How to troubleshoot intermittent connection drops on Apple LAN (TimeCapsule AirPorts)

Hi all, I have built out a wireless network for an office space. The network consists of a TimeCapsule acting as a router w/ dhcp and 3 Apple AirPorts acting as access points to the TC. I have gotten reports from users that there has been random connection drops (symptom: wireless internet stops working breaking AirPlay, etc.). Is there a way to review router logs to see what happened? Are there any proactive tools I can install to monitor connection drops?
I have Logmein Central and can make one of the computers a Logmein Pro client but the alerting on that is very weak, looking for something more. Please help!

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Any definite answers to intermittent connection drops?

I've been having this problem off and on for several months- I've read lots of posts here with a wide range of different fix suggestions. Any help from somebody whose successfully troubleshot this?
My Gear: Broadband Cable Modem -to- Airport Extreme (802.11n) via ethernet.
Airport -to- iMac, a Windows laptop, and iPhone via WiFi.
My problem: All 3 clients have the same issue: The connection drops every 8 seconds. I'm connected to my network, all bars black- then I get dumped, "looking for networks" for a second or two, then it re-connects. This happens every 8 seconds like clockwork. Internet connection, e-mail, iDisk- everything affected.
What I know:
1. It is not the modem. Connected directly to the modem with ethernet, everything is fine.
2. Restarting airport does not help.
3. I don't think it's interference. The very first time I connected my Wi-Fi, I had this problem. I moved a cordless phone to the other side of the room, and the problem went away...for a few weeks. Then it came back. I did all the usual stuff, restarts, etc. nothing helped for a few days. Then suddenly the problem spontaneously went away. Been okay for about a month or so- now it's back with a vengeance.
I haven't changed service providers...BUT:
When I recently re- setup the airport while ethernet connected, Airport Utility told me that the modem did not have a valid IP address. I haven't changed anything. Modem is still the same.
How do I change the IP address? Can I do this manually? Would this cause signal drops every 8 seconds?
Judging by the posts on here- this seems to be a common problem. However, I haven't seen any common solutions. Help

3. I don't think it's interference"
I do. Every eight seconds" provides a strong hint that you are dealing with something like an RF radar sweep, or a nearby wireless security system that sends out a scanning signal about every eight seconds. A guy in the neighborhood with a ham radio that is misbehaving is a possibility as well.
I can't tell you how to actually locate the source of interference, but even if that were possible, whether it could be eliminated is another question.
I just spent a few days trying to help a friend who moved into a new apartment complex where it seems like everyone there is affected by intermittent drops on their wireless networks. When I got up on the roof, I noticed that the complex just happens to be located on a higher elevation area directly between two visible microwave transmission towers. That could also be a possibility in your case.
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How to Troubleshoot the Connection Pool Exception?

Dear Oracle Gurus, very good afternoon to you.
I'm looking forward for some tips/troubleshoting guide to escape from the below exception, that occres very frequently to one of application that 100+ users will login from different locations & work on and update the data and save their work, where all in sudden they can't acces the application and it gets down.
Most of the times in the server log I observed below.
weblogic.jdbc.extensions.PoolLimitSQLException: weblogic.common.resourcepool.ResourceLimitException: No resources currently available in pool RemoteDesktop.main to allocate to applications, please increase the size of the pool and retry..
Please help me on, how to overcome this kind of exception.
In Weblogi c server I see below kind of Warnings.
If you set the buffer size to zero in a servlet, it would fail to respond and would initiate an infinite loop in the server. WebLogic Server would ultimately display a Errors:
ExecuteThread: '157' for queue: 'weblogic.kernel.Default' has been busy for "633" seconds working on the request "Http Request: : ../updates/process_manager.jsp", which is more than the configured time (StuckThreadMaxTime) of "600" seconds.
I searched over google for this kind of error, See otherusers posted the same kind of errors but didn't have any positive replies to troubleshoot this issue.
I also got Oracle Dev link on Weblogic version upgrade product where they fixed similar kind of error it seems. Which is shown below.
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E13222_01/wls/docs61/notes/bugfixes2.html -- BUG # CR106186
details:
"Suspend Checker Thread" prio=10 tid=0x23eb90 nid=0xfec runnable
<May 14, 2003 10:53:34 AM PDT> <Warning> <WebLogicServer> <000337>
<ExecuteThread: '10' for queue: 'default' has been busy for "1,181" seconds working on the request "Http Request: servlet_uri", which is more than the configured time (StuckThreadMaxTime) of "600" seconds.>
This problem was solved with a code fix.
Looking forward for some help, Thank you inadvance.
FYI..
I'm using oracle thin driver JDBC connection/Weblogic 8.1
Edited by: user1072948 on Apr 26, 2012 11:55 AM

