Fcp3 to dv tape problem
Using my Canon xl1 as a tape deck, I am trying to record from my timeline to DV tape but not picking up anything on the tape. Set up as follows: Firewire direct to computer (will log and capture from a test tape), external video on & all frames, set to output video (DV-NTSC), Canon set to vcr mode, timeline clean-no in out points. Hit record, timeline puts out on monitor and nothing on the DV! Restarted computer-just in case. Any ideas? Done it in the past, no problem. Missed something?
Do you have an external monitor attached to the a/dv pass through on the Canon? You should. This will show you if the video is making it out.
Do you have ANY other firewire devices on this firewire bus? Hard drives, Canopus converters, etc?
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Message was edited by: helpineedHi(Bonjour)!
What version of FCE, MAC OS, Quicktime ?
What king of material do you capture, standard def DV, HDV ?
May be it's a timecode break. Did you play this tape portion on camcorder itself to see if there is a gap between the last shot and the next one?
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ThanksCody,
I have a Z7 which should operate pretty much like the FX1. I did this about a month ago and remember struggling with it. Here are my notes, which may or may not help. It is only vague in my mind at the moment, sorry.
1. I am pretty sure when editing I had Render Control set to ProRes, as you do. When I did print to video, I copied my whole sequence, then put it into a new HDV sequence where the render was set to HDV. This took a long time--2:1 on my MacPro Dual 3GHz. I also have starred here--"When copy to HDV sequence, check titles/etc to make sure aspect ration still OK."
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PTV with the "Different settings" box checked and have this be HDV (1440x1080i60). That may have had to do with the fact I was using the MXO and monitoring with a second monitor. May not apply to you. I also see the note "Playback HAD been set to none".
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Hi all,
I am trying to edit to tape going form FCP 504 to a Sony DSR 45 DVCam deck. There seems to be no problems going to the SP Deck, however if I enter the in-point (as per manual) in the master mode edit to tape window, and then drag the sequence over, nothing seems to happen. I thought this may have somethign to do with the "insert timecode" button, which seems to remain yellow all the time... is this switched on or off? Either way I couldn't get it to change state.
I have striped the tape at hour 10:00:00:00. The mastering window never seems to calculate the running time when hooked up to the Sony DSR deck, so I guess its just not seeing the sequence.
For a while I did seem to progress but got a message to the effect that the deck was not in the right "mode" what ever that means. I have looked extensively in the settings for the deck but cannot see anything, I have also tried various different output settings and still no luck. The RS422 seems fine controlling the deck in non edit to tape mode, so I just cannot figure this out.
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Thanks for your help, however please do suggest any reasons behind why only this set up works for me. I'd love to know whats going on for future problem solving.
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Message was edited by: Napoléon23Another thought... capture a short clip in imovie, and see if it can record back to one of the cameras... if it does, that sort of rules out a hardware problem. I'd trash the preferences in any case. Just because it's a new install it doesn't mean they aren't corrupt.
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2) Your camcorder is equipped with a dubbing feature and, for some reason, the audio is configured to record to channels 3 and 4 rather than 1 and 2.
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https://discussions.apple.com/message/18162183?tstart=0#18162183?tstart=0
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