Freezing Games?

Ok, so now I've finally put my new computer together, but not without issues... At first it didn't start at all, so I moved the memory modules to the third and forth channels. Then it worked. But! I feel my computer is to weak to play games or something, but I don't think it has to do with the graphics or processor cuz once the game has finished memorizing all the textures or whatever it floats on pretty well... But this happens all the time, and it takes a very long time to load maps (HL2) compared to my other computer with similar components. Both computers have the regular PSU that comes with the case.
The one with issues is a:
AMD64 3200+ s939
MSI K8T800PRO Neo2-FIR
Gainward GF6800LE 128MB DDR (I don't know why I bought this one. Is GwGF FX5900 better?)
Corsair Value Select 2x256MB DDR400 PC3200
(Unbuffered, Non-Parity, CL2.5)
Samsung SATA Spinpoint P80 160GB using Promise FastTrak Controller
PSU is 350W
+3.3V 28A
+5V 30A
+12V 16A
(I know this isn't good but since I have a similar in my other computer I thought this wouldn't be a problem. But the other computer differs a bit in components, so maybe...)
The other comp is a:
AMD64 3000+ s754
Mobo, not sure right now but its a nForce 250GB (not dual channel though)
Gainward GF FX5900 128MB
2x256 DDR400 3200 (1st and 2nd slot of three)
Samsung SATA Spinpoint P80 160GB
Can't look up the PSU right now but it is probably about the same as above.
I sure hope this has nothing to do with the graphics or the CPU. I'd like to know if the 6800LE is worse than the FX5900 though. THX!!!

I didn't wanna mention that cus ppl might start to think that's the only solution I can come up with
This PSU is also a good one (29amps on 12 v):
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.asp?sku=301416&cks=PRL
Keep ur current one if you plan on building a P3 PC with a P3 and Vodoo3 card

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While Loop Freezes game

i am coding for GTA IV
the game freezes when i use this while loop
while (tb == true)
if (Game.isKeyPressed(begkey) && ip == false)
beg_playing();
Game.Console.Print(begkey.ToString() + " Pressed");
Game.Console.Print("Animation Cleared");
Player.Character.Task.ClearAllImmediately();
Player.Character.Task.PlayAnimation(beggarsitting, "beggar_beg", 8);
Game.Console.Print("beggar_beg anim played");
ip = true;
gmoney.Start();
while (bp == true) { Wait(100); }
gback();
return;
if (Player.Character.isDead)
cleanup();
Here is the full code
using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Linq;
using System.Text;
using System.Threading.Tasks;
using System.IO;
using System.Windows.Forms;
using System.Drawing;
using System.Diagnostics;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using GTA;
using GTA.Native;
namespace Beggar
public class ambBeggar : Script
bool tb = false;
bool bp = true;
bool ip = false;
Ped rped;
AnimationSet beggarsitting;
//AnimationSet beggarstanding;
Keys begkey;
GTA.Timer gmoney;
public ambBeggar()
gmoney = new GTA.Timer(120000);
gmoney.Tick += gmoney_Tick;
begkey = Settings.GetValueKey("Beg", "Beggar Mod", Keys.B);
if(!File.Exists(Settings.Filename))
Settings.SetValue("Beg", "Beggar Mod", Keys.B);
this.Interval = 100000;
this.Tick += new EventHandler(ambBeggar_get);
this.ConsoleCommand += new ConsoleEventHandler(ambBeggar_ConsoleCommand);
public void ambBeggar_get(object sender, EventArgs e)
if(tb == true && !rped.Exists())
rped = World.GetClosestPed(Player.Character.Position,20);
public void gmoney_Tick(object sender, EventArgs e)
if (rped.Exists())
rped.Task.GoTo(Player.Character.Position.Around(2));
Pickup.CreateMoneyPickup(rped.Position, 1000);
rped.NoLongerNeeded();
ip = false;
if(gmoney.isRunning)
gmoney.Stop();
public void ambBeggar_ConsoleCommand(object sender, ConsoleEventArgs e)
if (e.Command == "beggar_on")
tb = true;
Game.Console.Print("Beggar Mod By Mora Hannover");
Game.Console.Print("beggar mod toggled");
//Function.Call("REQUEST_ANIMS", "amb@beg_sitting");
Game.Console.Print("loading anim set amb@beg_sitting");
beggarsitting = new AnimationSet("amb@beg_sitting");
Wait(5000);
//Function.Call("REQUEST_ANIMS","amb@beg_standing");
// if (Function.Call<bool>("HAVE_ANIMS_LOADED", "amb@beg_sitting") && Function.Call<bool>("HAVE_ANIMS_LOADED","amb@beg_sitting"))
Game.Console.Print("amb@beg_sitting available");
msg("Press " + begkey.ToString() + " To Beg", 5000);
//beggarstanding = new AnimationSet("amb@beg_standing");
Player.Character.Animation.Play(beggarsitting, "beggar_sit", 8, AnimationFlags.Unknown05);
Game.Console.Print("beggar_sit anim played");
while (tb == true)
if (Game.isKeyPressed(begkey) && ip == false)
beg_playing();
Game.Console.Print(begkey.ToString() + " Pressed");
Game.Console.Print("Animation Cleared");
Player.Character.Task.ClearAllImmediately();
Player.Character.Task.PlayAnimation(beggarsitting, "beggar_beg", 8);
Game.Console.Print("beggar_beg anim played");
ip = true;
gmoney.Start();
while (bp == true) { Wait(100); }
gback();
return;
if (Player.Character.isDead)
cleanup();
if (e.Command == "beggar_off")
cleanup();
public void msg(string sMsg, int time)
Function.Call("PRINT_STRING_WITH_LITERAL_STRING_NOW", new Parameter[] { "STRING", sMsg, time, 1 });
public void beg_playing()
if (GTA.Native.Function.Call<bool>("IS_CHAR_PLAYING_ANIM", Player.Character, "amb@beg_sitting", "beggar_beg") == false)
bp = false;
if (GTA.Native.Function.Call<bool>("IS_CHAR_PLAYING_ANIM", Player.Character, "amb@beg_sitting", "beggar_beg") == true)
bp = true;
public void cleanup()
tb = false;
ip = false;
bp = false;
Game.Console.Print("beggar_mod off :'(");
Player.Character.Task.ClearAllImmediately();
if(gmoney.isRunning)
gmoney.Stop();
public void gback()
Player.Character.Task.ClearAllImmediately();
Player.Character.Task.PlayAnimation(beggarsitting, "beggar_sit", 8, AnimationFlags.Unknown05);
Game.Console.Print("beggar_sit anim played"); return;

