FCP 3 TO FCP 5

I am planning to buy a new Dual-core 2GHz PowerPC G5 and just found out that I won't be able to use FCP 3. Can I upgrade from FCP 3 to FCP 5, and how much will that cost me ?
Thank you,
Nelson

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Shane's Stock Answer #29
You either need to either:
1) use the following hack -
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/feedback/finalcut_pro_on_oldmacs.html
or
2) Upgrade to FCP 5
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302667
Shane

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I opened up a new project in FCP and imported a large still (TIFF pixel dimentions:2880 X 1920). I created a new sequence and then placed the clip of the still frame in the timeline. I then SEND TO -->MOTION PROJECT and embed it so that it feedsback any changes to FCP automatically. Now in MOTION I select the layer with the still image and REPLICATE so that there are 50 copies of the same obeject arranged in a stack and then adjust the scale so that the topmost object has a scale close to zero and the last object has a scale around 350%. Lastly I add a attract to behavior so that the objects become animated and kind of look like a warping vortex. Theres also a mask thrown in somewhere. So that's it:1 large still, 1 replicator, 1 behavior, 1 mask, 2 layers for about 60 seconds. Everything in Motion moves fine. I think the playback stutters a little and it does drop a couple of frames, but I get the main idea and I can monitor in real time on an external monitor. I save and then move back to FCP. Back in FCP things slow way down. It takes FCP about three minutes just to get back up to speed and display the current playhead frame. I cannot playback the clip at all because the program just kind of hangs and is not responsive at all. I have tried using QT Conversion with this clip and tried to Export to IPOD. It estimated 15 hours to do the job. A MPEG 2 export using COMPRESSOR with all settings on best and highest took 24 hours to complete. That's around 45 minutes per frame!!
Can someone detail the actual specifics of how motion and fcp differ in accessing/reading data and then how compression actually works as well?
Any takers?
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Thanks for the tip Patrick.
The scary thing is that I've already checked out that material. I obviously need to re-read it(maybe a couple of times). The nuts and bolts section spells out really the ins and out of Motion and the way it is hardware based and and GPU dependent. I understand that it was overkill. I get that. I'm definitely looking at this as a how can I learn from my mistake angle, not a this computer *****, or this software is buggy angle.
It might sound worse than it actually was (for Motion that is). Motion was totally functional accessing and modifying the clip. I could add a MIDI behavior and modify the scale of the layer or object. It was a little slow but it was responsive. FCP on the other hand is where I ate dirt. Not only in the compression stage but also just playback. Like I mentioned before after modifying and saving the embedded .motn clip in Motion and bouncing back to FCP it takes FCP about 3-5 minutes just to read and display the current frame. Before that the pointer just pinwheels. How is it that Motion is able to read the clip while FCP almost crashes trying to read one frame?
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HI ALL,
1) FCP for Scale-In the video will be unsharp ; Motion will be the best tool for Zoom-In (Scale-In)?
2) Say, Mastered/Edited video in FCP then send to Motion for further effects processing and now do the video be able to return to FCP after saved in Motion?
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GAH!! I just now realized what you were talking about with the camera zoom quote above.
I thought you actually meant a CAMERA's zoom!! No no no... in Motion, you can zoom in the virtual camera if you have something in 3D space created in Motion!! That's what that was talking about.
No... just 'zooming' in on a video won't be any better in FCP or in Motion whether you make it a 3d world or not.
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But then again... I've also scaled something a lot more and used it as an 'effect cut' if you grunge it up a bit and make it desaturated it can have a nice (though over used) effect on an interview. The grunging up hides the soft nature of the over-scale.
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Hi, FCS3...
i have 2 timelines in the same fcp project, I sent the first one to motion, added some titles/graphics, saved in motion and upon returning to fcp the changes were present, only requiring render.
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Are you making sure that "embed Motion project" is checked in the Send To dialog box every time?

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re-phrase;
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Fcp - stp- fcp

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I'm a software engineer and I know what a user error is and having a spinning wheel that never stops spinning with NO information ever provided to the user is MOST DEFINITELY NOT user error.
There are two basic approaches to managing user input:
1. Don't let them shoot themselves in the foot
2. If you do let them shoot themselves in the foot at least trap for it and let them know which foot they hit
Neither of these is happening in FCP 6. I don't see how you can equate a spinning wheel and FCP not responding to being "user error" -- simply because FCP has stopped responding (you have no way of knowing anything).
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But regardless of whether this is or isn't user error (which really is NOT relevant), no information is provide to help the user avoid the situation or even attempt to fix the situation. For what has cost me $1800 -- connecting to an external device/camcorder should NOT be a roll the dice situation.
$1300 FCS + upgrade to FCS2 $500 = about $1800 actually.
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