FCPx - McPro Performace Frustration

I'm frustrated. I have what was supposed to be the perfect - or near perfect - FCP set-up. I have a new 8 core MacPro with 32 gigs of ram. I have a G-Tech thunderbolt 4TB raid with 3.5 TB free space and a 27in thunderbolt display.
FCP is almost always slow, sluggish, quirky, hesitant, unpredictable and crashes quite ofter in the middle of editing. I will often get a beachball that hangs or one I have to wait 15 seconds for. When I click on something to drag or move, often I get a beachball for a few seconds before I can continue. When I grab something, often there's a delay before anything moves. Sometimes it gets to the point that EVERY click brings a beachball.
I've dumped the program and re-installed. I trash prefs sometimes or re-start FCP to speed things up a bit, but it doesn't last. Any background task slows the system down a lot, even dropping a title over a track will slow things until the title renders, then if you move it a bit, you're in trouble again.
Does everyone else fly through their project with the kind of speed they show in the demos? How did they ever cut that entire feature on FCP if this is the way a top-of-the-line system handles a simple corporate video?
I have a lovely woman in pro-app tech support working with me to try to figure this out, but meanwhile, I seem to be stuck with a $7,500 editing system that feels like I'm on my old G5 with FinalCut 4.
I guess the question here is, Am I the only one?

Rick,
I am really sorry to hear about the problems that you are having with your new Mac Pro and FCP X, but I want to assure you that they are not typical.  I have had a fully maxed out Mac Pro since mid-January of 2014. My Mac Pro is connected to an Pegasus 2 R6 raid 5 array and a Drobo 5D raid 5.  I am using an Asus 32 in. 4K display connected via Thunderbolt 2 to my Mac Pro.  I have edited many many projects on this system, and I have never experienced the kind of problems that you are reporting.  Currently I am working on a project that has three streams of 4K video and audio from an external recorder.  This is a very demanding projects with lots of effects, transition, titles, etc.  I have already spent 20 hours working on this project with only one crash of FCP and this was using a plugin that probably caused the crash. That was the first crash of FCP X that I have experienced in over a year of nearly constant use of FCP X on this Mac Pro.  In short, I have found FCP X to be a fantastic editing system when paired with the Late 2013 Mac Pro.
The constantly spinning beach balls and crashes you are experiencing may indicate that you have a problem with the RAM in your MacPro.  Have you taken your Mac Pro in to Apple for a though examination?  I believe you are experiencing a hardware problem of some type and Apple should be able to solve it for you.  Please do accept my best wishes for a successful solution to your issue(s), and do let us know if you get it resolved.
Tom

