Down Payment Received - Output Tax Account definition

Hi,
I have defined reconciliation account for down payment received under OBXR, and it works fine. However, the issue comes when we post output tax received along with customer down payment. I get the error "No taxes on sales/purch.are allowed for account 214010, O1 is not allowed". 214010 is our customer down payment account.
It looks like I have to define tax account under "Define Tax Accounts for Down Payments Received (OB40)" and also "Define Account for Tax Clearing (OBXB)". I am not sure where in OB40 and OBXB I have to define these accounts. Or is it enough if I just define tax account for down payment under OB40 and don't do anything in OBXB.
I appreciate your help.
Thank you

> Hi,
>
> I have defined reconciliation account for down
> payment received under OBXR, and it works fine.
> However, the issue comes when we post output tax
> received along with customer down payment. I get the
> error "No taxes on sales/purch.are allowed for
> account 214010, O1 is not allowed". 214010 is our
> customer down payment account.
> Go to your GL account 214010 in FS00 in change mode and make the following settings from F4. < Output tax account
> It looks like I have to define tax account under
> "Define Tax Accounts for Down Payments Received
> (OB40)" and also "Define Account for Tax Clearing
> (OBXB)". I am not sure where in OB40 and OBXB I have
> to define these accounts. Or is it enough if I just
> define tax account for down payment under OB40 and
> don't do anything in OBXB.
> Once u make the above settings then the system will tell you whether you need to define other accounts for postings once you make postings.> I appreciate your help.
>
> Thank you

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> Hi,
>
> I have defined reconciliation account for down
> payment received under OBXR, and it works fine.
> However, the issue comes when we post output tax
> received along with customer down payment. I get the
> error "No taxes on sales/purch.are allowed for
> account 214010, O1 is not allowed". 214010 is our
> customer down payment account.
> Go to your GL account 214010 in FS00 in change mode and make the following settings from F4. < Output tax account
> It looks like I have to define tax account under
> "Define Tax Accounts for Down Payments Received
> (OB40)" and also "Define Account for Tax Clearing
> (OBXB)". I am not sure where in OB40 and OBXB I have
> to define these accounts. Or is it enough if I just
> define tax account for down payment under OB40 and
> don't do anything in OBXB.
> Once u make the above settings then the system will tell you whether you need to define other accounts for postings once you make postings.> I appreciate your help.
>
> Thank you

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