I agree that looking into the number of connections that you have open when you see
weblogic.jdbc.extensions.PoolLimitSQLException: weblogic.common.resourcepool.ResourceLimitException: No resources currently available in pool RemoteDesktop.main to allocate to applications, please increase the size of the pool and retry..
would be a good idea; but I would suggest that you don't increase without thinking about the consequences. I would look more closely at what the connections to the database are doing, for instance, how long are the connection being left open for? What are the queries that are being run? Should you expect to see all the connections in the connection pool being used? What is the current connection pool limit? Are you simply going to increase the number of connections to find that they are also waiting? What is the load on the database at the time?
It's the other error that you say you see
ExecuteThread: '157' for queue: 'weblogic.kernel.Default' has been busy for "633" seconds working on the request "Http Request: : ../updates/process_manager.jsp", which is more than the configured time (StuckThreadMaxTime) of "600" seconds.
What does this JSP do? Why would this be busy for so long? Is it related to the previous exception that you have? I'd ask you delevelopment team to look into this.
In short, it sounds like you have load issues on your server(s) and a careful tuning of the system after a full analysis (thread dumps, heap profiling, connection pool monitoring and code review) would probably be beneficial. It may be that restricting the thread pool may help, it may be that increasing the connection pool would help. I'd not plump for a quick fix here.

Time Capsule connectivity drops on extended network with Airport Extreme

I have a new Airport Extreme router as the main router in my network and a Time Capsule set to extend the 2.4Ghz network. The routers must be configured in this order because I want the 5Ghz network from the Extreme to cover my main seating area.
The problem I have is that while I'm connected to the Extreme, on either the 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz network, the connection to the Time Capsule will 'drop'. The network drive within the Time Capsule will no longer be available and the AirPort Utility no longer shows the Time Capsule. If I reboot the Extreme, the Time Capsule will reappear.
Also, when the connection drops, if I were to move within the primary range of the Time Capsult and connect to the 2.4Ghz network, it will connect flawlessly and I would have access to the Time Capsule and it's resources. It is only access through to the Time Capsule through the Extreme that is no longer available.
Any ideas what could be causing this? Both routers work flawlessly otherwise. I'm fairly certain there isn't a hardware problem here. I've gone through all the configuration settings multiple times and can't find anything that could affect this. I have the latest firmware for both routers and the latest AirPort utility.
One thing to note is that the Time Capsule is a North American unit, while the Extreme is from Hong Kong. I know there are slight differences regarding the wireless channels that both can use, but I don't think this is an issue since the Time Capsule maintains proper internet connectivity the whole time. If it was a channel issue, I'd expect the Time Capsule to lose internet access when this issue arrises.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

7.4.2 firmware does NOT resolve this problem.
I also have this problem -- it started about 2 weeks ago (around July 20?), possibly at the time the new Airport Extreme firmware went into effect. I have two separate Mac laptops that each use Time Machine to back up to different disks that are attached to the Airport Extreme (i.e., each laptop has its own backup-destination disk). Both were working flawlessly before (for more than 6 months); now, each one reliably drops the connection to the disk (produces an error message, and thereafter cannot re-connect to the destination disk until I cycle the Airport Extreme with power-off/on). I had hoped that 10.5.8 would help (the release notes talked about improved stability with Airport connections), but not so.