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    OS Version:      10.9.4 (Build 13E28)
    Architecture:    x86_64
    Report Version:  18
    Command:         Final Cut Pro
    Path:            /Applications/Final Cut Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Final Cut Pro
    Version:         10.1.2 (249514)
    Build Version:   1
    Project Name:    ProEditor
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                                                                                                                             1  -[NSObject(NSKeyValueObserverNotification) didChangeValueForKey:withSetMutation:usingObjects:] + 118 (Foundation) [0x7fff82410e32]
                                                                                                                               1  NSKeyValueDidChange + 453 (Foundation) [0x7fff8237b0f8]
                                                                                                                                 1  NSKeyValueNotifyObserver + 387 (Foundation) [0x7fff8237bf28]
                                                                                                                                   1  -[NSManagedObject(_NSInternalMethods) _didChangeValue:forRelationship:named:withInverse:] + 610 (CoreData) [0x7fff86053f02]
                                                                                                                                     1  -[NSManagedObject(_NSInternalMethods) _maintainInverseRelationship:forProperty:forChange:onSet:] + 281 (CoreData) [0x7fff86055259]
                                                                                                                                       1  -[NSManagedObject(_NSInternalMethods) _maintainInverseRelationship:forProperty:oldDestination:newDestination:] + 263 (CoreData) [0x7fff86054477]
                                                                                                                                         1  -[NSManagedObject(_NSInternalMethods) _excludeObject:fromPropertyWithKey:andIndex:] + 328 (CoreData) [0x7fff8605bdd8]
                                                                                                                                           1  -[_NSFaultingMutableSet containsObject:] + 26 (CoreData) [0x7fff860606da]
                                                                                                                                             1  -[_NSFaultingMutableSet willRead] + 217 (CoreData) [0x7fff86062bd9]
                                                                                                                                               1  -[NSFaultHandler retainedFulfillAggregateFaultForObject:andRelationship:withContext:] + 572 (CoreData) [0x7fff8606320c]
                                                                                                                                                 1  -[NSSQLCore newValueForRelationship:forObjectWithID:withContext:error:] + 640 (CoreData) [0x7fff86063630]
                                                                                                                                                   1  -[NSSQLCore newFetchedPKsForSourceID:andRelationship:] + 1938 (CoreData) [0x7fff86064252]
                                                                                                                                                     1  newFetchedRowsForFetchPlan_MT + 1216 (CoreData) [0x7fff86026fd0]
                                                                                                                                                       1  -[NSSQLiteConnection execute] + 2040 (CoreData) [0x7fff8600c658]
                                                                                                                                                         1  _execute + 214 (CoreData) [0x7fff8600c9a6]
                                                                                                                                                           1  sqlite3_step + 666 (libsqlite3.dylib) [0x7fff8922640a]
                                                                                                                                                             1  moveToChild + 144 (libsqlite3.dylib) [0x7fff89239980]
                                                                                                                                                               1  <executing in user space>
                                                                                                           2  DeleteObject(DSCollection*, bool) + 449 (DeepSkyLite) [0x10fd4fb27]
                                                                                                             2  _sharedIMPL_removeObjectFromSet_core + 244 (CoreData) [0x7fff861123e4]
                                                                                                               2  _PF_ManagedObject_DidChangeValueForKeywithSetMutation + 47 (CoreData) [0x7fff860550ef]
                                                                                                                 2  -[NSObject(NSKeyValueObserverNotification) didChangeValueForKey:withSetMutation:usingObjects:] + 118 (Foundation) [0x7fff82410e32]
                                                                                                                   2  NSKeyValueDidChange + 453 (Foundation) [0x7fff8237b0f8]
                                                                                                                     2  NSKeyValueNotifyObserver + 387 (Foundation) [0x7fff8237bf28]
                                                                                                                       2  -[NSManagedObject(_NSInternalMethods) _didChangeValue:forRelationship:named:withInverse:] + 610 (CoreData) [0x7fff86053f02]
                                                                                                                         2  -[NSManagedObject(_NSInternalMethods) _maintainInverseRelationship:forProperty:forChange:onSet:] + 281 (CoreData) [0x7fff86055259]
                                                                                                                           2  -[NSManagedObject(_NSInternalMethods) _maintainInverseRelationship:forProperty:oldDestination:newDestination:] + 263 (CoreData) [0x7fff86054477]
                                                                                                                             2  -[NSManagedObject(_NSInternalMethods) _excludeObject:fromPropertyWithKey:andIndex:] + 328 (CoreData) [0x7fff8605bdd8]
                                                                                                                               2  -[_NSFaultingMutableSet containsObject:] + 26 (CoreData) [0x7fff860606da]
                                                                                                                                 2  -[_NSFaultingMutableSet willRead] + 217 (CoreData) [0x7fff86062bd9]
                                                                                                                                   2  -[NSFaultHandler retainedFulfillAggregateFaultForObject:andRelationship:withContext:] + 572 (CoreData) [0x7fff8606320c]
                                                                                                                                     2  -[NSSQLCore newValueForRelationship:forObjectWithID:withContext:error:] + 640 (CoreData) [0x7fff86063630]
                                                                                                                                       2  -[NSSQLCore newFetchedPKsForSourceID:andRelationship:] + 1938 (CoreData) [0x7fff86064252]
                                                                                                                                         1  newFetchedRowsForFetchPlan_MT + 1216 (CoreData) [0x7fff86026fd0]
                                                                                                                                           1  -[NSSQLiteConnection execute] + 2040 (CoreData) [0x7fff8600c658]
                                                                                                                                             1  _execute + 214 (CoreData) [0x7fff8600c9a6]
                                                                                                                                               1  sqlite3_step + 666 (libsqlite3.dylib) [0x7fff8922640a]
                                                                                                                                                 1  sqlite3VdbeExec + 61320 (libsqlite3.dylib) [0x7fff892363d8]
                                                                                                                                                   1  <executing in user space>
                                                                                                                                         1  newFetchedRowsForFetchPlan_MT + 1640 (CoreData) [0x7fff86027178]
                                                                                                                                           1  -[NSSQLiteConnection fetchResultSet:usingFetchPlan:] + 1930 (CoreData) [0x7fff8601f61a]
                                                                                                                                             1  _execute + 214 (CoreData) [0x7fff8600c9a6]
                                                                                                                                               1  sqlite3_step + 666 (libsqlite3.dylib) [0x7fff8922640a]
                                                                                                                                                 1  sqlite3VdbeExec + 41395 (libsqlite3.dylib) [0x7fff89231603]
                                                                                                                                                   1  sqlite3VdbeCursorMoveto + 21 (libsqlite3.dylib) [0x7fff89239995]
                                                                                                                                                     1  <executing in user space>
                                                                                                         1  DeleteObject(DSCollection*, bool) + 449 (DeepSkyLite) [0x10fd4fb27]
                                                                                                           1  _sharedIMPL_removeObjectFromSet_core + 244 (CoreData) [0x7fff861123e4]
                                                                                                             1  _PF_ManagedObject_DidChangeValueForKeywithSetMutation + 47 (CoreData) [0x7fff860550ef]
                                                                                                               1  -[NSObject(NSKeyValueObserverNotification) didChangeValueForKey:withSetMutation:usingObjects:] + 118 (Foundation) [0x7fff82410e32]
                                                                                                                 1  NSKeyValueDidChange + 453 (Foundation) [0x7fff8237b0f8]
                                                                                                                   1  NSKeyValueNotifyObserver + 387 (Foundation) [0x7fff8237bf28]
                                                                                                                     1  -[NSManagedObject(_NSInternalMethods) _didChangeValue:forRelationship:named:withInverse:] + 610 (CoreData) [0x7fff86053f02]
                              

