Cross Business Group employees PO Approval?!

Dear PO Experts,
I have situation some thing like this. I have 3 business groups called BG-A and BG-B
I have employees defined in BG-A as follows who are PO approvers(Who has authority to Approve PO)
John
Adam
Smith
I have employees defined in BG-B as follows, who makes PO.
Nancy
Maria
Now my question is?
Can John(BG-A) approve a PO made by Nancy(BG-B)? (note: these two employees are defined in Different BGs)
Please let me know your views.
At this point in time John, Adam and Smith names defined as employees in BG-B as well to fecilitate the approval process?
Note: we are using Approval Workflow.
Regards
SK

Hi,
Employees are restricted at Business Group level and not at Operating Unit level. So only employees belonging to the same business groups can be used to form an approval list.
So you cannot use employee from a different business group(A) to approve PO created by another employee from business group B.
Let me know if this clears your doubt.
Raajkumar

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