Exchange 2010 - how to troubleshoot intermittent Outlook slowness

I'm having users report intermittent Outlook slowness 2007. I can't repeat the issue exactly but I have seen it -- you get a message that says "Outlook is trying to retrieve data from <Exchange Server>" and it takes it a noticeable
amount of time. One of the difficulties in troubleshooting this is that I haven't seen it on my own machine, nor can I find the way to replicate the issue consistantly.
We actually just upgraded from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010 and never had these issues in the past.   I've run a process monitor on the server (which is about 8 times better than our old Exchange 2003 server - 2 quad-core procs and 12 GB of
RAM for about 250 mailboxes) and find nothing abnormal in terms of CPU time or network bandwidth usage (4 teamed 1 GB/s connections). I have also monitored several of the Exchange RPC items, and Client: RPCs but Client:RPCs does not return anything
at all (just 0 the whole time).   Are there other things I should be looking at with PerfMon?
I'm at a point where I'm not sure where to take my troubleshooting. Does anyone have any ideas? The fact that I (and most other users I've asked) never experience the issue leads me to believe that it might have something to do with a
local computer issue rather than a server issue, but I'm hearing reports from people with both Outlook 2007 and Outlook 2010. The other somewhat common thread is that
Outlook is NOT running in cached exchange mode, but it wasn't when we were on the 2003 server either and we did not have this issue.   Our Exchange 2010 Server is now running the new UM role, however, and we were using Cisco Unity before.
I have already disabled all Outlook add-ins and disabled anti-virus (client, but not Nod32 for Exchange).
Thanks, any ideas would be appreciated.

Forgot you're using 2010, the item counts are much more laxed, 100,000 per folder compared to 5000 in Exchange 2007. For your Outlook 2007 clients, can you confirm you're up to date on the last post hotfixes as of Feb 2011? Also I would disable caching
of shared calendars in outlook. Also note that outlook 2010 caches all shared mailboxes by default.
Turn off calendar caching. If you have Exchange in use then Outlook 2007 may well have the caching of people’s calendars turned on. This means that when you open a calendar you have to wait for the cache to populate, which can slow
things down a bit sometimes. To do this:
Go to the Tools Menu and select Account Settings
Select your Exchange Account and press the change button
Press the more settings button
Select the 2nd tab (Advanced)
Un-tick the “Download shared folders” option. Note that this will stop cached Sharepoint folders from downloading into Outlook as well.
Press OK until all options are saved.
Description of the Office Outlook 2007 hotfix package (Outlook-x-none.msp): February 22, 2011
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2475891
Description of the Outlook 2010 hotfix package (outlook-x-none.msp): February 22, 2011
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2475877
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How to troubleshoot intermittent Internet Issue at a primary school

I would change the password on your wireless and only hand it out to staff that need it or as they ask for it one by one. That gives you a way to see what is connecting to your network and when it goes down you have a small number of staff that you know have the password. I would be suspicious also of a AP possibly being set in a bridge mode and is causing a loop in your system. The DNS could also be a cell phone or cellular enabled laptop/tablet that is sharing it's connection and causing a problem with your system.

I have been struggling for three or four weeks trying to resolve this issue. I am now of the opinion that there are two different issues here each contributing to the problem.To give you a breakdown. The school has two servers, one internet caching/filtering/proxy server, 20 computers, 45 laptops (most wired in, not wireless) and a dozen ipads.About three weeks ago I received reports that the Internet was very slow and timing out frequently. After spending some time troubleshooting the issue, I decided to shut down the children's computers (unplug from network), the wireless access points and the shared area computers. I only had one switch running as I connected everything to that switch.
I left it for about three days - everything seemed to work. So I added the kids computers. Internet continued to work without any issues, but we...
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WRT54G Router Intermittent Connection Drop

To keep all of this in a nutshell, i have one WRT54G router wired to a PC and connected wirelessly to my laptop.
With the router in place, everything has been fine for over a year until last week when the router just couldnt connect to the internet. Upgrading the firmware helped a little bit, but the connection just kept on dropping ever minute (literally) and reconnecting by itself quickly. This basically meant that the connected IP address changed every single minute, making it hell for my instant messengers and downloads which disconnect every minute when the problem happens.
A direct connection without the router in place, from modem > internet is perfect, no drops whatsoever.
I went out and bought a BRAND NEW ROUTER but the same problem is happening. Ive tried everything but cant find an answer.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Guys, im reading articles on the relation between router problems and P2P programs. It does make sense, ive been disconnected because of my torrent downloads but it still doesnt make sense that the problem is the same with a BRAND NEW ROUTER.
And why doesnt the version 7 of the WRT54G have any firmware upgrades?
I'll post here if i find anything else.