    Hi Russ,
    Thanks.
    I think I follow... only... I can't open the Library to get to the projects that I'd want to move to a new library...
    I can open all Libraries except the one containing my film.
    I've been trying to figure out how to place the inaccessible projects (film scenes) into a new library WITHOUT opening FCPX.
    FYI, when I tried to open backups (from dates when I'd had no problems closing/re-opening the Library in question) everything seems fine (i.e., my projects/scene seem to be read easily) until I get to the FILM.fcpbundle. Once this enters the mix, FCPX crashes.
    Thanks again.
    Appreciated!
    Cat

  • My positive experience with FCPX.

    In an effort to present the other side of the coin on this forum, that FCPX can work very well, here is my story.
    For the last 8 years I've been using Final Cut Express on an older Macs. It worked fine for my various projects, although the incessant rendering would be very frustrating. (I never did find the proper format to prevent it.) When Final Cut Pro X was released, I read about it's shortcomings, so I passed.
    Five months ago I was planning to video my nephew's wedding so I looked closely at Final Cut Pro X, but was very daunted by how completely different it was from FCE. A few days later I was in my local Apple Store asking their video expert about the rendering in FCE, basically he said to get FCPX, which not only handles many formats, but renders in the background when needed, and has a lot more features than FCE.
    I went home and looked at my first FCPX tutorial online and thought, OK, it looks like I'm going to have to start from scratch to learn it. My MacBook Pro was going on 6 years old, so I also decided to buy a new one that could handle FCPX. I had to stay on Snow Leopard OS 10.6.8 for one vitally important application that was not being upgraded, so I went to the Apple refurb site and found a 17" 2.2Ghz i7 late 2011 that fit the bill (I wanted the ExpressCard slot), marked down from $2600 to $1900, I grabbed it.
    I immediately installed 16 GB of RAM, and replaced the internal drive with the one in my old laptop, a fairly new Seagate XT Hybrid 750 GB/16 GB HD/SSD. I then bought FCPX. (After completing one small project, I actually replaced the 750 hybrid with an OWC 960 GB dual platter RAID 0 internal SSD, wow, is it fast. I work my current project there, then when complete, move it to the 750 hybrid or a 3 TB I put in a Seagate GoFlex Thunderbolt adapter .)
    I have to admit that it took me a couple of days to let go of FCE and get used to the FCPX Events/Projects system, but I got through it. I did look at tutorials, but actually learned far more by exploring the menus, panes and icons, experimenting, trial and error, and reading this forum.
    I finished the wedding video (32 minutes long) in about a week (learning as I went). It was shot with one camera, which forced me to do some creative editing by lifting, moving and zooming various pieces (and cutting around a very oblivious professional photographer), which gave me a multi-camera look. I added a title, transitions, adjusted dark scenes, leveled the audio in many places, diminished airplane and wind noise, and dropped in a sound effect of my nephew breaking a glass under foot (which did not actually break at the time).
    I shared the wedding video to my AppleTV2, and to DVD (3 copies), and to YouTube, without any overt problems. Yes, each operation had it's learning curve, but I accomplished them all in a rather short time. The first time I uploaded it to YouTube, it took about 8 hours for a 1080 2.8 GB version, but when it was done, the YouTube site had a message that it was too long, I had to register to have longer than 15 minute videos. I then used FCPX to upload a 720 version (the actual original format), 985MB, which took about 2 hours (even with a 1 mbps upload internet service). It looks great via the YouTube app on my AppleTV2.
    The only overt problem I have is a crash once in awhile either at launch or very shortly after, but I delete the prefs and continue on. I also installed some free plugins that seemed to cause some crashing, so I removed them, but the next time I opened the wedding project, I had all kinds of warning triangles. Turned out I used some of the plugins and FCPX warned that they were missing. It took a few minutes of searching this forum to learn how to get rid of those effects, I didn't even have to ask anyone.
    I just bought two new 1080p AVCHD video cameras and really look forward to using them for a festival on Sunday where I'm playing with a ukulele orchestra (which I also took up a few months ago). I'm going to tackle the multicam operations with that project (something I did in my own way with FCE, even though it did not actually have that function).
    My view of many of the posts on this forum is that either they have a system/hardware problem outside of FCPX, or they do not make enough of an effort to learn and understand FCPX. It takes diligence and patience, which in my experience, really does pay off. I used to dread doing tweaks in FCE, now I look forward to it in FCPX.

