Export under Rebate - No Bond
Dear all,
I have already created a pricing for exports with ED & Cess statistical as for exports we dont pay duty.
When i go to create bond under rebate i am getting a error message - Bond cannot be created under rebate.
To my knowledge when we do exports under rebate we pay the duty.
Kindly suggest a solution....on how to map both the senarios through one pricing.
Regards
Kishan
Hi Kishan,
For Exports under rebate you do not create a bond since excise will have to be paid and then claimed back. You will have to generate an ARE-1 document, complete the formalities and then claim the refund.
As regards to your query on the pricing procedure, for exports under rebate, the excise and cess should not be statistical in nature, since they need to be paid.
prasanna
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Export Under Rebate Pricing Procedure Configuration
Hi SD professionals,
My Client have practice of export under rebate in which they used to export the goods by utilizing balances available in RG23A/RG23C.
They charge excise with regular excise rates & but this duties are not charged to the customer & charged to rebate receivable account/excise expenses.
FI requirement is accounting entry required is:
Customer account.....Dr. Rs.100
Rebate receivable .....Dr. Rs.10.3
Sales Cr. ........... Cr. Rs.100
Excise Paid/Payable.... Cr. Rs.10.3
Customer account.....Dr. Rs.100
Excise Not Availed Expenses .....Dr. Rs.10.3(Expense Account)
Sales Cr. ........... Cr. Rs.100
Excise Paid/Payable.... Cr. Rs.10.3
The above entries are for billing document & excise invoice would be as per regular practice.
How can we configure this in pricing procedure for export under rebate?
I had tried through statistical condition type but not serving any purpose.
Please suggest config or workarounds.
Regards,
Balaji ParsewarHi Kishan,
For Exports under rebate you do not create a bond since excise will have to be paid and then claimed back. You will have to generate an ARE-1 document, complete the formalities and then claim the refund.
As regards to your query on the pricing procedure, for exports under rebate, the excise and cess should not be statistical in nature, since they need to be paid.
prasanna -
Hi gurus,
I have a scenario for deemed export under rebate. As in case of exports there is a check for no bond-under rebate in J1IIN. But in case of Deemed Export there is no selection option in J1IIN.
Kindly give a solution as its GO-LIVE criticle. Right now i have to manually pass JV for this transaction.
Regards
KishanHi Kishan,
Request to re-check with client on this scenario.
If you run thorugh Excise / CBEC manual - rules and regulation have been mentioned only against Exports (physical export of goods) under claim of Rebate.
<b>There is no provision for Deemed export under claim of Rebate.</b>
Available standard settings in SAP for deemed export are in sync with the present legal requirement.
Thanks and Regards, -
Dear Friends,
I need to generate both Rebate and LOU excise invoices.
IMG setting I have maintained as below:
1) LG --> Tax on Goods Movement --> India --> Basic Settings --> Maintain Series Group. Here for the series group, "No util" and "Imm.util" boxes are unchecked
2) LG --> Tax on Goods Movement --> India --> Business Transaction --> Outgoing Excise Invoice --> Maintain Default Excise Groups and Series Groups. Here under the tab Exports "Exports under LOU " .
While creating excise invoice in J1IIN, after giving the billing document reference and entering into screen, when I am selecting the No bond option (Export Bond / No Bond / Deemed / LoU) ...system is giving a message .....
Calculate Excise duty on the document.....
The message details shows - The billing document has no excise duty..... Use 'Calculate Tax' Function to determine excise Duty for export .Dear Jude,
I have maintained one pricing condition PR00 both for capturing the price and assessable value....where I have maintained Condition category 'H' - in condition type PR00.The values are flowing into the Excise Invoice and subsequently into ARE1....
My Issue ....
1.The values when I create a Export Excise invocice the excise values are in Display mode....and No A/C doc gets generated for the Export Excise Invoice under LUT and Rebate...Let me know this is fine.
2.Once I create a ARE1 referring to the Rebate Excise Invoice.....the output shows the blank "AMOUNT OF REBATE " column, but the "VALUE" and the "DUTY PAID" coulmns are showing the Excise values...
So my question is once I create a ARE1 for Rebate the A/c entries should update the Cenvat Credit Receivables A/c and Rebate claim A/c......How can i achieve this....Since the Export Excise Invoice and the ARE1 generates no A/C doc?