Hello,
Have you tried to debug your code step by step? As it's very hard for others to reproduce your problem, I recommend that you firstly debug your code, find out which line causes the problem. And make sure that you don't cause infinit loop in your code, as
I can see from your code, if the variable "tb" or "bp" is always true, your code will go into an infinit loop. This will cause the freeze of the application.
while (tb == true)
if (Game.isKeyPressed(begkey) && ip == false)
beg_playing();
Game.Console.Print(begkey.ToString() + " Pressed");
Game.Console.Print("Animation Cleared");
Player.Character.Task.ClearAllImmediately();
Player.Character.Task.PlayAnimation(beggarsitting, "beggar_beg", 8);
Game.Console.Print("beggar_beg anim played");
ip = true;
gmoney.Start();
while (bp == true) { Wait(100); }
gback();
return;
if (Player.Character.isDead)
cleanup();
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Mobo: Asus Striker II NSE
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 9450 @ 2.66GHz
2x500Gb WD HDDs
PSU: Thermaltake ToughPower 700W
Memory: Corsair XMS3 DHX CM3X2G1333C9DHX
OS: Win7 Ultimate x64
That enough about sys config or do you want to know more?
Thanks, any help appreciated.

Quote from: Hiro on 12-June-11, 09:36:07
.... and when GPU temperature reaches about 60 or 65C (which is not that much) game freezes. ..
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**** UPDATES ARE IN MY REPLIES UNDER THIS. DIDN'T KNOW I COULD UPDATE IN THE SAME POST ****
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Logisys 650 Watt 24 Pin Green Gamer Power Supply w/ SATA and PCI-E
AMD Phenom X4 9850 Quad
OCZ Platinum XTC 4GB Dual Channel PC6400 Memory - DDR2-800MHz
XFX GeForce 9600 GSO Video Card - 768MB DDR2, PCI Express 2.0, Dual Link DVI, SLI Ready
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB Hard Drive - 7200, 16MB, SATA-300

