DC-in board replaced but charging problem remains

Hi,
I have a 1.67 15" G4 PowerBook that spent long periods plugged into the AC mains with the battery in (I didn't know the G4 PB would work attached to AC with battery removed!)
There was some heat generated; the battery gave increasingly poor performance whenever it was unplugged and then finally stopped charging altogether.
I have a friend with the same model and using his good charged battery the PB works fine but even his battery will not charge when plugged into AC mains.
I thought the DC-in board sounded like the problem so replaced it with a used one stripped from a working PB unit from a large parts vendor.
However the problem remains ie: AC adaptor lights amber; no charging shown on screen battery icon; System Profile says Charger Connected: No, Charging: No
I have tried the PRAM reset and got the 'Date Change' warning box on reboot but still no charging.
Any thoughts?
Do Apple do a remote battery charger if the problem is in the logic board?

Yeah, they must originate from different points, but I would definitely guess that they merge somewhere of course to power the rest of the machine. It just makes sense logistically and monetarily for that to happen. I would bet more on the electronics on the logic board in regards to the power being bad. But it would have to be before the DC-In / Battery juncture because it boots from battery. I would doubt it's the cables. Most of those connector cables are ribbon cables, which are pretty sturdy. Also from the fact that those cables pretty much never move after they were placed inside the case. I just don't see how a short could be created in them. All I can guess maybe is that one of the components on the actual logic board side connecting to the DC-In board is bad somehow. No way for me to know how to test that directly though. I haven't had a chance to poke around with it much right now as I had to take my car in to the shop. Might have time this week-end to investigate some more. I'll definitely let you know if I come up with a solution / cause of problem.

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