Internet Connection Drop Outs when remote administ...

I did not want to trouble anyone here if I thought it unnecessary but now I feel that I do need some assistance so this warrants opening a new thread.
BT Infinity Option 2 customer with BT HH 4 and its separate modem - not hacked so cannot read any useful information or login to see what is going on and both BT and the manufacturer long ago removed the open source code of the modem.
I am quite confident now that these disconnections happen when a remote server/attacker attempts to gain access to my network. These can be from China, Iran and other places too. Sometimes Ministry of Defence? I don't know why I get these connection attempts and most of the time I see BT HH 4 does block these so why I get disconnected I have no idea?
I made a post in an old thread before opening this thread and said it was due to firmware upgrade but I misread the date! It was not updated since the 8th of May I think. These disconnections have been happening only this past 4-7 days with the most 4 days with intensity greater than the 3 before. I am not 100% certain it is caused by the remote administration that is blocked.
What happens when this takes place is the BT servers are then unreachable sometimes and I cannot regain a connection for up to 3 hours at a time, usually it is 5-10 mins max though. Without looking at my event log, any ideas?
I want to get different gear now and never wanted to use BT equipment anyway because I want greater control and options to configure. I would like to go with DD-WRT or OpenWRT Router with Integrated VDSL v2 modem. Anyone here that may suggest one that supports either of these open firmwares? Not so much the concern to prevent any security holes or backdoors but just as much if not more for versatility and configuration and just having control over my network. being able to do upgrades when I want and not when my ISP decides needs doing. And before you say BT do not have backdoors then why would they admit they can remote login to devices and storage contents with their pwerline adapters even. I remember reading a news article quoting BT as admiting this. Anyway, that is not my main concern here, as much as privacy and security is not a crime it is rather rare online. First I need to get to the root cause of this.
BT HH 4 is not reporting any DDOS attacks and even if it were I would not expect to experience any disconnection. I used to get tons of floods from DDOS attacks years ago when using Netgear routers and never exeprienced any downtime, but that was with another ISP. I don't detect any malware or anything like that and rarely download anything on this machine, I know web browsing can infect a system but I don't think that is it.
I want to go back to how I used to do things. Any help with this is appreciated. I will need to get my router login details because I was never given those when I singed up with BT Infinity Option 2. I don't even know what my BT email is but do believe there is a way to recover that under my account. **In the past we have had intermittent connection drops and loss of sync but this is not the same right now.
Edit:
** Just to clarify that was before we upgraded to BT Infinity Opt 2. This is the first time any probs with this service since upgrade and that must be about 6 months or more now.

When running BT HH diagnostic it printed out that the username for login had changed and needed resetting or for me to enter my own in that I was NOT given! Anyway, when going to select manual reset it had not changed from default at all so I think this is just some default BT diagnostic that is false. I realise that other BT customers are affected by this with the BT HH5 but mine is HH4...my posting probably isn't as clear right now as I have not slept as much past few nights trying to figure this out. This is happening at different times of the day but more often during early hours.
So I am getting these WGET TLS error(s)
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How on earth could I be connecting to the Internet through my airport express when it is not connected to anything?

I'm not entirely displeased with the situation but I cannot see how I could be connecting to the Internet through my airport express when the Airport is not connected to anything.
Weird huh?
I have a separate non- Airport wireless network connected to the Internet. I had previously set-up the Airport to link with this network but disconnected it (by resetting it) as music streaming was unlistenable due to frequent drop out. I now just have the Airport Express as a standalone wireless network only connecting to the stereo to stream music from devices.
My devices are only connected to the Airport network with cellular data off. Yet I can still connect to the Internet AND listen to streaming music (without drop-out no less).
I don't want to fix it but I would like to know how the frag it could happen so i don't screw it up accidentally.