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Hi
I bought a MSI GF4 TI-4200 TD 8x about 2 months ago, and it has been running fine 'till now...I'm having a few problems in a few games (HALO, homeworld 2), ocasionally my computer freezes completely in the middle of these games, and I have to reboot...I've tried lots of things to solve this problem, but I wasn't able to just yet...As I know these 2 games use directx 9, I was wondering if my graphics card supports or is compatible with dx9...In the manual and on the site it says dx 8.1 compatible...doesn't mention dx 9... So I'd like to know if it is compatible, and if this may be the cause for all these gaming problems...If not, I'd like to know what can I do to detect where the problem is...
When the game crashes, a long beeping sound occurs...I think this may be relevant too...
I've updated the SB drivers, mobo drivers, nvidia drivers (tried 45.23 and 44.03), tried changing AGP aperture size on BIOS (64 or 128),
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AMD Athlon XP 2100+
512 MB DDR333 (Kingston)
MSI GF4 TI 4200 - TD8X
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Player
Pinnacle Studio-TV
Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
IBM 80GB 7200 RPM HD
Samsung DVD-ROM
LG CD-RW
Windows XP Professional with SP1 and fully updated.
450w PSU
Samtron 96B
IRQ Settings :
(ISA) 0 System timer
(ISA) 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
(ISA) 3 Communications Port (COM2)
(ISA) 4 Communications Port (COM1)
(PCI) 5 NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
(PCI) 5 Studio PCTV (Audio)
(ISA) 6 Standard floppy disk controller
(ISA) 8 System CMOS/real time clock
(ISA) 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
(ISA) 13 Numeric data processor
(ISA) 14 Primary IDE Channel
(ISA) 15 Secondary IDE Channel
(PCI) 16 Creative SB Audigy
(PCI) 16 Studio PCTV
(PCI) 17 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
(PCI) 17 Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
(PCI) 19 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
(PCI) 20 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
(PCI) 21 Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
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Disable Spread Spectrum for both the CPU and AGP, Disable any BIOS caching and shadowing
What unified driver package did you install? I recommend using the 2.03's
Please create a signature in your profile like mine.
I don't think this is directly related to your video card.
If no help here:
Post this question in the nForce forum too and tell them I told you to.
The reason is someone may have had this problem from that forum but deos not visit this one. I also suggest you post this question over at http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/ to see if they have experienced it.
I know I have experienced this problem but for the life of me I cannot remember what it was that fixed it.
Your sound and TV card are sharing IRQ's, you really should try to swap PCI slots so the Audigy is on it's own and the same goes with the TV card. I know slot 3 is a good spot for the TV card, you may have to swap till you get the best IRQ allocation.
Post about the SOD not the VGA in the nForce forum

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OK.. the thing is: i just bought a Geforce FX 5200 T128, with 128 MB DDR (the one without a cooling fan), and when i try to run my DirectX 9 games (GTA: Vice city, NFS: Underground, Hitman: Contracts) my computer locks up in the game's loading screen. These lock-ups occur also, when i set the anisotropic filtering at values higher than 2x, and/or when i turn the V-sync on, but only when i start a game..
ALSO...... the same lock-up occurs when i try to RENAME A FILE ------- the cursor is still blinking, but EVERYTHING else freezes.
So? whats up guys.... last time i checked the FX 5200 had support for DX9, didn't it?
Well, i can't tell exactly if the problem is common to all DX9 games, because i didn't tryed many of them... but the games listed above, all require DX9. Furter more, those games ran on my older Geforce2 MX400, witch doesn't have support for DX9. All my other non DX9 games work fine (well not to the max, because i still have a mainboard witch supports only AGP 4x). If i change my mainboard to one with AGP 8x will the problem be solved?
Also, the videocard, out of my opinion, gets too hot after i play a game, but i don't think this should be the problem, because when i try to start those games, my computer still locks up, even though i just started it, and the videocard didn't have time to overheat.
The problem occurs with both the driver from the CD that came with the card, and the new Forceware 56.72. I haven't tryed oder drivers. The videocard is not overclocked, and the frequencies are on the standard 200 Mhz (GPU), and 400 Mhz (RAM)
So, can you help me out here.. give me some suggestions? I have written here all the information i beleive are relevant to the problem. My processor is a 1200 Mhz AMD Duron, and 256 MB SDRAM
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Obi One,
Have you tried changing the AGP voltage in your bios to 1.6V? Got the same problem before when running 3D games. My system doesn't lock up but it gives me weird display (lot of greens). It was solved when I increased my AGP voltage setting from 1.5V to 1.6V. You may want to post your power supply specs too because the FX cards are really power hungry.
Good Luck

