HAL won't start...no X, only terminal

Hey, everything was going on quite well for a few months...now HAL won't start. At all. Obviously, any WM doesn't start either.
When I try to start HAL I get this:
Failed to start message bus: Error in file /etc/dbus-1/system.d/ConsoleKit.conf, line 1, column 0: no element found
and
sudo half --daemon=no --verbose=yes
Password:
<time> [i] hald.c:673: hal 0.5.14
<time> [i] hald.c:674: using child timeout 250s
hald.c:739 Will not daemonize
hald_dbus.c:5444: local server is listening at unix:abstract=/var/run/hald/dub-xbTfmFQNCq,guid=dfa78a35969778d0e6e5046f00000112
hald_dbus.c:5821: dbus_bus_get(): Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket:No such file or directory
Things I've tried: adding/removing dbus from daemons array, fscking the disk (who knows)...restarting hal and dbus 1,000 times.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
EDIT: I notice that I upgraded dbus-python to 0.83.1-1 this afternoon...the problem started following a reboot...hmmm...ALSO, I should note that I am using 86-64, if that means anything.
Last edited by lasu1 (2010-04-05 20:56:09)

Hal wasn't (I don't know if it is now) starting here too. I guess I just have two simultaneous troubles, one of which seems to be the same you guys are having.
Do your xinit error messages give a line like this: "FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.32-ARCH/modules.dep: No such file or directory" ?
It was being the trouble for me, and I've googled a bit about, and this results at least in X not working for some other people, I don't know if it's due to hal not starting or whatever (it was happening to me too).
It seems that how to fix it may be a bit different for everyone. It apparently results from upgrading the kernel and not booting right away, but I might have misunderstood something. For some people the solution was simply too boot (!), but for others it involved commands such as "depmod -a". In my case, I've reinstalled the kernel (some people downgraded it), and it worked, at least X worked. I didn't test network yet, and I didn't pay attention to see if hal started. Despite of X starting, I was having my own troubles with its configuration, so I didn't have mouse or keyboard. I'm typing from debian, I'm going too take a look at arch's xorg.conf and then reboot once again, if there's something that looks more or less evidently wrong (like it not being there).
So, that's it. I suggest you to see if that "modules.dep" thing appears in your xinit error messages, and google a bit for it if that's the case.
EDIT: Yep, it did fix everything for me. Hal starts, X starts, and now that I've restored xorg.conf, I can use the keyboard and I also have internet connection on arch.
EDIT 2: additional note. The error message I've mentioned does not appear in the xorg.0.log on /var somewhere (I couldn't find/grep it at least), but only as the output of xinit (probably startx as well).
Last edited by the dsc (2010-04-24 22:35:57)

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