IDoc Packaging in IDoc 2 IDoc Scenario

Hi every one,
Can anyone please throw some light on the following:
Use of Idoc packaging in an Idoc2Idoc scenario. I dont have any clue about this.
Reg,

This should be rather straight forward, if you are using XI to pass IDocs from system to system then you actually don't really have to do any mapping. There are some other good discussions on this topic:
idoc to idoc
IDOC packaging
Re: IDOC to IDOC Scenario
This is a good document on the topic:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/cdded790-0201-0010-6db8-beb9bb2b2660
You can import the IDoc data types and go about creating the rest of your scenario, usnig the IDoc adapters and ALE
I would definitely also check out this document on configuring the IDoc adapter:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/d19fe210-0d01-0010-4094-a6fba344e098

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Thanks
abhinaya4321
Edited by: abhinaya4321 on Dec 3, 2011 12:15 PM

hi,
We are using PI 7.11. And, I have a File to Idoc scenario. I am trying to find an Idoc packaging option for Receiver Idoc adapter. Any suggestions on how to do configure ?
that is possible with message packaging concept it is suitable for you requirement
go through below links:
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/10b54994-f569-2a10-ad8f-cf5c68a9447c.
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/10b54994-f569-2a10-ad8f-cf5c68a9447c?QuickLink=index&overridelayout=true
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IDOC Packaging Sender CC

Hi Gurus,
I've been using IDOC packaging in the IDOC sender communication channel very well without any problems so far.
Most of my scenarios I have to group several IDOCS and generate just one file, and using the new functionality I can reach my scenario easily and with good performance.
However I am trying to configure this same thing for a new IDOC, but it's not working.
So, I've checked the option in IDOC sender communication channel as usual, set up the size for 9999, I go to we20 and change the partner profile to collect IDOCs and also set it up to 9999 as package size. Following this blog. IDoc Packaging - SAP PI 7.1 EHP1 (and above)
However for this new configuration, when I trigger 2 or 3 IDOCS at the same time it creates 2 or 3 messages in PI as well, and it should create just ONE message in PI. What make me confuse is If I trigger 2 or 3 IDOCS for the other type of IDOC, regarding the old configuration it works...just one message is created in PI
So I am really confused why for this IDOC is not working and for the OLD configuration is working. Am I missing something ?
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BEst REgards
Diego

Hi All,
Yes, I had done everything
In fact I wanted to see the IDOC being collapsed with several IDOC nodes in the monitoring.
So the problem was solved quite easily I was triggering the IDOC through the program and the OutPut node was in blank and by default is set to 2 (transfer immediately) it skips the configuration that you have done in we20 and do it by itself.
So I put the propoer Output mode (4) and it worked well
Thank you for the answers
Regards
Diego

Idoc packaging questions

Hi
I am aware that in Idoc packaging how Sender Idoc adapter packaging is done and also know that it is available from PI7.11
I have 2 questions...
1. Suppose there is a data issue with a single idoc ,,because of that entire package will fail...then it would call for finding the erroneous idoc ...correct the data and resend all the Idocs again..
This problem can occur again and again...and because of this the entire package will be stopped..
So is it a good option to not do packaging and send a single Idoc and insert it as a record in target database.
2. In case i am doing idoc packaging the occurence of IDOC in mapping will still be 1..1.
How do i manage my mapping such that each Idoc in the package should insert a separate record in the database table
Hema

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> 2. In case i am doing idoc packaging the occurence of IDOC in mapping will still be 1..1.
>
> How do i manage my mapping such that each Idoc in the package should insert a separate record in the database table
>
Map IDoc to access tag, in this case one record for each IDoc will get inserted.

Query realted to IDOC packaging in case of IDOC-SAPPI- FILE scenario

Hi,
I have requirement related to IDOC packaging, i.e. SAP ECC -SAP PI - FTP server.
I have done the following settings:
1) In WE20, I put the partner profile settings to collect mode.
2) I am using RSEOUT00 to trigger the collected IDOCs for example 2 idocs together.
3) In SAP PI, I have done the following settings
a) I added the the parameter in sxmb-adm, RUNTIME , PACKAGING & Value 1
b) I have used IDXPW t-code to activate the message packages for IDOC
c) I run the job through sxmb_adm t-code, configure event driven message filtering
d) I exported the xsd of ORDERS05 and changed occurence of source structure to 0 to Unbounded and imported it in Integration Repository.
e) I am not using mapping & interface mapping as I just want to post the IDOC structure as it to the receiving FTP server. Therefore when I changed the occurence of ORDERS05 xsd to 0 to unbounded my idea was that in the outbound message interface it will be reflected which will be ultimately reflected in Integration directory.
Problem Details:
When I test for the 2 PO idoc from SAP ECC, it generates 2 messages in SAP PI and also 2 files in FTP server but actually it should generate one output file containing both the IDOC details.
Note: I am just trying to merge 2 idocs of PO as IDOC package into one output message.
Can anybody what configuration settings I am missing for the packaging.
Thanks & Regards
Prabhat

Hi Prabhat,
If you are using PI 7.0 EHp1 or PI 7.1 Ehp1, you can configure packaging parameter and create single file for multiple idocs without using BPM.
In other case, you have to use BPM.
But recommended approach would be to create XML file port on SAP ECC and create IDOC XML file.
You must have set collect IDOCs option in partner profile.
Now you can execute RSEOUT00 report program and specify IDOC type and number IDOCs to be collected.
This configuration will generate IDOC XML file for number IDOCs you specified in RSEOUT00 report program.
In PI you can use File adapter to pick the file.
Here is the nice blog explaining entire process:
/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm
Best Regards,
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Deactivate Idoc packaging in PI 7.1

Hi,
We know that Packaging by default enabled in PI 7.1 but we want to turn off this feature for Idoc processing. Could you please help me in turning off this feature? Thank you very much in advance.