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First off greetings to everyone on these forums...
I purchased the MSI Neo2 K8N Platinum motherboard from NewEgg back at the end of March to compliment the AMD 64 "Winchester" processor that I also purchased at that time to replace a slightly older AMD XP "Barton" system that was using the Abit NF7-S motherboard. For the past month I have been fighting an unusual and highly irritating issue that I have noticed during game play and have tried everything that I know of and more in an attempt to remedy this issue, but to no avail. This is the general background of the situation and now I will descibe in greater detail as to what this issue I am referring to is and the symptoms of this issue and some of the various methods used to remedy this issue.
The issue is that while play a game the system experiences a short 5-10 second freeze during the game randomly, but usually several times an hour. During this freezing the sound would loop and as suddenly as the freeze occurs it would cease and the game would continue on as if nothing happened. However, sometimes this would result in the system freezing outright after this short 5-10 second freeze... but it does not feel like a total system freeze, but rather a video freeze as the sound continues and I still have keyboard control... but this does require me to force a manual reboot of the machine itself. I have scowered the internet and various forums in an attempt to find what the issue was and use various methods to remedy this issue, but so far nothing has worked in my favor... but it does seem like this issue has been plaguing other users with the MSI Neo2 Platinum motherboard. Below are some of the methods that I have used in an attempt to solve this issue:
*Default Clock for CPU/Memory/GPU; Over/Under Clock for CPU/Memory/GPU
*Increased voltages to CPU VID, AGP, and Memory
*Disabled/Enabled AGP Fast Writes
*Increased AGP Aperture from 64MB to 512MB
*Enabled/Disabled ATI/nVidia Speedup option in BIOS
*Forced AGP clock lock to 66-67mhz
*Relaxed/Aggressive memory timings
*APIC enabled/disabled
*Gate A20 turbo/normal
*Disabled all unneeded onboard components (Realtek NIC, Sound, SATA)
*Disabled nVidia MAC and attempted to use 3Com Gigabit PCI card instead
*Swapped HDD Cables
*Tried PCI Sound Card (SB Audigy2 ZS Gamer) in PCI Slots 3/4
*Tried video drivers from 71.89 Official to 76.45 beta modified drivers
*Tried 5.10 official nForce drivers to remixed 7.02 nForce drivers (5.10 drivers uses 4.36 GART, higher drivers uses the 4.40 GART)
*Applied all the latest updates from Windows Update Website
*Reinstalled Operating System (Windows XP SP2) 5 different times clean with various settings (APIC on/off, etc...) and different drivers.
*Installed Audio Card (SB Audigy2 ZS Gamer) with older and the latest drivers available from Creative's website
*Replaced PSU (Previously was a Thermaltake 420watt PSU, 18A +12v) with a OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU (28A +12v)
*Video card is KNOWN working from previous build (AMD XP 3000, Abit NF7-S)
*Hard Drive is KNOWN working from previous build
*CD/DVD-ROM drive is kNOWN working from previous build
*Heat is not an issue... all components temperature is well below rated level, the only unknown is the chipset temperature (it has a active heatsink and seems to not be hot to the touch, applied AS5 to it anyway)
*Used latency tweak to the video card
*Used Rivatuner to force constant performance level
*Tweaked BIOS to force even clock rates and forced 1.4v to the GPU Core
*Used original GPU BIOS
*Used MSI Neo2 K8N Bios 1.4 - 1.8 and modified BIOS 1.8
*No background applications are running (not even antivirus)
*Used application to force maximum refresh rates for my monitor
*Memory passed MemTest86+ for over 24 hours
*System passed Prime95 and SuperPi for over 24 hours
*System seems stable in all non gaming related applications
*Checked through various troubleshooting procedures
*Disabled SBDRVDET.EXE using MSCONFIG
*There are no IRQ conflicts outside of PCI system management sharing IRQ11 with the NIC and USB... in APIC there are no IRQ conflicts what so ever. Regardless neither method worked
*Installed AMD 64 drivers from AMD
*Disabled DEP in boot.ini
*...and many other various tweaks and modifications.
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CPU - AMD 64 3200+ "Winchester", using Thermaltake Silentboost K8 and AS5
Motherboard - MSI Neo2 K8N Platinum (nForce3 250GB Ultra) - Using Bios version 1.8
Memory - 2X 512MB Corsair XMS TwinX1024-3200C2PT (2 Modules, Memory Slots 1 and 2 used)
Audio - Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS (PCI Slot 3 used)
NIC - Onboard nVidia MAC, Disabled Realtek NIC
Video - XFX Geforce 6800NU 128MB AGP (BIOS Rev 1) - NV Silencer 5 and AS5
Case - Thermaltake Damier Series 5000
PSU - OCZ Modstream 520watt (28A +12v rail)
HDD - Western Digital 1200JB 7200rpm IDE
DVD-ROM - Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM
Floppy - Mitsumi 1.44MB 3.25"
OS - Windows XP SP2/DirectX 9c
I have been fighting this issue for well over a month now and I am frankly nearly out of ideas, this does not necessarly prevent me from playing games, but this does interfere with the games I do play (especially online games). I do demand absolute stability from the games that I play and this issue only began AFTER I upgraded to the new motherboard, processor, and memory. The only thing I have not tried is something that I do not have access in attempting on this motherboard, and that is increasing the voltage to the chipset.
Here is my theory on what is going on is that I believe is there is a fault with the chipset on this motherboard and this is manifesting itself while I am playing various games on this system. Of course I would like to try increasing the voltage to the chipset as that would increase stability, but there is no option in BIOS to increase the chipset voltage like the previous motherboard I had (Abit NF7-S). It is possible that either a) the chipset is at fault and is causing me this issue or b) the chipset is not recieving enough voltage.
My question to the rest of you is this, what do you think the problem is and what ideas do you have that I may try that I have not tried yet. Additionally if there is nothing else that I may try should I attempt to RMA this motherboard and will that help, and is there any other versions of this motherboard that I should be aware of. I would appreciate any response from a MSI representative and any comments from those that may have positive suggestions for my issue. Thank you in advance for your time and any help that you may be able to render.
The GameMaster...
*EDIT* Added additional methods attempted... (there was a lot... so I did not remember everything that I have tried)

