"Embedded" camera profile for .dng file?

Why does Lightroom 5 show "embedded" as an option for camera profile for .dng files created by my pentax k-30? I thought that "embedded" profiles did not apply to .dng files?

A JPG can contain color profile data not just a reference tag containing the name, although other Google results indicate that the APP2 segment is only has 65533 bytes of data and if the profile is too large for that then it is either chunked somehow or written into an XMP segment:
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/javax/imageio/metadata/doc-files/jpeg_metadata.ht ml#color
“If the ColorSpace of the image is based on a non-standard ICC Profile, then that profile is embedded in an APP2 marker segment. If the ColorSpace is not based on a non-standard ICC Profile, but an app2ICC node appears in the metadata, then an APP2 marker segment is written with the appropriate standard profile. Note that the profile must specify an RGB color space, as the file must be JFIF compliant.”
EXIFtool can extract and embed a profile:
http://cpanforum.com/threads/2873

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Lightroom 5.7 Not Showing Camera Profiles from DNG File

Hello,
I just installed Adobe DNG Converter 9.0 and converted some Nikon D7200 fles to DNG for import into Lightroom 5.7. This works fine except for the Camera Specific profiles not showing up. Only Adobe Standard shows up.
When I open the same DNG file in Adobe Camera Raw in Photoshop CS6, [it] properly shows all the camera specific profiles for the D7200. What am I doing wrong?
Here is what the develop module Camera Profile drop down menu looks like in LR 5.7
And in Photoshop CS6 Adobe Camera RAW ( ACR ) 8.7.1.311
Thanks for your insight.

gonzalu, the reason is because the profiles are installed separately for Camera Raw vs Lightroom.
If you're using Lr 5.x, then to get the extra D7200 profiles visible in Lr, you'll need to manually copy/install them. Try looking here:
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon D7200
and copy the contents of that folder to here:
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles
(where you should substitute your actual username, above).
Then restart Lr and the profiles should be visible now.
(You don't need to do this step if you're running Lr CC, because the new profiles are included with that installation.)

Custom DNG camera profiles only available for DNG files?

I developed a custom camera profile for my Sigma DP-1, using a colorchecker chart and the DNG profile editor.
I exported the DNG profile in the default location.
When I open Lightroom or ACR, the new profile is not available for X3F files, only DNG files. Is this normal???

Well, I've imported the original X3F file as well as the converted DNG file in Lightroom.
When I develop the DNG file, my custom profile appears in the list. When I click on the X3F file, embedded* is the only option.
It may have to do with an incomplete support of the X3F format. I have just repeated the exercise for my D300, and in this case the custom profile is available for NEF files.
Too bad since I'm happy with some of the Adobe camera profiles for the D300, but less so with the default look for Sigma DP-1 files.
I guess I should file a bug report...
* or "matrix" or whatever is the term in the english version, I have the french version which says "incorporé"

Where do you put DNG camera profile for light room?

I just received my Leica M9 and downloaded from chromasoft a camera profile for the M9. it is a .dcp file but I can not find where to use it.
Adolfo

Dependent on OS. On Windows vista the usual location is Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CamerRaw\CameraProfiles .
Or you can place it directly in the folder where the Adobe profiles are located, usually Users\All Users\Adobe\CamerRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera|Leica M9
on OSx /Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles
The actual profile is used via the calibration setting in the develop module.

Could´nt find a camera profile for the M9.

I have just bought a Leica M9 but I could not find a camera profile for the M9. In the folder "application support/adobe/camera raw/" there is only a profile for the M8. Do I simply not see the profile or is there none. I am using Lightroom 4.4. and Camerea Raw 7.6. on a Mac.

It isn’t on the list but it produces DNGs with an embedded camera profile so it wouldn’t need any specific support from Adobe, I don’t think, so maybe they didn’t feel the need.
If you download the sample DNGs from KenRockwell, you’ll see an Embedded and an Adobe Standard camera profile, which don’t appear to be different because switching between them produces only the tiniest variation in the histogram. If something equivalent to Adobe Standard is already embedded in the camera’s DNGs that there wouldn’t be any other Camera-this or Camera-that profiles to match, hence only Adobe Standard is supplied.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/m9/sample-photos-3.htm

Current Lightroom / Camera Raw Camera Profile for Sony ILCE-6000 inaccurate: green cast in shadows! Capture one better! Please fix it!

Hi folks from Adobe!
Please take note that the current Lightroom / Adobe Camera Raw Camera Profile for the Sony ILCE-6000 is very inaccurate: There is a serious green cast in the shadows!
Capture One Express for Sony (which is free by the way) renders a lot more correctly!
Please correct this, since I'd rather buy the coming LR6 because of keeping my established workflow instead of going the Capture One route.
A good example can be found in the dpreview forum "LR5 A6K shadow pulling, a mess! Adobe LR is broken? "
Or search for Philp Reeves 3 weeks with the Sony A6000 review "3 Wochen mit der a6000", where he compares it to the Sony A7, using both times Lightroom to push the shadows.
The Sony A7 is fine where earth looks like brown earth, the A6000 picture looks like grass instead.
Please fix this! This is a high volume camera frequently bought by enthusiast or as second body for FF photographers. That would be really great!