    I'd just like to add my positive-ness with FCPX! I've used it from 10.0.1 and, since 0.3, I have loved it and raved about it when anyone asks. The multicam feature is amazing! I used to use Vegas MS for some casual editing and the biggest annoyance with FCPX at the start was the magnetic timeline but after a day or so I got used to it and now can't imagine using anything else. I've had the odd crash but they are few and far between. I won't say I haven't sworn at it a few times but the fault is usually mine in the end!
    I use an upgraded 2012 MacBook Pro with 16GB memory and a Seagate Hybrid XT disc for my more "beefy" projects but I've found my 2011 MacBook Air works great with smaller projects (4GB RAM and 256GB SSD). Interesting article on fcp.co about MBAs and FCPX if anyone is considering purchasing one.
    I tend to learn things as I go along; I know what I want to achieve and then work out how to get there, often with the help of the nice people in this forum . With FCPX, once you understand the basic structure it's not too difficult.
    It seems one of the common themes is problems with importing AVCHD / MTS files. Since 0.3 I've never had any problems as long as I follow my basic rules -
    Format the SD card in the camera just before use (use "low level" if offered for the first format) and shoot your footage. Use the same quality format on that card throughout the shoot.
    Remove the card and plug it into the computer's card reader. Do NOT interfere with or modify the files in Finder in any way!
    In FCPX create an archive from the card on a separate external disc. (If the card doesn't show up then try another card reader - there can be differences in USB chipset implementations).
    Import to the events from the archive. Once done, repeat from 1.
    Phil

  • FCPX 10.0.7 hangs when loading multiple projects - a non-destructive work around

    FCPX 10.0.7 hangs when loading multiple projects - a non-destructive work around....
    Hi Guys, I upgraded from FCPX 10.0.6 to 10.0.78 and discovered to my immense frustration that many of my 100+ FCPX projects would not load.
    Symptom:
    FCPX 10.0.7 appears to hang ("spinning beachball") with either high CPU% on a single core or  with 1-2% CPU busy (activity monitor.app) when a FINAL CUT PROJECT is selected. No logs error information in /var/logs ..hmm
    notices that the "status circle" spins around endlessly.
    Actvity Monitor.app shows "Final Cut Pro (Not Responding)
    and also I notice in some cases that an OEM filter ("NEAT VIDEO NOISE REDUCTION") is in progress to be loaded. FCPX V10.0.7 must be FORCED QUITtted to remove it from system.
    History: Upgraded FCPX from V10.0.6 to V10.0.07.
    "FINAL CUT EVENTS" and "FINAL CUT PROJECTS" on a single file system on SAS 16TB disk array (768MB/sec read via AJA system test) and 60% utilised capacity… FCP EVENTS has 400 events in it .. some 5.2TB of Prores essence etc .. all works fine! (i.e. the storage system is first class and is NOT the issue)
    32GB of RAM on MAC PRO 2009 Nehalem 16 x Vcore with ATI 5780 card and ATTO HBA's (i.e. plenty of resources!)
    As usual with any "upgrade" to FCPX 10.0.? all the EVENT objects need to be upgraded. In my case this takes an hour or two.. so I do that when asleep.
    After experiencing above, I restored the FCPX EVENTS LIbrary of that file system from LTO4 tape archive (BRU-PE ) and still had the same issues as above.
    WORKAROUND:
    FORCEd QUIT FCPX V10.0.7
    RENAMEd "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects" to "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects_original"
    created (make) a new "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects" (use finder)
    For each project !!! in "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects_original", (do one project at a time!!!)
    MOVE "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects_original/one_fcpx_projext_nnnn_folder" to "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects"
    Make sure you move ONLY one project at a time. If you have a subfolder of projects, please do each project one at a time (serially!)
    Launch FCPX V10.0.7 and BE PATIENT!!! .. DONT click or fiddle with the UI.. it seems when you intervene it locks up as well…
    Let FCPX V10.0.7 settle….
    select the project you just added above  and RELINK any objects it needs. Thumbnails and proxies will be rendered again.. just be patient
    wait until ALL the rendering as stopped.
    QUIT FCPX V10.0.7
    (now if FCPX locks up, just force it out and start again as above).
    repeat for all projects in "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects_original" (go to step 4 ad do until all projects moved)
    When all is COMPLETED MAKE SURE YOU ARCHIVE an instance (or make a backup ) of "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects"
    If this procedure has worked the folder "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects_original" will have zero (nill, none) projects in it.
    I have managed to restore ALL my  "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects" this xmas between drinking etc. I'm satisfied that its all ok.
    Other issues:
    use DISK WARRIOR or TT PRO 6 to make sure that the file system volume where your  "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects" are is physically ok. I noticed some entries in file system's  volume table that represented objects in  "/volumes/some_file_system_volume/Final Cut Projects" were at fault when I used these utilities… FWIW.
    SUMMARY: yes this took ages to d, however luckily I had everything in at least 3 instances in an archive which has saved me many time in the old FCP& and prior days… it was just a matter of time to put it back together.
    I put this outage down to may be my own impatience when I first fired up FCPX 10.0.7 after the upgrade.
    I'm interested if this workaround is helpful to others and in addtiion if others have a more satisfactory remedy.
    HTH
    warwick
    Hong Kong