Quote from: dacull on 25-May-05, 16:06:33
Does it only happen in online games, or can it happen in all games? One thing to make sure of is to turn off CRC checksum offload in your NVidia MAC properties (everyone do this, it is incorrectly calculating checksums which leads to servers ignoring your packets). However as you have tried a different network card you can discount this theory.
For me it looks like the biggest culrpit is your 6800NU, i have read alot of bad things about the NU and you have a low bios revision there, just because it worked well against your old chipset doesnt mean it will work well against your current chipset. Sounds like a BIOS fix is needed as some timing is out somewhere.
Ensure Spread Spectrum is off (and as you have already pointed out Fast writes, ATI NV Speedup) and your card is running at default clock.
As a test beg/borrow/steal another graphics card (preferably nvidia) and see how it goes so you can narrow in on your video card.
It is not just one game, but it is more prodominate in certain games than others... the game in question here is Planetside... though I stuck a demo of Unreal Tournament 2004 on a loop bot match and it seemed to have locked up after 4 hours (not sure how many times it experienced that 5-10 freeze as I went to bed). As for the video card it was KNOWN working from a previous build in those same games (Previous build was a AMDXP3000 and a Abit NF7-S nForce2 motherboard). The only components different in this build is the AMD64, the MSI Neo2 K8N, 2 new sticks of Corsair XMS to replace the Corsair ValueSelects, and the SB Audigy2 as I would never use a software codec audio solution. Spread Spectrum is LOCKED in BIOS and disabled... ATI/nVidia speed up was disabled from the start... and I tried the Video Card at default clock, over clocked, as well as under clocked and the same issue resulted... as I said before it is NOT the video card.
There are two other things I could try is use my old Geforce4ti 4200 and see what happens... or even try out WindowsXP 64-bit edition as someone earlier suggested. I wish I could find a new BIOS for my XFX 6800NU, but there there is only the revision 1 BIOS that I was able to find. The mystery continues...
The GameMaster...

