Force run problem

Hi all,
I have a problem whit a user that has 7 applications on force on his
account
The run order is:
app1 0
app2 10
app3 50
app4 100
aap5 999
app6 1000
app7 2006
The way they are running at login
1. app1 2. app3 3. app4 4. app6 5. app7 the other applications
don't until, i give an nal refresh. All applicatie are simple objects.
Every application the option wait on force is checked.
now my question: Why is app2 and app5 not running at logon.
roydejager

1) Enable Logging in your Apps.
2) Enable General NAL logging.
One of them may show something.
https://secure-support.novell.com/Ka...AL_Public.html
NAL) Agent logging is enabled in the registry. Alternatively, it can be
configured using the GUI utility NALDIAG.EXE
Location: HKLM\Software\NetWare\NAL\1.0\Debug
Name (sets the debug level for any enabled component): Level
Type: DWORD Value
Data: 0 (Debug log file will NOT be written to)
Data: 1 (Informational messages only)
Data: 2 (Warning messages only)
Data: 3 (Informational and Warning messages only)
Data: 4 (Critical messages only)
Data: 5 (Informational and Critical messages only)
Data: 6 (Warning and Critical messages only)
Data: F (All messages)
Name: LogFileLocation (If this Value is non-existent - the default is
Program Files\Novell\ZENworks\ZFDNAL.CSV)
Type: STRING Value
Data: <location and filename of output file>
Name (MyApps log): Browser
Name (NALview log): Explorer
Name (Wks comm log): IPC
Name (ZENlite log): Library
Name (ZENmup log): MUP
Name (Reporting log): Reporting
Name (NALNTSRV log): Service
Name (NALSTART log): Start
Name (Wks Helper log): Workstation
Type: DWORD Value
Data: 0 (Debug logging will NOT be written to the NAL log file for this
component)
Data: 1 (Debug logging will be written to the NAL log file for this
component)
Output: as specified (if none specified, the default location is Program
Files\Novell\ZENworks\ZFDNAL.CSV)
Name (NAL MSI log): MSI
Type: DWORD Value
Data: 0 (Debug logging will NOT be enabled for this component)
Data: 1 (Debug logging will be enabled for this component)
Output: Program Files\Novell\ZENworks\ZAPPMSI.LOG (alternatively, you'll
find ZAPPMSI.LOG in the path listed in the LogFileLocation string value, if
specified
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> Hi there,
>
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>
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> thax wrote:
> > Hi There,
> >
> > I am trying to force-run a batch file to copy files from a local NBO
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>
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> >
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>
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>
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> >
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>
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> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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>
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> Hi folks.
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>
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>
> We have quite a few "force run" bundles.
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>
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>
> It should be noted that there are many more than 2 bundles, and not all
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> Some may be run once, others may need to run many times.
>
>
>
> I'm a bit confused on the best way to accomplish the order, and to
> avoid conflicts. For example:
>
>
> -If they are two separate bundles, then they may both attempt
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> time).
>
> If I create a bundle group, then I can't assign the first to run on
> STAFF only at login, and the second to run on ALL devices at refresh.
>
> If I create a bundle chain (dependencies), then I can't assign the
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>
>
>
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