    Hi Eb, yeah I could not see any "memory leak" or unusual consumption of REAL memory whose less availability would cause excessive PAGEing and SWAPping as seen in the Activty Monitor.app
    I watch this carefully especially the use of REAL MEMORY by 3rd Paryy apps. BTW there are a few that cause ALLOCATED but NOT USED memory (blue in the A.M.app UI). Simply a unix PURGE command can release that memory and help clean up the PAGE and VM swap files (its alleged!).
    Yes, you may be might with the element of "Luck" involved. I would add though, that having MULTIPLE project displaying in the STORYLINE window and loading always caused my FCP 10.0.7 jam up at startup with h symtoms and observations I described.
    TIP: I might also add that for a super speedy launch of FCPX one may also emply setting each PROJECT's UI to show only AUDIO thus negating the need to contstruct or reneder out a PREVIEW ui in each clip in the storyline.
    Your/Apples  suggestion of the movememt (rename) of "Final Cut Pro Projects" to "Final Cut Pro Projects Hidden" is similar to what I proposed above to stop FCPX 10.0.7 accessing and building it up at startup. This workaround has been useful inthe past as well.
    ALso one might also get the stick out and remove (delete/rm) the ~/Library/Saved Application State/com.apple.FinalCut.savedState in one's home ~/Library so that FCPX wont do such a neat job reinstating FCPX last time you crashed it... This has been helpful also in diagnosing my issues.
    Lastly I have noticed that:
    impatience clicking on the FCPX UI when in the unstable state causes it to lock up with NO visible CPU% busy.... as if its waiting on something which is usually me MEMTERMing it via FORCE QUIT and
    the projects where I have employed the NEAT VIDEO Noise Reduction OEM filter for FCPX seem to exasserbate the PROJECT loading issues when several PROJECTS are available at FCPX startup time.
    As of yesterday I have some 400+ EVENTS Final Cut Pro Events and 130+ projects of varying compexites in a single file system on Final Cut Pro Projects all working fine and as good as gold again!
    Oh and one more thing, I had to RE-RENDER many projects of them again... strange as the FCP PROJECT library was renstated from a recent LTO archive as of V10.0.6 FCPX.. strange that...I would have expected if the projects and events were 10.0.6/7 compatable as proposed by Tom, that this would not be necessary... hmm straneg that
    I'll monitor this thread.
    Thanks for your comments lads!

  • What is the ideal RAID 5 logical drive configuration to use with editing 1080p on FCPX?

    Hello,
    I invested in one of the new Late 2013 Mac Pros (8-core 3GHz, dual Fire Pro D500 w/ 3GM VRAM each, 32GB RAM), along with a Promise Pegasus R6 Thunderbolt (ver 1) RAID because I wanted a fast and supremely smooth editing experience versus slow, laggy, drop frame performance I had been experienceing in my previous Mac (a mid-2010 27" iMac 2.8 GHz Quad-Core, 16GB RAM, Radeon 5750 with 1GB VRAM) that had media stored on a single 3TB firewire drive.
    The RAID came pre-configured with 6 x 1TB Toshiba drives giving me a Logical Drive that has 5TB capacity, 128kb stripe size, 512byte sector size, with Read Ahead/Write Back cache policy. I've also enabled "Forced Read Ahead" using terminal.
    THE PROBLEM:
    Even with this super fast media storage that gives me about 600MB/sec data transfer rate, I'm still sometimes experiencing lag and stuttered playback from the timeline (In all fairness, the stuttering only happens for a few seconds then plays fine, but the lag can be frustrating when I'm trying to click through the timeline to check edits). The footage I work with is 1080p mov files from Canon DSLR that are transcoded to ProRes 422 and Proxy during import into FCPX. I never edit with camera-native formats, always with ProRes. I also always close all other applications, eventhough all the power boasted by the Mac Pro shouldn't have a problem with that. I've tested the video cards by playing multiple 1080p H.264 files at once and it played about 10 simultaneously without a hitch. I've also edited under a new user and still the issue remains. My conclusion is that the lag comes from the RAID. (I did a test project with having my library saved on the internal flash storage and editing improved dramatically with speed and responsiveness, which signals that my problem must lie with the RAID).
    THE QUESTION:
    Is there a preferred or recommended stripe size and sector size that would cure my problem? Is it because it's RAID 5 even though I'm using 6 disks and getting tremendous sustained data xfer rates?
    OTHER RELATED INFO:
    My FCPX import settings copies all files into the library and I have Optimized and Proxy checked. My projects are also saved in the same library so everything is contained in one place.
    My projects are mostly 40 minute wedding videos 1080p at 23.98fps with lots of short video clips during montage segments, no more than 2 video tracks during the wedding the wedding ceremony.
    I frequenly repair permissions on the internal boot drive. Sometimes trash FCPX preferences when performance gets ridiculous or other glitches happen, like audio refusing to play, or the timeline plays no video just audio.
    Thank you! Any help or advice is appreciated!