Thanks
Ivy -
Rebt no bond:under rebate
hi all
iam not able to create rebt no bond:under rebate in the transaction J1IBN01(create bond )
its showing the error BOND CAN NOT BE CREATED FOR EXPORTS UNDER REBATE
ANY SOLUTIONS ?
REGARDS
SRIDHARHi
IT is the standard behaiviour as it is not possible to create a bond for export under rebate and i think there will not be any bond as the excise duties are paid and later claimed as rebate
regards -
Hi
In what case Export under no bond possible?
As per my knowledge for Export ARE-1 is required.
for ARE-1 creation Bond is required?
Does Export under no Bond means Export with LOU???
Reg,
AmolIn exports, under three methods, we can declare the excise returns. They are
1) Exports Under Bond
2) Exports Under Letter of Undertaking and
3) Exports under Rebate
1) Exports Under Bond
Exporters are classified into two categories. Manufacturer-Exporters who manufacture and export the goods in his own name without payment of excise duty and Merchant Exporters who buy the goods without payment of excise duty from a manufacturer and export the goods in his name. For getting the goods without payment of duty, the merchant exporter has to necessarily execute a bond (standard forms are prescribed for various types of bonds, in which the assessee gives an undertaking to export the goods within a stipulated period as per the law). The execution of bond is to ensure that in case of non-fulfillment of obligation, the central excise duty amount liable to be paid on the goods can be realized from him. Normally the bond is executed for an amount equivalent to the duty amount payable on the goods that the exporter is planning to export. Whenever the goods are cleared from the factory without payment of duty for export, the duty amount payable on the goods will be debited from the Running Bond Account. Whenever the goods are actually exported (after the proof of export is received from the Division/Maritime Commissioner), the manufacturer will take credit of the duty amount debited earlier by him. The manufacturer also has the option to maintain a running bond account by executing a bond with the Central Excise authorities. Though it is optional for a manufacturer-exporter to execute a bond for export clearances, it is very much necessary for merchant exporters.
The other two will be followed separately due to format restriction.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi -
Export Sales under rebate cliam
Hi,
In the Export sales under rebate scenario, When the excise amount will be posted in GL whether it will be at the time of Excise invoice creation or ARE1 posting.
Will ARE1 posting generate any accounting documentation.Hi,
When you create an excise invoice for exports under rebate . A/c document needs to be generated and than you will create an ARE1. So for export under rebate you debit the duties at the time of sale and take the rebate in the end of the month.
Setting for for normal exports and export under rebate will be different.
Also note that at the time of ARE1 no g/l account entries will be trigger in any process
REgards,
Krishna O -
ARE 1 (NO BOND PROCESS/UNDER REBATE)
Hi All,
Plz help me---
I have facing problem in ARE -1 .
I have Created,Post & Updateds ARE -1 under Rebate Claim.
All the process are ok & all the data are capturing except Amount of Rebate.
In ARE -1 Amount of Rebate Column is blank
(But in lagacy there are data like --
Ex Duty XXX(amt)
Ed Cess XXX(amt)
S.H Cess XXX (amt.)
Total Rs/- XXX (amt)
debited vide RG23A Part II
entry no xxx)
Date xxxxxxxxxx
So the main problem is to get the entry no, i have no idea from where the ENTRY NO. will capture
So how to capture data in the column AMOUNT OF REBATE(column no 14 in sap standard)
Note: - In excise invoice(j1iin) i have selected no bond.
Best Regards
Santanu GiriYour main problem is not, that you don't see anything in MMC (the system can be added manually without much hazzle) - but is, that you database content of schema SAP<SID>DB does not match the data found on the filesystem.
If you copy the filesystem structure from production to test/qa, you need to make sure, the database and filesystem are in sync. You will have two problems if you "just copy them":
- They are out of sync because your production was going on running since you copied the backup files
- all configuration (all java property sheets) is/are set to point to the production system instead of the test/qa system
I doubt, that it will work if you copy it over. This also explains, why you can't even start configtool, because it points to the wrong system/schema. You MAY be able to fix all that manually, but you may encounter subsequent errors because not all configuration is documented, you would need to step into the whole j2ee tree and look at each and every propertysheet to find out, whether it's correct or not. Additionally, the database may have other information (see above) and all that may become overwritten during bootstrap.
