Extend Profit center validity periods

Hi All,
I have a requirement to extend the Profit centers validity period. for example I have created the Profit center with validity date from 01.01.2010 to 31.12.9999. I have loaded the data with these dates, there is no issue in this. I have new requirement to change some data from 01.07.2010 to 31.12.9999 for the same above profit center. Is there any procedure to extend the validatity dates like that. Please let me know if there is any procedure available.
Thanks,
Satheesh

Eyal,
I know of no other way to accomplish this than to re-execute the consolidation for the prior periods after the hierarchy has been changed.
I have used the restatement feature and like you have found it very limited.
The copy to another version would only work if you copied the existing data to the new version before re-executing the consolidation. The the version 100 can be re-consolidated for the previous periods and the existing reports do not have to be changed for a new version.
However, with the copy, it is important to set the cons group and cons unit hierarchies to be version dependent so the changes are only good for the version that is to be re-consolidated for previous periods. This allows you to report on the data before the change where the logic will read the old, unchanged version of the hierarchy.
Dan

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The desired profit center 1000 is not in the master data table for the specified date.
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Check your entry.
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> This is the problem related to Profit Center
> Accounting, as you know some of the disadvantages of
> profit center, now i am facing the problem is that
> some of my accounts like Bank A/c's, Payable A/c's
> and some clearing accounts are not matching with GL
> accounts. how to tally these accounts, is there any
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> how to transfer the amount in dummy Profit Center to
> original Profit Center by way of reconcillation.
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