    Hi,
    Making our tablespace in different directory does not improve the performance. See, Basic thing does if you are lauching your text file from different directory
    say Drives C , D and F respectively does your hit any performance (your OS is installed on Drive C). I don't thinnk you will getany boost up performance. See Basicaltl what is happening is that, try to launch you textpad and try to open the files from any there then you file will open immediately, if you ask me the reason behind that, you application is already loaded in the Memory to give the Service (same as ORACLE Instance). That's the difference.
    - Pavan Kumar N

  • Trying to update FCPX but it says it's already installed but it isn't

    I am trying to update FCPX on one of our MacPro Tower (not trash can / Cylinder ) computers.
    It is running FXP X 10.1.x.
    When I try to download FCPX 10.2 from the App Store it says I already have it installed... IT ISN"T.
    I thought well maybe I need to reinstall OSX ...maybe that would help....
    so I tried to do that and I got an error message that I am not connected to the internet.
    I  AM... and its working fine.
    Both the WiFi and the Ethernet connections are fine.
    So I am not sure what is going on here.
    I am having trouble connecting to APPLE. for some reason.
    I am using my apple ID on several computers since I am the Administrator over these 4 Mac Pros and a MacBook Pro laptop.
    I am not having any issues except with this one computer for some reason.
    any ideas?

    Ok... I plugged my ethernet cable into a different connection on the wall... and I got through... however now it says that Apple can't find the Installation information about my computer and to contact apple care... my apple care has expired on this computer I'm pretty sure....
    this is getting pretty frustrating.

  • IMovie will not open a .mov file created in FCPX

    I am new to this group and to Mac so please excuse my ignorance.  I edited files in FCPX and "Shared" them with the default settings and they came up in Quicktime with no problems.
    I copy the files to an external drive for my client who has a 2 year old iMac running OSX Lion 10.7.5.  She only has audio in Quicktime player and cannot open in iMovie to edit.  She downloaded iMovie 9.0.9 and it still doesn't work.
    How can this be???  I am so frustrated having spent this muck money on the best Macbook Pro I could find along with the latest and greatest Final Cut and it won't even go back 2 years with the latest Quictime???  Sorry for the venting and I know I am new....help please!~

    BTW my client says that the info breakdown on the clips says:
    'component y'Cbcr 10-bit'

  • FCPX undo / auto save bugs + RAM Hog - Possible Fix?

    Hi there FCPX users,
    I have a 8-core 2010 Mac Pro with 16GB Ram and the stock GPU running Lion 10.7.2
    I have been using FCPX since day dot, and have been overall very pleased with its super fast work flow and realtime capabilities.
    I have completed over 100 3-4min edits with average project size of 50GB, and a bunch of wedding edits with approx 150-200GB project sizes. The issues I had with 10.0.0 - 10.0.1  were mainly FCPX quitting unexpectedly.
    And now on 10.0.2 I have expereinced the well known auto save / greyed out undo bug. I have gone through all the steps via apple care which included:
    Trashing the Prefs, repair permissions, check drive space / correct format, new user account and clean install of lion / Final Cut X.
    I am still experiencing this issue. So yesterday I purchased another 16GB Ram totaling now to 32GB Ram, and I monitor the RAM usage via "Free Memory".
    I Noticed that if my RAM is running low, I "free Memory" without quitting FCPX and continue to work as normal, and so far I have not yet experienced the issue again.
    Dont know if this is a temporary fix, but it has worked for an hour long edit (approx 6-7 hrs without restaeting FCPX).
    Also, I have noticed FCPX will eat up 16-20GB RAM quite easliy.
    Not sure if this problem is related to RAM...
    My 2 cents.

    You have to really be conscious when you start a new project and how and where you manage your footage.
    No one has complained more than I have about FCPX's quirky behaviors and it can be frustrating. I have worked with FCPX since day one, even tried to get a refund but couldn't. After using it for a while now, it is very easy to get used to how fast some elements are in editing and reviewing a lot a footage. But several things you have to make sure of that will keep the rendering speed up and less crashing happening.
    First make sure that you can see how much space you have on your drives by right clicking in the main window of you screen and make the necessary clicks form the drop down menu. Make sure any drives you have been doing projects with lately are hooked up and do a secure empty trash. Its cool to see how much space you regain. 2) make sure that FCPX, Motion and Compressor (if you have those are installed on your boot drive).
    3) Create a FCPX Projects folder on an external (FW800) with at least 75% of its drive space available if you do not have secondary drive installed in your computer. (Its very important to note that any drive you use for any aspect of editing should never be more 75% full, especially your boot drive.) This is where FCPX will log all of its operating files for all of your projects.
    4) Either copy  all of the other FCPX files from your main hard drive and paste then into the new folder you created. Then delete all of those files, as well as any Motion files too! (Do the same as you did for FCPX in the previous step)
    5) If you need to move all of your music files to another drive as well. If its iTunes, you will have to tell iTunes where to look for the new files and it will populate accordingly. This will free up a tremendous amount of space. Make sure to delete them form the main drive.
    6) Remove any junk programs form the boot drive (main) or move them to another drive if possible.
    7) Now do another secure empty trash and watch your drive space return.
    8) Now open up FCPX and make sure you only create projects on your new drive by clicking on that drive in the project window. Any older projects you can simply pull them to the other drive and you will be prompted on how to duplicate that project and all its files to that drive. Delete the other ones.
    9) Only capture footage to you external drives. Save it there until you need it.
    10) Create all new projects on the secondary drive and pull any footage you are working with on that drive as well. By keeping it all off the Boot drive FCPX will run much smoother and faster, especially if you have at least 16g of Ram, which I recommend.
    So to re-cap:
    1. Keep your boot drive lean. Delete anything you can move to another drive. Do not set up events and or projects to it...never!!!
    2 Use you secondary drive for your project files and the video you are working with in your events.
    3. Store raw footage on a FW800 drive ready to move to your secondary drive.
    4. Use secure empty trash after all editing sessions when you are certain of your trash contents.
    Doing these things have greatly increased much more consistently faster render times and much fewer crashes.
    iMac 27  -  3.5gh  - 16GB Ram  -  Quad i7  -  250SSD/1TBesata  -  External FW800 Drives
    Good Luck

