the COGS is this u2018Loadingu2019 cost.
I also found that the function module CK_F_ITEMIZATION_CONVERT makes the key figures for Loading to zeros. This is the route of the issue. Does anyone have a solution or know how to get at the Cost of Goods Sold data?
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I am facing the same issue and I do not know how to solve it... do you have any solution for this?
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Cost component split costed with value of zero
Hi,
We have ML activated for the Plant/ Valuation area.
We have Company Code Currency type -10 and Controlling Area Currency type - 30. Both Currencies are different.
I have maintained in OKYW, the company code and costing type and Valuation variant.
When I am running the cost estimate for the material and Plant I am getting the error..
"Cost component split costed with value of zero".
I have also checked that the cost element is assigned to Cost Component split and is active.
I am not able to find out what is the reason for the error. I am stuck up and not bale to run the cost estimate.
Please help/ suggestion.
regards
KamiDear Kami,
This error is probably caused by the currency conversion. Error CK 240 is raised if
a) cost component split in co-area currency is zero
b) the costing variant is used for standard price update
c) cost component split in co-area currency is stored on database
(this is a customizing setting of the costing variant)
There are 3 ways to proceed:
1) use a greater costing lot size for the raw materials with CK 240
--> costing value in CO area currency will be greater 0
2) disable saving of cost component split in co-area currency
3) deactivate coding of note 927372 --> please review note 1004727 for details.
Kind regards,
Antje -
Hi there ,
I have done the material cost estimate with Qty structure in CK11n with costing variant PPC1..... It is done sucessfully .... now when I am trying to mark & release the same in CK24.... I am getting the log as Zero matarial & cost estimate updated....
Please advice
Regards
KaushikDear,
Your error seems from material master.
Check following data are maintained or not.
with qty structure is tick
Do not cost should not tick
Material origin is tick.
Overhead Group is assign.
Costing lot size.
GOPAN.
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