Customer support is worst in the industry

You need to fire every single person that answers the phone and start from scratch with people that know how your system works so far we have been trying a month to get it right and it has only cost me roughly 6 hours of sitting on hold. At least get some decent music to listen to!!!!!

kosk101 wrote:
i just want to know if and/or when i will be able to use the you tube widget via media manager with a Mac.  No one at FIOS has been able to give me an answer other than "soon" and I doubt they knew what I was talking about.   if you know anything I'd be very greatful to hear it.
thank you
Verizon generally does not announce or post specific rollout dates for anything, because they have a well-earned reputation for missing those dates, and they are simply avoiding the PR hassles that result from missing such dates.

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