  • Why is FCPX freezing repeatedly while moving title clips?

    Hello to all.
    I am facing an exasperating situation. I am at the tag end of a project and I find that FCPX is freezing whenever I try to relocate a title. Have been forcrd to repeatedly force quit! Have trashed the preferences repeatedly, have restarted and even shut down the computer, have deleted thumbnail data, but, FCPX refuses to work.
    Have read other posts in which one gentleman facing a similar problem was able to shift his titles with the inspector window closed. In my case, his method of surmounting the problem has not worked.
    Right now I am minded to do this:
    open FCPX once again, delete the existing titles, accurately place new titles and renter the text. Shall let you know the progress.
    Until then, if there is some useful input in this totally frustrating matter, I would be too happy to lap it up!
    Thanks in advance.

    An update.
    I have done this: copy the 'problematic' section of the project into a new project and have tried to edit the title clips in the new project...but this too was not of help.
    I noticed that the FCPX would freeze only when a playback is attempted with the clip selected. But it would not whimper were I to move the clips, extend or shorten them.
    Upon this realisation, making a 'crude' assessment based upon the audio waveforms, I did my 'rough' editing of the titles...and, the finished work appeared 'decent' enough. The flaws would be certainly noticed by seasoned viewers.
    While pondering over this matter, I have this hunch that this erratic behavior of FCPX could have been triggered by my doing this: I had need of placing many titles in the project, and all of the text had to be given [almost] the same size fonts, tracking, face color, outline color and width. I had in an earlier thread asked whether there was any shortcut by which one could get all these parameters into the text without having need to edit each title individually. In that thread I learnt that one needed to do such a 'custom title' in Motion, which I do not have. In a moment of 'carelessness', acting against my better judgment, I did this 'easy' way of gettting things done: copy one title which had been editied and paste it at the required spot on the timeline; this done, I would delete the earlier text and replace it with the new one.
    I guess that resorting to this 'easy shortcut' had forced me  to take the 'hard long route'!
    Whether this 'logic' of mine regarding the origin of the problem is correct or not, I sincerely hope that Apple would give its fans the happiness of easily adding preset parameters such as font size, face color, outline color and width etc. to one's text from within FCPX itself.
    I would also like to hear from other forum members regarding this seriuos matter. From other posts I understand that I am not unique in facing this problem but others too have faced it. For those to whom videomaking is a hobby [I am not one of them], having to face or pass through this kind of problem may not affect their careers adversely, but for those who are professionals [I am not one of them!], whose livelihoods and reputations are at stake, facing this problem would be the equivalent of smelling one's goose being cooked!
    I would also like the reader viewing this post to view this short video which has given me so much trouble:
    http://youtu.be/9niDagLrf4I

  • Fonts get switched between FCPX and Compressor

    I edit my video, make some simple intro and outro titles with specific fonts (Gill Sans, Adobe Garamond Pro) and although the fonts look fine in Final Cut Pro X when I send the video to Compressor 4 FCPX swaps out the fonts. It's driving me nuts.
    I've run Font Book and verified the fonts and they pass. I've done the share to Compressor twice and both times it swapped out the fonts, each time for different fonts.
    Anyone have this problem or have a solution?
    The video I'm editing hasn't been brought in and optimized, it's H.264 video in place, no audio. Very frustrating.
    Here's a link to the video, you can see three different types of fonts due to the fonts being lost between FCPX and C4. http://www.hawaii247.com/?p=56608

    I spoke with Apple Tech support, the first line told me if I had Adobe CS 5 installed on my system it would break the fonts, and suggested I create a new user, install fcpx under that user, and do my editing from there.  I asked to have the case escalated.
    The second line tech support indicated they have had no reports of this issue, however he was able to duplicate the problem 100% of the time using his "clean system" running Snow Leopard. He said he woulde further escalate the bug to the engineers.
    As as work around he suggested I creat all titles in motion (alpha chanel only) and then bring into fcpx as a .mov file. Great, I only have a few hundred titles..
    I suggest every user that is experiancing this either make a bug report via FCPX or call apple tech support and report it, otherwise it might be way down on the list of fixes.
    So it is a bug, and has nothing to do with fonts, prefs, or Adobe products.

