Cost of order and total standard activity times

Hi,
please let me know from which table i can get the following
1.Planned total cost of a production order &
2.Total standard activity times of production order.
Regards
Ramesh

for order cost use function module /CWM/CKCOPROD_ORD_TARGET_COST
test the function module with your abaper if it returns the vadesired values, through table it will be vary complecated.
for order related activity times please check AFVV, AFVC and AFRU tables .
hope this will help
reward if useful
Thank you
Anand

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I am following this thread...but want to add some views on this..
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Cost estimate looks good since I have the valuation variants setup to include additive costs.
But when I see the production order that is being created, all others costs are being considered except additive costs. They are recognized but not as a line item instead as a variance. When I settle the order the costs actually hit price difference account and not even the GL account that I had assigned for the additive cost. SAP did not consider the cost as variance even if it was showing up as variance initially. This as I understood is partly because of the settlement rule that I have in place which tells SAP to go and settle on the material (which is standard SAP to do since I want all the costs from the production order to settle on the eventual material going into stock) so SAP went on to settling on the material. Since the material is set as standard price the variance is being booked as a price difference entry.
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1. So your standard cost got two part, one with quantity structure ( materials, labor, OSC etc) which the system cost automatically and one manual part, which is your additive cost. While costing system picks up this manual part from CK74N.
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Sales order - show total plan costs (from production order) on sales order

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We create prodction order to collect cost (hours) for a service. There exists also a material master for this service.
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