So - the best way to get your system up and running quickly is to start sapinst on the source system, export your Java instance (not using ABAP but the Java dump) and re-importing that to your test/qa system.
Markus -
Hi all,
Can any one of you please tell me the cofiguration set up for No Bond:Under Rebate processing. my current organization want to go for ARE1 processing with bonds LOUT and REBT. i know the required settings for LOUT but dont know about REBT.
my client requiment is the rebate value has to get accumilated after processing the ARE1 in a specific G/L Account which helps in claiming at end of the year.
your help is much appreciable
Thanks in Advance
GanaHi
The configuration is similar to exports under bond(under claim for rebate you do not have to maintain bond in J1IBN01 - Create .
In excise invoice you have to choose export under no bond. Save It you will get a excise invoice. Prepare a ARE by J1IA101 enter the outgoing excise invoice no. Maintain all the required details.
Have u maintain and assigned account key in your pricing procedure for G/L account?
Regards
Sandeep Bhowmick -
Export under Bond/ No Bond
Hi All,
My client has scenarios like Exports under Bond and No Bond(Rebate Claim).
I have created separate pricing procedure for Exports, separate Distribution channel for exports and separate Series group for exports.
now my doubt is while configuring "Maintain Default Excise groups and series groups" system is not allowing me to create one for "B" and another one for "N"
For ex:
Sales Org+Dchnl+Division+Shipping point+ excise group+series group
1) 1000+ 10+20+600+ E1+A1 for Export under Bond "B"
2) 1000+10+20+600+E1+A1 for Export No Bond "N"
Please let me know whether I am missing anything??Hi
Thank you, but look my below screenshots,
1. For under Bond
2. When i create similar for No Bond , system showing me "
An entry already exists with the same key" -
Excise Duty posting in case of Export under Bond - in J1iin
Hi SAP CIN Gurus,
One of our client products has the following excise components during the Export
BED- Duty nill under Bond
Cess- Duty has to pay (No exempt)
Ed cess- payble only on Cess
She Cess- payble only on Cess
In SAP during the Export Excise Invoice (J1iin) Excise duty will not be posted when we select the Bound/LUT
And When I select NO bond and Post while creating ARE1 I will not get the Bound TAB so I cannot track the Bound at all.
How can I address this requirement?
Is there anyway tnat during excise invoice creation u2013under bound selection system should post the excise amount.
Pls help me resolve the issue
JeevanHi Amrish,,
Let me explain you through an example for the above mentioned scenario:
Say for example you have done 10 transaction on 01.01.2009 (By transaction here I mean complete one cycle) out of which 8 transaction is for domestic (Factory Sale) sales and 2 for export ( any export sale whether is BOND/NO BOND/LOUT).
Now while updating the RG1 (J1I5)register for issues (Here I assume you have updated the RG1 for reciepts using right classification ROP/RMA) if you have selected IDH and executed the transaction (F8) for the date 01.01.2009 you will have total 10 Material documents is displayed.Assuming if you have updated all the 10 transactions (including exports i.e 2 transaction). System will update all these transaction for domestic sales/factory sales.
Now If you go back again to J1I5 to update for export and select the Classification IWE/IWT/IWO and execute (F8). You will not be able to see any material documents to be updated. As all the documents are upated for factory sales.
For this it is always suggested to update the RG1 register on daily basis and upate the documents chosing right classifications.
FOR YOUR INFOMATION THERE IS NO CONTROL OF MATERIAL DOCUMENT THROUGH SELECTING CLASSIFICATION. SYSTEM WILL BRING ALL THE MATERIAL DOCUMENTS IRRESPECTIVE OF WHICH CLASSIFICATION YOU CHOOSE.
If you want to have control over while updating RG1 register.. You explore below user exit and write logic as per you requirement.
J_1I7_USEREXIT_J1I5_VALIDATE
J_1I7_USEREXIT_J1I5_MATFORM
Hope I am able answer your querry....!!!