MSI P35 Neo-F (MS-7360): Computer randomly freezes while playing games

Hi there,
I have reached the end of my technical knowledge right now and I'm not even sure if this area of the forum is appropriate. The problem:
While playing higher-end games like Crysis 2, Anno 1404, Mass Effect 2 etc. my computer randomly freezes and the last few milliseconds of sound are being looped on my speakers (kind of like a buzzing sound).
By "freezing" I mean that my computer becomes unresponsive to any action other than pressing the Reset-Button or holding down the Power-Up-Button (no reaction to Ctrl+Alt+Del, Alt+F4, Alt+Tab, no mouse movement... you get it).
There's no exact timing as to when these freezes occur. The fastest freeze happened after less than a minute of playing a game, slowes one (just today after switching to my newer case with better cooling) took about 2 hours.
This freeze only occurs while my System is under load. No freezes while browsing the web, using office programs, listening to music or watching videos.
System Specs:
Mainboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (MSI-7360)
CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q6600 @2.4GHz
RAM: 4x 1GB DDR2-800 Corsair XMS2
Graphics: Gainward GeForce GTX 560 Ti, 1GB GDDR5 VRAM
PSU: Antec High Current Gamer 620W (upgraded from Xilence XP600, 600W)
New CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 13 Pro (upgraded from OEM Intel Boxed Cooler)
New Case: Zalman Z9 Plus w/ 4x 120 mm Fans (Upgraded from a Case with only 1x 250mm side Fan)
2 Western Digital HDD (1x 2TB, 1x320 GB)
1 DVD Reader/Burner (unimportant for that error I guess)
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
2 Screens: 1x 24" Asus VS248H and 1x 21" LG Flatron Wide W2240T
Since this error is bugging me for quite a while now and since this is not the first forum I'm trying to get help from, here's a list of steps i already took to get rid of it, obviously to no good use:
reinstalled games where the freeze occurred
updated all Drivers (including cleaning old versions in safe mode; also tried older drivers)
updated BIOS to v1.A0
Reinstalled Windows
bought new Case and CPU Cooler to improve Air Flow/Cooling
checked Seating of all components (took out, cleaned, reapplied thermal grease where neccessary, re-inserted)
cleaned old case of dust (obviously no problem in the new case, which is 2 days "old")
ran 7 sequences of Memtes86+ without any errors
ran Prime95 without any errors for about 45 Minutes
ran Furmark for 15 Minutes under full load (burn-in test) without any problems, even though my graphics card hit the 100°C frequency-cut level
ran Furmark and Prime95 simultaneously without any problems
took records of component temperatures and system voltages without noticing anything unusual (at least not after i switched to the newer PSU, which is about 1 Month old - yet didn't resolve the problem)
tested with cyclic removal of 1 RAM device to further rule out RAM malfunction
tested with only 2 RAM devices in dual channel mode (Slots 1 and 3)
tried to reduce RAM clock (800 MHz --> 667 MHz) to no avail
checked S.M.A.R.T. values of HDDs, no issues reported
tested without any background programs
raised/lowered voltages to RAM, CPU and Chipset in BIOS to increase logic circuit stability/decrease heat production
I need to mention: After I transferred my system to the new case, i was able to play longer than average compared to my old case. So I am guessing that improper cooling was part of the problem, yet improving cooling obviously didn't resolve it.
Since these freezes are really annoying and nobody could help me resolve this so far, I'm hoping to find some new ways of narrowing down the problem or even getting rid of it here.
Regards
Sebb

Quote from: Bernhard on 10-July-12, 13:15:30
Lets be realistic. A system with a 560TI is recommended to have a around 31Amps under full load, a CX500 would be sufficient.
Have you monitored your CPU and memory utilisation ?
As suggested before, test the GPU in another computer to see if the behaviour is the same.
Whew, I thought for a second there that my common sense had left me when I saw that 60-Amp-Post ^^
Yes, I monitored CPU and RAM usage, there is no recognizeable pattern to be seen and it almost never happens under full load.
I will see if a friend of mine can test my GPU on his computer, and I will test it underclocked right away.
Though one more question regarding that: Should I only underclock GPU Core Clock or both Core and RAM clock?

Why is it that when I play a game with a moving character, the game freezes up for a second when I move the character? This happens everytime I move them.

This freezing problem that I am having only happens when there is a moving character in the game. For example, when I hit the left arrow to move them left, the game, in a way, skips the action, and then jumps ahead to after the character has moved. I am not sure whether that would be freezing up or just skipping. I have updated all of my plugins, and I do not know what else to try.

Hello,
Try disabling graphics hardware acceleration. Since this feature was added to Firefox, it has gradually improved, but there still are a few glitches.
You might need to restart Firefox in order for this to take effect, so save all work first (e.g., mail you are composing, online documents you're editing, etc.).
Then perform these steps:
*Click the orange Firefox button at the top left, then select the "Options" button, or, if there is no Firefox button at the top, go to Tools > Options.
*In the Firefox options window click the ''Advanced'' tab, then select "General".
*In the settings list, you should find the ''Use hardware acceleration when available'' checkbox. Uncheck this checkbox.
*Now, restart Firefox and see if the problems persist.
Additionally, please check for updates for your graphics driver by following the steps mentioned in the following Knowledge base articles:
* [[Troubleshoot extensions, themes and hardware acceleration issues to solve common Firefox problems]]
* [[Upgrade your graphics drivers to use hardware acceleration and WebGL]]
Did this fix your problems? Please report back to us!
Thank you.

