Fcp preset: pal 1024 x 576 anamorphic

Dear Great Experts.
Is there a preset in fcp for widescreen 16.9 anamorphic for pal? Or what elements would one incorporate for such a preset.
Broadcasting over the internet.
Greater details if needed:
I don't know much, but will tell you what i do know, and probably alot will be unnecessary to tell, but I would need to be more of an expert in this area to edit what I will be writing here...lol, thanks so much:
We make animations, or slide shows movies in After Effects in a 1024 x 576, Preset: Pal D1/DV Wide Screen Square Pixel, Pixel Aspect Ration: Square format.
Then render with output module settings in After Effect using: 'stretch' to 720 x 576, locked to 5.4 aspect, Pal D1/DV, which squishes the final movie horizontally, as you can see. This is to get, as I understand it, the anamorphic element needed (for the method in which it is broadcast, ie, thru Airbox and Octoshape).
Then it is compressed with Compressor: This setting unsquishes it horizontally putting it back into a 16.9 ration, but in a smaller size, 720 x 405, and makes it into a special type of mpeg 2 format which is called a 'program stream' for broadcasting over 'Airbox' which the viewer also has a choice of using 'octoshape' for viewing. This puts the video and audio together as 1 element.
Would like to bypass After Effects and just do movie in FCP with an output that will accomplish the above (see summary below too). I assume that the compression with Compressor will still be necessary to get the specialized mpeg 2 format need for the 'airbox' broadcasting.
Summary: Would like to produce a fcp output that allows for the 1024 x 576 size, pal widescreen, anamorphic and then can be compressed to the special mpeg 2 program stream which ends up with the 720 x 405 (16.9). Know how to make preset, just need to know what elements to incorporate for the preset.
Side Note: We are told we need to start out with the larger size of 1024 x 576 for better quality. Our video dept would prefer that we start out with HD size of 1920 x 1080 but our equipment cant process files that large, so video dept said ok to do the 1024 size.
Ok, Wow, if you are still with me, I thank you a million times over and wonder what you think?
Lots and lots of thanks dear ones,
With most sincere thanks,
Hope

Dear Nick,
Thank you for this timely response and explanation. Appreciate you taking the time to answer this.
Am using fcp 6.0.6
Are there certain settings that I could make/change to structure a custom preset to accomplish this?
Thanks again...
Hope

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