I am talking about the two raw files linked in the very last post of page 6 of the Reeves comparison thread, not JPGs or screenshots of unknown manipulation. In LR they both say f/11 and ISO 100 and have a similar tone, but one is shot at twice the shutter speed as the other. This side-by-side is using Adobe Factory Defaults for each image where the profile is Adobe Standard, the toning sliders are all 0, tone-curve linear, and the Sharpening and Color NR are 25:
However, when I look at the camera-embedded JPGs, side-by-side, the 1/80th image on the left is darker than the 1/40th image on the right, as expected given the reported shutter-speed difference:
And it is indeed the darker image that has more shadow problems, also as expected.
When I do manipulate the darker (a6000) raw file in LR, I do see that the shadows are greenish when brightened unlike most other cameras which usually show magenta, which is the combination of the blue and red sensors showing more noise because there are half-as-many photosites as compared to the green, so I am seeing what people are complaining about and would expect shadow noise to be purple not green, I'm more concerned that these two example raws aren't actually comparable due to apparent differences in exposure. It is also odd that the lens listed in LR is different than the lens listed in the filename, so either someone has mistakenly or deliberately renamed the file wrong or someone or something has changed the EXIF parameters that LR is reporting to be the same when they're really not.

Camera Profiles and DNG Profile Editor beta 2 now available

Hi everyone,
Beta 2 of the camera profiles and DNG Profile Editor are now available. Please visit here and enjoy:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles
I hope to have more detailed release notes/changes for you soon. You are welcome to ask questions, but please note that it may take a while for me to respond.
Eric

Eric,
I followed very carefully your instructions for installing the new beta2 profiles and deleting the beta1 profiles, but have the same problems as many others. I'd like to provide a bit more information. I'm running Windows Vista Home Premium and have installed Photoshop CS4, updated with ACR5.1 and Lightroom 2.1 final release. As others have described, the default for all of my images was set to one of the Camera profiles (Canon faithful beta1), but now the profile name in Lightroom is blank. I tried looking at the other profiles and it does indeed appear that the beta2 profile is being used, but if I then reset the image it now shows ACR4.4, whereas the image had been imported with the camera profile as default. Also, if I open an image in ACR5.1 that was specified to use the same camera profile, it now shows ACR4.4 and it is not using the beta2 profile of what I had been using, I can see this by selecting the other profiles. Going back to Lightoom, I guess I could select all my images and select the Canon faithful beta2 profile, but then the mark shows up bottom right of the image showing that they have all been edited/modified, is there anyway to get all my images using the profile I was using but the beta2 version, without this happening and how about new imports?
Thanks, David.

Camera raw and DNG files appear as generic icons

Camera raw and DNG files appear as generic icons instead of image previews (Bridge CS5)
What can I do ?

Hi Yammer.
First thanks a lot for taking your time to help me. I am really happy about it!
I will try to answer:
1)
I meant by having the Camera Raw.8bi placed in BOTH "C:\Programmer\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CS5\Plug-Ins" and in C:\Programmer\Fælles filer\Adobe Plug-Ins\CS5\File Formats" the ACR will be found in two versions - or rather in two places (I know the former shouldn't be, but it solved my preview problem).
2)
YES - I do have tried twice starting the Adobe Bridge holding down the Ctrl-key and ticking the two (the third was greyed out but ticked anyway) and with no help.
3)
I have tried to do the *.8bi search you suggested, and this gives me the following dump - absolutely with a few more entries than yours. Some are like doubled.
Do you think I can just delete these?
Kind regards, Jan

Where/how to obtain camera profiles for Adobe Camera Raw 7.3?

Where can you get camera profiles for ACR? And how do you load them into ACR? Is the Sony A77 on that list? Need help on this one. Thanks.

Adobe Standard is the only camera profile available for your camera, then, if that’s all you see.
Adobe only makes the so-called “camera-match” profiles, with names like Camera Standard, Camera Portrait, Camera Faithful, etc, for Canon and Nikon and a select few others. I suspect there is a lot of work involved in these and they don’t do it for cameras they see as less popular or less used.
They wouldn’t be the same as the Camera-Match profiles from Adobe but you can create your own proilfes with an X-Rite 24-patch ColorChecker Classic and the Adobe DNG Profile Editor or using the X-Rite ColorChecker Passport package:
http://xritephoto.com/ph_product_overview.aspx?ID=1257

Camera profiles for Sony A700

Hi,
I'm working in CS4 (Mac) and I downloaded the latest camera raw 5.6. I have only the Adobe standard, ACR 4.4 and ACR 3.5 in the Camera Calibration -Camera Profile.
I don't see special camera profiles for my Sony A700. In tutorials they showed profiles for Canon or Nikon. How can I get the profiles for the A700? Do they exist?
Thanks a lot
Claudine

Hi Claudine,
At the moment these are the only profiles made by Adobe for the A700. You can build your own profiles (or edit existing profiles) using the free DNG Profile Editor, if you wish. Another solution for a custom profile is the ColorChecker Passport, from X-Rite.
Eric

D750 Nikon are the camera raw or DNG file ready to work in the Raw format in Lightroom?