I would say you still have something of the previous setup.
To be sure you don't mess up, save the configuration.. go to the top menu area of the airport utility and export configuration.. which will land on your computer.
Now you can recover at anytime to the current setup.
How it works.. that is magical ..
Open the airport utility.. edit.. and take a screenshot and post it of the following pages..
Internet wireless network
THen we can tell you how it is working.

Wireless connections drops after AirPort Extreme 2007-001 Update

Hello, I am getting a lot of wireless connection drops since I installed the AirPort Extreme 2007-001 Update. Anyone has similar issue? Any fix?

Well, I was conneting to the University's wireless server (which is maintained and huge) flawlessly prior to the update. My friend has a macbook pro and didn't apply the update and he has no problem. I installed the update and since then I'm having a hard time connecting to ANY wireless server/router.
I came across the following, looks like a lot of other persons are having the same issue:
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20070202141024604
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Wifi Connection drops but still have all bars. Please Apple, respond us

I have a macbook pro 13''(purchased 1 month), a white macbook (bought in 2007) and a dell vostro 1310 (with windows 7) using the same router WRT54G2 Linksys or D-link 524
Only on my macbook pro 13''my connection drops without explanation and without a certain period (15 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hours).
I'm with latest updates (both macbook as a router), already formatted and applied the 10.6.4 combo. I have already put ip manually turned off DHCP, DNS already placed manually, I swapped the channel router. Everything recommended in official forums, but nothing helped.
What makes me saddest is that Apple does not respond. Even with so many threads about this problem.

Look at iOS Troubleshooting Wi-Fi networks and connections http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1398
iPad: Issues connecting to Wi-Fi networks http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3304
iOS: Recommended settings for Wi-Fi routers and access points http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4199
Additional things to try.
Try this first. Turn Off your iPad. Then turn Off (disconnect power cord) the wireless router & then back On. Now boot your iPad. Hopefully it will see the WiFi.
Go to Settings>Wi-Fi and turn Off. Then while at Settings>Wi-Fi, turn back On and chose a Network.
Change the channel on your wireless router. Instructions at http://macintoshhowto.com/advanced/how-to-get-a-good-range-on-your-wireless-netw ork.html
Another thing to try - Go into your router security settings and change from WEP to WPA with AES.
How to Quickly Fix iPad 3 Wi-Fi Reception Problems
http://osxdaily.com/2012/03/21/fix-new-ipad-3-wi-fi-reception-problems/
If none of the above suggestions work, look at this link.
iPad Wi-Fi Problems: Comprehensive List of Fixes
http://appletoolbox.com/2010/04/ipad-wi-fi-problems-comprehensive-list-of-fixes/
Fix iPad Wifi Connection and Signal Issues http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwWtIG5jUxE
Unable to Connect After iOS Update - saw this solution on another post.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4010130?tstart=60
Note - When troubleshooting wifi connection problems, don't hold your iPad by hand. There have been a few reports that holding the iPad by hand, seems to attenuate the wifi signal.
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If any of the above solutions work, please post back what solved your problem. It will help others with the same problem.
 Cheers, Tom

Everything in my house is working fine on my wireless connection except my apple tv will not connect. how do i fix this?

i have no idea how to fix this. any help would be greatly appreciated

Morning foley13,
Thanks for using Apple Support Communities.
You can resolve many Wi-Fi issues by checking your network connection settings.
For more information on this, take a look at this article:
Apple TV (2nd and 3rd generation): Troubleshooting Wi-Fi networks and connections
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4546
Best of luck,
Mario

HT204291 3th. gen apple TV with 5.2.1 and mac mini with 10.8.3, only black screen on TV after selecting Apple TV on the airplay icon. how to troubleshoot?

I have a 3th Gen Apple TV and a late 2012 mac mini with IOS 10.8.3
- Connected thru HDMI to an ASUS monitor
- Apple tv connected with wire
- Mac Mini connected wireless.
- I can see the Airplay icon on the screen
- I can select my apple TV on the icon pull-down menu (first time it asked me for apple TV password)
- Once selected, my monitor resolution changes and apple TV goes to a blank screen. On the pull-down menu, my apple TV papears selected and the option "match desktop size to:" is selected for my Apple TV.
Any ideas on how to troubleshoot?
Additional Info:
- I can stream from iTunes music with no problem
- From an Air (on same wireless network) I can mirror my display. And form iPad and iPhone I can stream video and music.

