CS3, Mac OS 10.5.5, Epson 3800 Printing Problems (v6.11)

Since recently migrating to MacIntel running an obligatory 10.5.5 , I've been encountering problems printing to my Epson 3800 of 2 kinds that had previously not arisen on PPC based Macs using 10.4+: 1) When switching media that requires a change of black ink (photo black to matte or vice versa) there does not seem to be a straightforward way to go about this without encountering glitches (previously this had been handled smoothly by the driver); 2) The driver indicates randomly that my paper feed parameters are incorrect for a given job, when in fact this is not the case, and this makes printing needlessly irksome and inefficient. This is a marvelous printer that I've been using for the past 15 months so I'd appreciate any suggestions that would allow me to remedy these problems.

Dear Ralph,
Thank you for replying to my post.
It does not seem that I will solve my problem by localisation "rectification". I am in an all International environment. Hmm.
Do you use InDesign CS3 in a totally colour managed environment?
I just got a Colour Profile done for my Intel Mac machine from InDesign and it is 'less than perfect'. Very frustrating.
This colour expert suggests I set up my work flow as follows:
[Well if I was allowed to include snapshots of my screen they would appear here.]
The Printer Profile I am using in the Colour Management dialogue box is the profile provide by the Colour Expert.
How do you set things up please?
I had, in fact still have, an Epson 3000 that the Colour Expert profiled and gave me phenomenal colour accuracy up until OS 10.5.5 when the Epson driver became non-operational. I am so disappointed that I am having so much difficulty with the 3800.
I think there are Adobe v. Mac issues plus driver problems!!!
If you can shed any light on this, I would welcome it.
Thanks.

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Well Adobe did it again offering a discount to convert to CS5 just before they released a new version of PSE that is PSE9 for mac
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*BUGS IN UPDATE OS-X 10.6.5*
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