D750 Nikon are the camera raw or DNG file ready to work in the Raw format in Lightroom?

Crazy idea - do a site search for "D750"...

Camera profile for Panasonic DMC - LX7 ?

Hi ! Where could I find camera profile for my new (ld) Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7 ?
Any help welcome !

You can create your own profile or search the community to see if one has been created for your camera by somebody else.
See this blog link:
http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/tag/the-adobe-lens-profile-creator-tool

Embedding a camera profile in DNG

I've read that camera profiles can be embedded in a DNG file; how does one do this?

When you have save a DNG from Camera Raw, the currently selected camera profile is embedded in the resulting DNG.

No camera profiles for D90 and D80 files in ACR 8.3?

Hello,
I recently bought in to Adobe's Creative Cloud and downloaded the latest version of Photoshop and ACR. I love the new process and everything about the new Photoshop, however, when I went to re-edit some older images taken with a Nikon D80 and D90, there were no profiles to be found under the camera calibration tab. What gives? My only option for D90 files is "ACR 4.6" and "ACR 4.4 and 3.6" for the D80 files. Where are all the rest? What am I missing? What's strange is that they are all there in Lightroom. I hate Lightroom, though, and would prefer to continue working within ACR if possible.
Thanks a ton for any insight.

Here is what I have for D90 camera profiles in the Camera\Nikon D90 and Adobe Standard folders under ProgramData with PS-CC and ACR 8.3 installed:
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon D90>dir
Volume in drive C is C - Boot
Volume Serial Number is 26BE-4B1F
Directory of C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon D90
01/11/2014 02:51 PM    <DIR>          .
01/11/2014 02:51 PM    <DIR>          ..
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,100 Nikon D90 Camera D2X Mode 1.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,100 Nikon D90 Camera D2X Mode 2.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,100 Nikon D90 Camera D2X Mode 3.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,100 Nikon D90 Camera Landscape.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,098 Nikon D90 Camera Neutral.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,098 Nikon D90 Camera Portrait.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,098 Nikon D90 Camera Standard.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,096 Nikon D90 Camera Vivid.dcp
               8 File(s)        896,790 bytes
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Adobe Standard>dir *D90*
Volume in drive C is C - Boot
Volume Serial Number is 26BE-4B1F
Directory of C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Adobe Standard
03/18/2013 11:32 AM            55,838 Nikon D90 Adobe Standard.dcp
               1 File(s)         55,838 bytes
I believe these profiles can also come from installing the DNG Converter 8.3, so if the profiles don't seem to exist, then try downloading and installing the DNGC 8.3 from:
http://www.adobe.com/downloads/updates

Camera profiles in DNG from camera (Leica S2, M8)

Hi all,
I´m reviewing captures from the Leica S2, which is saving Raw in the DNG format after capture. There is only one camera profile in the DNG files ("embedded"). Compared to a JPEG (mode DNG+JPG for capture) of the same shot the color rendering with the embedded profile is more saturated and slightly shifted in the hues. Greens get an ugly plastic look.
I have captures with Leica M8, too. They have more camera profiles: Embedded, Adobe Standard, Camera Standard and ACR legacy (3.6, 4.4).
As I understand Leica M8 DNGs are supported by Adobe with camera specific camera profiles while Leica S2 DNGs are NOT supported by Adobe with specific camera profiles.
Please can someone clarify this?
Second question: Is the Leica S2 embedded profile a camera specific profile (from Leica) or a general camera profile? Who is in charge for the embedded profile?
Mike
((posted this yesterday in DNG forum too, but this forum seems to be more visited))

Jeff Schewe wrote:
As far as I can see, any support for the S2 raw files is preliminary (which means it's NOT officially supported with a full range of color profiles).
Jeff,
I´ve got shots from two S2 cameras and they are pre-production (in terms of firmware, Leica will update this).
I process them with ACR 5.6 / LR 2.6.
As far as I understand "embedded" means color rendering as supposed by the camera maker (in this case Leica) and "Adobe Standard" does mean an official camera profile from Adobe. "Embedded" is pretty close to the color rendering of the S2´s JPEGs.
By the way, Capture One does open the DNG with a "DNG File Neutral" ICC profile. The color rendering is quite different. I know there is no DNG camera profile support in other applications than ACR/LR.

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