From 7.1 forth, the IDOC packaging is the same as the regular packaging. So, to disable for IDOC scenarios, please go to the SXMS_BCM transaction and set the interfaces that shouldn't have packaging to "NO". This should disable the packaging for specific scenarios.

IDOC packaging/No packaging - need either/or depending on receiver

Hello IDOC adapter gurus,
We have an existing scenario with IDOC packaging, in which the message goes to multiple receivers . The client wants to OMIT idoc packaging for a single one of the receivers. Since the packaging is done in the sender adapter, how can I accomplish this in XI? A separate Partner Profile is already set up for this receiver in the sending system, so that side is not a problem.
One idea I'm exploring would be to create a new sender comm channel without packaging and a new Sender Agreement with Virtual Receiver and select the receiver in question, however I can't find enough documentation on the VR feature. Would that work? Any other ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Carlos

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Carlos Herrera wrote:
> Hi Ravikanth,
>
> Yes, I intend to do that, but the question is, will that be enough since it will still go through the comm channel that has idoc packaging configured? In other words, will the comm channel package size act as a "max size" or "min size"?
>
> Thanks.
> Carlos
if it is configured to be not do the collect at the partner profile end, you dont have to worry.
the IDoc adapter will not do any collect even if the package size is set.

PI 7.1 EHP1 : IDoc packaging

Guys
I am currently on PI 7.1 EHP1 , Trying to do Idoc packaging for one scenario , I am not sure what size I have to put in the tab
( IDoc package size ) in sender IDoc channel . I also donot know the frequency of IDocs . I saw one video in it it was told that the package size shouldnot exceed 2MB size .
Please help in this regard
Regards
Ninad

Hi Ninad,
I had used IDOC packaging in one of my scenario, which is very similar to yours. I dont know how many idoc are coming from source system. I put 100 in the IDOC package size parameter. when you put 100 in this parameter it will create a file wil maximum 100 idocs if your system is sending more than 100 than it will create send file
For example from source system you are getting 150 idocs so 2 files will be created
file1 conatins 100 idocs, file2 contains 50 idocs
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Shradha

What is the difference beween idoc package and idoc collection

Hi friends,
    i am unable to understand difference betwen Idoc package and Idoc cillection.
    Please give me clear clarification.
Thanks and regards
Bhanu

Hi Bhanu,
Apart from the replies above, in case you're looking for an answer from ECC perspective, here are some inputs: (ECC is considered as sender here)
1. IDoc Collection:
   This will collect the IDocs and will not immediately send it to the target system after they are created. Program RSEOUT00 can be later scheduled for these collected IDocs to deliver them to the target. You can treat this as a park and process approach which proves useful in several business scenarios.
This standard link gives more insight:
SAP Library - IDoc Interface/ALE
2. IDoc Packaging:
    This defines the number of IDocs to be packed and sent in 1 RFC call (tRFC). If you set is as 20, then 20 IDocs will be sent in 1 tRFC request. This doesn't connote whether the IDocs will be triggered immediately or later, this just talks about the bundling of IDocs per RFC call.
Hope this helps.
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IDOC Packaging Problem

Hello all,
I have below scenario,
collect multiple IDOCs and process them in single file. I did all the configuration for message Packaging. The messages are getting executed after the specified interval but not in single message they processed seperatly and and creating file per IDOC.
Is there any one came across this scenario. please help me out in this. What is going wrong in this?

Hi,
>>>Actully, i am using below configuration, does anyone know if this configuration will work for IDOC packaging.
no, the blog you mention has nothing to do with IDOC packaging into one file
only this one works:
/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2010/01/22/idoc-packaging--sap-pi-71-ehp1-and-above
but as I already mentioned it I guess you're not reading my answers
Regards,
Michal Krawczyk

Idoc packaging at sender side

Hi all,
What is Idoc Packaging?
I have a scenario(Idoc to file) where sender is sending multiple idocs and I have to collect it without using BPM is it possible? Can Idoc Packaging help me in this.. If yes kindly give me all the development details too.
Thanks in advance,
Anu Singhal

Hi Anu,
Please look into the below thread for michal's answer:
IDOC Packaging on outbound side
You can refer the below blog for collecting multiple idocs without using BPM in the sender system only.
/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm
Refer the below link for info on idoc packaging:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/877c0d53-0801-0010-3bb0-e38d5ecd352c
Also:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change
Regards,
Prasanthi.