Sleep freeze when playing games

i have a MAC OS X panther version 10.3.9 and during gameplay, i play world of warcraft, it goes to sleep while i play and thereby freezing the game and then i have to force quit it and start all over and it gets really annoying after a while and i tried cleaning where air get through and it kept going to sleep other players online get mad at me because i always get disonnected Also sometimes it even goes to sleep during regular use I have already email the game developers and they told me to get a temperature monitor and i noticed that it goes to sleep when it reaches a maximum of at least 85 degrees
Does anyone know what i should do?
Mac OS X (10.3.9)

"i played today and i tried putting a fan behind my computer and after thirty minutes it went to sleep while i was gaming online"
I'm sorry to hear that - it doesn't sound good at all that you tried to cool it, but it still overheats. You should click on the "Support" tab at the top of this page, scroll down until on the right side you see "About Your Support Coverage," enter your iMac's serial number in the box, and click the "Go" button to find out how long your first generation iMac G5 is still under warranty.
If still under warranty, call Apple to start a service ticket on it immediately, and make a note of the ticket number they give you. If not still under warranty, and you do not have an AppleCare Protection Plan, you should have it checked out by an Apple certified repair technician to see if it will be covered under the "iMac G5 Repair Extension Program" that I mentioned previously in an above post.
I would be certain of that possibility of free service under the special program, prior to beginning to work on it myself. If you are denied any free service, then it wouldn't matter any more and you can fiddle with it to your heart's content. Remember that with a valuable lcd display, your iMac will still have value, so be careful not to treat it as if it's worthless.
The first gen iMac G5 is user serviceable without impacting the warranty at all, as long as your work is confined to the areas accessed in the Do-It-Yourself Instructions. As an example, since those instructions do not include how to remove the lcd display, your warranty could be voided if you were to remove it. Anything that is listed as user serviceable in those instructions should be relatively easy for most owners to do for themselves, but most people can realize how far there own ability extends by reading those instructions. Good luck.

MSI Neo4 Platinum with MSI GF6600GT PCI-e Freezes on games

I'm having this serious problem that my new build system freezes on games. Sometimes I can play for a few hours and sometimes I can play only a few minutes before the system freezes completely. Only a hardware reset helps in this case.
This is my hardware setup:
MSI Neo4 Platinum
MSI GF6600GT PCI-e
2 x 512MB DDR400 memory(in dual mode)
AMD 3200+ 64-bit processor
Sound Blaster Audigy
DVD Writer
Floppy
I'm using Windows XP SP2
What I tryd:
Tested with other RAM modules, same trouble
Reinstalled windows xp, same trouble
Tryd all kind of driver versions, same trouble
Flashed bios to 1.9, same trouble
Put a Zalman Cooler on the Video card (temperature now between 40 and 60 degrees in games instead of 80-100 degrees), same trouble
This is where my questions come:
There are two hardware components I cannot switch to try:
The mainboard and the Video card. Whitch one is most likely to be broken??
I have read in the manual of the mainboard that the PSU should have at least 18A on the 12+ signal. My PSU only haves 15A there. While I doubt this results in problems like this I still like to know if it does!
Please help me out on this one!

Have tried older drivers for you GFX, I find the late 6XXX work better for most games. You mite want to check the system is stable with:
Prime95, Memtest86, 3D mark 03 & 05.
You mite be having the same problems as "easlern", his games would lock up. This was due to to a problem with onboard sound Sound Blaster.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84328.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84328.msg603340#msg603340
Quote
At that moment I didn't even know what was actually on my board, but I knew it was a generic card I was probably never going to use anyway, and I didn't recall getting any sound card updates for this board. So I looked in device manager, and bingo: AC97 device under multimedia devices. I immediately did two things to completely eliminate the rascal: updated the driver for it and promptly went to BIOS and disabled the sucker. Also disabled SATA group 2 (slots 3 and 4), the Marvell LAN because I only use one ethernet anyway (the nVidia one, which from what I was reading, was probably the more robust of the two), both RAID controllers (actually I had disabled them earlier to skip the annoying RAID setup screen), and put the PCIe bus back to 100MHz (rogue: I was wondering about possible damage over time with this too high too, so I was glad to try setting it back to normal!) Also ran Driver Cleaner to rip out the detonators even though I was putting in another nVidia, and then put in the 6800GT and installed drivers. (In case you were interested, my 3dMark05 score went from 3511 under the 6600GT to 4939 under the 6800GT! I now run in 1280x1024 at max effects and I'm completely spoiled in one night already! )
Anyway, one of these myriad, desperate attempts must have worked because I get neither audio stutters (should have been a freaking clue in the first place, duh!) nor lock ups.
Since this is the first PC I've built, I was certain I had to have screwed something up hardware-wise or found some combination that had incompatibilities. If it WAS just the freaking sound card driver I'm going to leave this place in shame and never post again! In my defense, the MSI Update utility didn't show any updated sound drivers for me, and I had assumed it was being pre-empted by my SB Live in any case.
I was convinced this problem was (if it is indeed gone) a video card issue but I can't say it ever was without putting the 6600 back in and running for several hours. I'm going to bet it was the AC97 though because nVidia boards have always been fantastic for me, I haven't had any actual motherboard issues, my RAM and CPU are just fine, and Win2k has never let me down.
Don't assume anything, though, I've learned.
One thing to note: when I was checking out the AC97, I noticed it was *sharing* IRQ 20 with the nForce NIC detector (might have a different name, I can't remember right now). Apparently this is a capability of Win2k to share IRQs but it kind of added to my suspicions anyway.
I'll let you know how the next few sessions go and whether this issue is still an issue

