Import Oracle Designer Model

Hello,
I have a client who maintains their data model in an old Oracle Designer 6.0 model repository. I would like to help them migrate from this very old data model to SQL Developer Data Modeler, if possible. With what versions of Oracle Designer repository is SQL Developer Data Modeler compatible with for model import?
Thanks in advance.

Thanks Phillip, but I was actually referring to the version level of the Designer repository itself, not the database instance in which it resides. I seem to remember that you could not upgrade your Designer repository without also upgrading the Oracle Designer client as well; hence my question about compatibility between SQL Developer Data Modeler and various Repository versions.

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