HDV 720p 25 and 24p films

Hi,
I want to make a movie filmed with a DSLR in 24p. In FCE, I can just choose HDV 720p 25... so FCE adds a 13th frame (that is a copy of the 12th frame) for each second when I put a sequence in the timeline.
My movie is a dance movie, so I would prefer to not have that additionnal frame.
Is it possible to prevent FCE from adding a 25th frame in the timeline? Even if the movie is speeded up (if it would be possible, I imagine I would slow down the sequence at 96% - so I find back 24 frames per second).
Or, do you have an other idea? Is there a way to easily delete the 13th frame of each second?
Thanks in advance,
Yann

It would help if you specify the exact make/model DSLR you have.
FCE supports 720p25/30. It does not directly support 24fps anything.
I'd suggest looking at MPEG Streamclip to convert your camcorder videos to 720p25 or 30 (QuickTime/Apple Intermediate Codec) before importing the video into FCE.

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So the 27.97p is really 60i, and FCP does not care what it was shot in?
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