  • How can I speed up FCPX

    To all you frustrated FCPX users,
    I am a wedding videographer, I made the transiton from final cut studio to FCPX and find it to be an excelent programme.  That is until I started to produce a 90 minute complex wedding video with 500+ clips, 10 tracks of music and a substantial amount of colour correction in it.  I am working on a 17" mac book pro 2.66gz intel core i7 with 8GB of 1067 MHz DDR3 Ram and a NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 512 MB graphics card. and I am runnig Lion 10.7.2 (11C74)
    This is hooked up to an apple 30" cinema display with the Project and Event filles stored on a 1TB Lacie rugged disc via FW800 I have 30GB of disc space available on the laptop.
    I have prepared the movie (60hrs work already) and it has become progressively slower the longer the time line gets.  I have tried using proxy media and having no other software open at the time in attempt to get some speed up, not to mention endless restarts. The events are HDV1080i50 (25 Mb/s) Linear PCM. (I am ot sure if I should convert the time line to ProRes422? which is the Codec I used in FCP Studio. I have turned off background rendering and the playback is juddering and evey few seconds the spinning ball comes to play, often for up to 30 seconds before it catches up.
    I have been watching how the Ram is used and from there being 2gigs free at the start, I add a clip or two and zoom the timeline, nothing like a Colour correction and suddenly there is only 50mb of free ram and the machine speed nosedives to what we used to put up with 10 years ago!!
    If anyone has a fix for this, you would be doing me a huge favour.  I am already last with this movie. I was considdering going and buying a mac book pro with Thunderbolt and seeing if that was the problem.
    This software is, as it says, a Pro aplication, so surely it should cope with a full length movie?  
    Philip

    I don't know whether this will help, but I have always reckoned that the less you have on the system hard drive, the better your editing app will work.
    You say you have got 30GB free but it depends on the size of the HD and how fragmented it is.
    I have always suggested never filling a system drive more that 75% and I personally feel uneasy if mine gets above 50% full.
    If you have been using the system drive for a year or so it may also be  fragmented. OS X is supposed to automatically defragment but it doesn't do it very well according to  the many articles that have been published on the web.
    You can always test the amount of fragmentation by using an app like
    The easiest and safest way to reduce the fragmentation is to copy as much as possible to another drive, delete the originals of the files you copied and then copy back the files which will now be fairly unfragmented.
    Another thing that could cause problems with pro-apps like legacy FCP  was upgrading the OS from Leopard to SL or SL to Lion etc.
    Legacy FCP  did not always like it and many pros would erase and do a fresh install of a new OS.
    This took time but often saved heartaches later on.
    I don't know whether FCP X will be affected in the same way but every year or so it is a good idea to return your computer to its "as new" condition if you can.
    Message was edited by: Ian R. Brown

  • FCPX does not find disk

    I have put a LaCie ssd disk to my MacBook and try to move a FCPX project to it. De disk is connected thorugh either a ThunderBolt or the USB3 connection but in both case FCPX fails to see the disk. The disk however is neatly shown on the desktop. Why does FCPX refuses to see this disk. I would rather expect it a nice way to separate the FCPX data from the startup disk. That is frustrated by FCPX. Is it a bug?

    It turns out to be the second of the supposed causes. I had used the drive as a clone with CarbonCopyCloner and added the Final Cut Events+Projects folders at the disklevel. Disposing of the clone by repartitioning the drive as one volume makes it visible in FCPX and eligible for copying.

  • Can FCPX "upconvert" & export DVD video at 960x540?

    My video needs are basic -- mostly editing short clips, but often they're imported from standard DVDs from the pre-HD era. But as an audio pro, I'm accustomed to very flexible and precise editing controls.
    Frustrated with iMovie, I'm considering purchasing FCPX, but I have two questions:
    1. In iMovie, I detach the audio from the video for precise audio editing. But iMovie's audio controls are painfully rudimentary.
    —>  In FCPX, with audio detached, are you able to fine-tune fade curvatures and otherwise precisely edit volume automation?
    2. I ultimately need clips that are 960x540, and while iMovie 9 upconverted DVD video (which is 720x480) and exported it at 960x540, that feature (like many others) has been removed from iMovie 10.
    —>  In FCPX, can 720x480 video be exported at 960x540?

    Best route is to download the trial and work with it to see whether it meets your requirements.
    If you're ripping DVDs, presumably you're using something like MPEG Streamclip.
    Whatever you're using, you would rip them as SD and then could  upres them. You could also do that in Streamclip (or Compressor). But fair warning; the images will be softened as a result.
    Russ

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