Welcome to the Apple Community.
Try the following steps, check whether things are working after each step where appropriate, before trying the next.
Check AirPlay is turned on on the Apple TV (turn it off and on if it already is)
Check that both devices are on the same network (Settings > Wifi, on the mobile device and Settings > General > Network, on the Apple TV).
Restart the Apple TV (Settings > General > Restart).
Restart the Apple TV by removing ALL the cables for 30 seconds.
Restart your router. (Also try removing it’s power cord for at least 30 seconds)
Restart your mobile device.
If you are still having problems, the following article(s) may help you.
Troubleshooting AirPlay
Troubleshooting Wi-Fi networks and connections
Recommended Wi-Fi settings
Wifi Diagnostic Software (for Mac users)
You may also find some help on this page, where I’ve collected some of the more unusual solutions to network issues.
When making adjustments to your network for better optimisation, you may find some of the points mentioned on this page helpful.

Intermittent Wireless Connection, Dropping Wireless Connection

I am asking this in hopes of finding at least some way to diagnose my problem and hopefully eventually solving it. My wireless connection currently drops at varying amounts of time. Sometimes I can go 20mins others merely 5mins. The Airport reads that I am still connected and have a strong connection but when I try to navigate to a page with the browser (either firefox or safari) it merely times out after trying to load the page for up to a few minutes. I have changed the channel and frequency of my router (first router I tried was a Trendnet TEW-432BRP) and I have no cordless phones or other possible wireless obstructions. (I do have a very very infrequently used microwave but being that it's on the other side of the house and I can be sitting next to the router I doubt this is the culprit)
Then I tried changing routers to a Belkin N1 Vision router. Same issues. Additionaly worth noting all other PC's and linux machines on my network (about 4-5 other computers) all work just fine with out dropping their connections (with both routers).
Then I brought my original machine (a white macbook less than a year old) into the apple store, thinking at this point it was a hardware problem with my machine. They the replaced the airport card twice and the logicboard once. Eventually decideing that they should just replace the whole machine. Now with my new unibody I thought I had finally illeviated the problem but now I am having the same issues with an intermittent connection again.
If I turn off the Airport card and turn it back on again usually it will reconnect and allow me to browse again. But not always. The odd part is that generally when using another program that accesses the net the connection does not seem to be interrupted (such as with bit torrent). Very odd.
Anyway I tried using my computer at a friends house with the same trendnet router (his router but same model) and still the connection issues persist. Any ideas on what I can do or try to at least even begin to understand why this is happening would be helpful. I want very much to get to the bottom of this. Thanks for your help.

You didn't get the Apple Store to replace a white MacBook with a unibody?!
Anyhow - the connection problems could easily relate to an incompatibility between OS X and the router in question. Or it could simply be a setting on the router that isn't working well. To assist in the diagnosis... can you please supply:
1) The security mode of the router? (WEP or WPA/WPA2 and AES or TKIP).
2) The network mode (G/N)?
3) The signal strength as reported by Airport (RSSI)
You can get most of this information (all except the security mode) by holding the option key down whilst clicking on the Airport icon in Finder. For the security setting you can go to your routers configuration screen (or you can get it from the command line).
Cheers,
Rodney

I kept having errors on my Apple ID with frostycup=1 and STATUS_CODE_ERROR. How to troubleshoot them?

How to troubleshoot them and eliminate the frostycup=1 and STATUS_CODE_ERROR.

Hey Lee,
To make sure we are on the same page you are trying to access and download content the Mac App Store. From the time of your post, I do know that the multiple online stores were having issues with accessing content. Any time you have issues with connecting to any store, take a look at the link below to check the status of all of Apple’s services. If you cannot access that content now let me know.
Apple Services, Stores, and iCloud
https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/
Take care,
-Norm G.

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