Regards
MBS -
RG1 update in case of Export under bond Letter of Undertaking
Hi,
Kindly clarrify if we need to update the RG1 register in case of Export under bond . (Letter of Undertaking)
We are following below mentioned process steps :-
1. Sales order
2. Delivery
3. PGI
4. Commercial invoice
5. Excise Invoice
6. ARE1 document creation
Kindly provide the necessary process steps in details
Thanks & Regards,
Amrish PurohitHi Amrish,,
Let me explain you through an example for the above mentioned scenario:
Say for example you have done 10 transaction on 01.01.2009 (By transaction here I mean complete one cycle) out of which 8 transaction is for domestic (Factory Sale) sales and 2 for export ( any export sale whether is BOND/NO BOND/LOUT).
Now while updating the RG1 (J1I5)register for issues (Here I assume you have updated the RG1 for reciepts using right classification ROP/RMA) if you have selected IDH and executed the transaction (F8) for the date 01.01.2009 you will have total 10 Material documents is displayed.Assuming if you have updated all the 10 transactions (including exports i.e 2 transaction). System will update all these transaction for domestic sales/factory sales.
Now If you go back again to J1I5 to update for export and select the Classification IWE/IWT/IWO and execute (F8). You will not be able to see any material documents to be updated. As all the documents are upated for factory sales.
For this it is always suggested to update the RG1 register on daily basis and upate the documents chosing right classifications.
FOR YOUR INFOMATION THERE IS NO CONTROL OF MATERIAL DOCUMENT THROUGH SELECTING CLASSIFICATION. SYSTEM WILL BRING ALL THE MATERIAL DOCUMENTS IRRESPECTIVE OF WHICH CLASSIFICATION YOU CHOOSE.
If you want to have control over while updating RG1 register.. You explore below user exit and write logic as per you requirement.
J_1I7_USEREXIT_J1I5_VALIDATE
J_1I7_USEREXIT_J1I5_MATFORM
Hope I am able answer your querry....!!!
Regards
MBS -
Excise duty credit against customer in Export under Bond
Hi dude
In export under bond process, billing document acct determination document the excise duty + net value is showing against customer. Is it correct ? Please let me know the values credit in the billing document.
regards,
madhavHi,
In case of Export Sales Under Bond
The accounting entry is:
Customer Account Dr
Revenue (Exports Sales) Cr
In case of Export there is no accounting entries for excise bcoz of exemption of excise duties for export.
Only u have to create ARE1 for Export Sales.
Regards,
PM -
Export under bond / no bond / LUT
dear all,
we have separate sales org, a distribution channel for exports, and there are 5 divisions.
We have one excise group and I have created a separate series group for exports & domestic sales.
1. we have export under bond / no bond / LUT. how should I maintain default excise groups and series groups?
2. And also Please let me know whether in my export pricing procedure, should I maintain conditions for Excise duties?
Thanks & RegardsHello
Definately you have to excise conditions to ur Pricing procedure (But e.g. only JMOD for basic excise and not JEX2 as we do not want to post excise duty it is only for calculation as same has to reflected in ARE-1).
Cheers!!!!
Vineet Baweja -
ARE1 procedure for exports under bond.
Hi Sap Experts
I need some help on ARE1 flow,i am doing export sale.
So in first step i create OR>>PR>>PO(sto)>>Outbound delivery>>proforma>>Excise Invoice.
Before this i have created Bond on Port Plant.
so In excise invoice creation(j1iin) i am selecting Utilization and Local so i am getting option Bond/No Bond/Deemed/Lou.
But the problem here is Deemed is coming in blue,where actually Bond should come.
So Experts please though some light on this as i am doing this senario first time.
i want to know what is the procedure should follow both in trasaction and configuration wise for ARE1 .
I wish i could get Inputs from Experts
Thanks & RegardsDear
Goto SPRO
Logistics general
Tax on goods movements
India
Business Transactions
Outgoing excise invoices
Maintain default excise groups and series groups
In this you maintain the
sales area
shipping point
Plant
Excise group
Series group for your requirement and assign export under bond here.
Then your requirement will satisfy. Now here assigned 'Deemed',so it comes blue in J1IIN. Change this to 'Export under bond', then in J1IIN bond will be in blue.
Please note, change only the required one, not all.
For ARE-1 creation do you have any addon module for SAP?
Regards
Deepu Pillai
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