Freeze on blank screen with sound loop when playing steam games

Hi,
I would really appreciate some advice. I've been troubleshooting this problem without success,
Problem:
Playing games on steam*, at some point, sometimes 5 minutes in, sometimes 2 hours in:
- Screen goes blank,
- last sound loops continuously,
- computer completely unresponsive, requires hard shut down
- On restart I get almost the same report every time, though sometimes it referes to CPU 0 and sometimes CPU 2, a sample:
Sat Feb 26 12:16:44 2011
panic(cpu 2 caller 0x9cdbfa): NVRM[0/1:0:0]: Read Error 0x00000100: CFG 0x0a2910de 0x00100000 0x00000000, BAR0 0xc0000000 0x7f4cd000 0x0a5480a2, D0, P3/4
Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x5bdd3888 : 0x21b50c (0x5d4438 0x5bdd38bc 0x223974 0x0)
0x5bdd38d8 : 0x9cdbfa (0xbe32bc 0xc53940 0xbf2424 0x0)
0x5bdd3978 : 0xae8640 (0x93d7004 0x9a47004 0x100 0x2b0a6c)
0x5bdd39c8 : 0xadf639 (0x9a47004 0x100 0x5bdd39f8 0x9bd6d7)
0x5bdd39f8 : 0x16bd9ce (0x9a47004 0x100 0x438004ee 0x2b0a6c)
0x5bdd3b38 : 0xb072bd (0x9a47004 0x877d004 0x0 0x0)
0x5bdd3b78 : 0x9d6e63 (0x9a47004 0x877d004 0x0 0x0)
0x5bdd3c18 : 0x9d346f (0x0 0x9 0x0 0x0)
0x5bdd3dc8 : 0x9d533e (0x0 0x600d600d 0x702a 0x5bdd3df8)
0x5bdd3e98 : 0x969582 (0xc1d00010 0xaa910001 0x20802040 0x5bdd3ee0)
0x5bdd3ef8 : 0xd294eb (0x940e800 0x5bdd3f4c 0x0 0x7)
0x5bdd3f58 : 0xd29696 (0x93c7000 0xd30b54 0x5bdd3f78 0x2a358d)
0x5bdd3f78 : 0x22fd09 (0x93c7000 0x0 0x5bdd3fc8 0x227966)
0x5bdd3fc8 : 0x2a06cc (0x863ea0 0x0 0x10 0x0)
Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AGPM(100.12.19)@0xd26000->0xd30fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.2)@0x938000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.2)@0x95a000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x927000
com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal(6.2.6)@0x1587000->0x199bfff
dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(6.2.6)@0x967000
com.apple.NVDAResman(6.2.6)@0x967000->0xc54fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x927000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.2)@0x95a000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.2)@0x938000
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
* This also happened one time when using photoshop
What I have tried:
- updating steam and OS X
- closing all apps besides steam
- disabling Vsync in the games
- running games in very low quality
- updating to latest flash beta (steam uses flash for in-app advertising)
- reinstall steam and redownload and reinstall games
- verify and repair disk within OS
- SMART check, RAM test, Video memory test with TechTool Pro, all Pass
- removing peripherals ie. Microsoft bluetooth mouse
- hardware test with OS X install DVD on reboot, detects no problems
- stressing the GPU doing intensive 3D effects in Adobe After Effects, no crash
- stressing GPU using CINEBENCH, no crash
- monitoring temp with Temperature Monitor, Last crash GPU was at around 80 and CPU at around 85
System
mid 2010 MBP
15 inch with Hires display
i7, 4 GB RAM, Nvidia GT330M card
OS X 10.6.6
*Other points*
- Machine is still under 1 yr warranty
- I'm overseas studying design and I really cant afford to to take it in and not have a machine for 2 weeks. I'd really like to exhaust all options before taking it in. I'm also worrying that they will run the hardware test as I did and tell me: no problems found.

I'm so ****** off that it's been weeks and no solution has been provided for this. In the middle of video editing, watching quicktime videos, youtube, or playing any games the computer hard freezes with a black screen and looping audio of about 1/2 second.
FIX IT!

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