IDoc Packaging + Ack ALEAUD = bad behavior ?

Hi,
I'm in version PI 7.11 and I'm studying the IDoc packaging of EhP1 with Acknowledgment (ALEAUD).
My scenario is a basic one: File -> PI --> ECC (100 idocs). And then ECC returns Ack.
So for the returned Acknowledgment, I have that:
- on ECC, I did ALE config, and I run programs RBDSTATE / RSEOUT00 to create one IDoc ALEAUD (Ack).
- In PI, I use a sender CC (Idoc adapter) by using option "Idoc Packaging".
- In PI, I use a Sender Agreement with Idoc ECC's ALEAUD and this sender CC.
- In PI, I use program IDX_ALEREQUEST on ECC's ALEAUD idoc.
My problem is:
ECC send me ONE idoc ALEAUD which contains 100 segments corresponding to 100 Idocs received at the first step. BUT even if I used the "Idoc Packaging"... in IDX5 of PI, I have not one idoc ALEAUD, but I have 100 Idocs ALEAUD !
And so after that my mapping is run 100 times instead of one ! Image if I need to return an email... with this PI behaviour, I will send 100 "Ack" emails.
So does somebody know why IDoc Packaging does not work with ALEAUD whereas program IDX_ALEREQUEST is correctly used ?
Thanks
Mickael
Note: I don't want to have to create a BPM to collect my ALEAUD Idocs. That's too heavy...
And (for the moment), I don't want to create a specific ZALEAUD idoc...

Hi Prashant,
yes, I did not precise it, but of course IDXNOALE is used, else PI will generate an Ack of this ECC's ALEAUD... so a ack of a ack... but it's not really my problem.
what I say is:
- Request : PI -> 100 idocs MATMAS (for instance)
- Ack : ECC return to PI only one idoc ALEAUD with 100 segments "E1STATE" corresponding to the 100 idocs MATMAS.
- Ack : PI receive this only one ALEAUD... but in IDX5 and in SXI_MONITOR, we see in fact 100 IDocs ALEAUD with 1 segment E1STATE, instead of having only one idoc ALEAUD (like in ECC side) !
So I'm searching a way to keep in PI the only one Idoc ALEAUD sent by ECC, in order to be able (for instance) to send only one email (and not 100 emails like it's the case for the moment).
Regards
Mickael

IDOCs Packaging ? Need some clarification ;-)

Team,
Simple scenario:
=> JMS (xml) --> ( XI ) --> (IDOCs) --> SAP ECC.
This is scenario working fine.
However, If we have 10 IDOC, we have 10 LUW on the backend system (not good for the performance).
To avoid these multiple luw, we are using the IDOC packaging approach (no ccBPM) the wizard (idxpw).
So
1) XML messages are coming in XI
2) Since we have a filter (sxmsfilter), messages are kept aside for a while
3) Until a job (created using idxpw) wake up and start processing the messages
Our questions:
When does the packaging trick arrive ? We do not see the messages in IDXP (with the package icon), but with the yellow dot
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MO A+

Hi XI Team,
Have a look at Sravya's blog
/people/sravya.talanki2/blog/2005/12/09/xiidoc-message-packages
Usually IDOC packaging is created at the sender side as explained in the blog. Have never tried IDOC packaging at receiver end.
In our case, we changed the IDOC XSD to unlimited and used it. It will create a single message in XI.
But in R/3 it is not an IDOC package. It will be a collection of IDOC. Each will trigger a new LUW.
Hope the weblog will give you some idea. If you are able to create an IDOC package at th R/3 do update us. I will give this scenario a try tomo. It is 12:20AM my time
Good Luck
Regards,
Jaishankar

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Hi Experts,
I am testing IDoc Packaging on Event Driven Message Processing and I got struck at scheduling the job.
My scenario is IDoc to File. I have created sender and receiver id with coresponding interfaces. While creating the message filter I have selected outbound channel --> IDoc Packaging Option n I have took 10 as Package Size in Messages. In SM 36 I have created JOB and in the step I have selected SXMS_START_JOBS.
Now my problem is while creating the JOB in SM36 what condition should I select? How do I test this event driven message processing with IDoc packaging??
Please guide me...
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SAPTOTAL

in the event, you should also have a job for RSEOUT00 scheduled so that the IDocs are send out as a package

IDOC Package

Hi Guys,
I have the following scenario WS->XI->IDOC but in this scenario there will be several calls from WS and we want to send an IDOC Package.
I have seen some blogs regarding the collector pattern on BPM but in some of them I have seen that there is a performance issue with this solution.
I saw also the Srayva's Blog XI:IDOC Message Package but the scenario is IDOC-XI-File and I was wondering if I can apply this solution to my scenario? or do you know more solutions?
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Omar Hernandez

hi,
if you call WS several times you need to use collect pattern
you can find more about IDOC bundling in my book:
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2006/10/11/xi-new-book-mastering-idoc-business-scenarios-with-sap-xi"><b>Mastering IDoc Business Scenarios with SAP XI</b></a>
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<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/06/28/xipi-faq-frequently-asked-questions"><b>XI / PI FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions</b></a>

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