HDV 720p60 Native Editing

Hi,
I would like to capture and edit HDV @ 720p60 natively, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do this in Final Cut Pro. Even if I set the project up to use the Apple Intermediary Codec, I still have to render all of my clips before I can use them. Ideally I would like to retain the timecode, but if I have to use the intermediary codec, can someone point out how I might be able to edit @60 fps with it?
Thanks so much.

I can setup for 720p30, Are you sure this isn't right for you. Are you sure you shoot 60 frames of HDV. Please give more details including versions of OS,FC, QT and computer, and camera/decks involved.
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