In case of returns,will there be order related billing?

Hi,
In case of returns,will there be order related billing or the delivery related billing?

Hi,
The credit memo is issued even if the return delivery and the goods receipt are not created as it is order related billing except if you put a billing block on the return order but as soon as you will remove the billing block on the return order, the credit memo will be issued event if delivery is not created and goods have not been received.
This is strange but certainly german people are confident enough to reimburse their customers even if the goods have not yet been received.
Myriam.

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Hi, how order related billing returns and credit memo's handled

hi,
sap gurus,
i am able to configure the order related billing business process and
plz requesting to explain the how to handle returns process for the same and
how i can raise credit memo for the same process.
regards,
balaji.t
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Step 1: Sales Document Type
IMG > Sales and Distribution > Sales > Sales Documents >
Sales Document Header:
1. Sales Document Type:The sales document types represent the different business transactions, such as Inquiry, Quotation, Sales Order, etc. To create new sales order type, always copy as with reference to similar sales order. If possible use standard sales order.
2. Define Number Ranges For Sales Documents: Maintain number range with discussion with core team.
3. Assign Sales Area To Sales Document Types:
A. Combine sales organizations / Combine distribution channels / Combine divisions: Ensure to maintain these, else Sales Order creation will give error.
B. Assign sales order types permitted for sales areas: Assign only required Sales Order Types to required Sales Area. This will minimize selection of Sales Order Type as per sales area.
Sales Document Item:
1. Define Item Categories: If possible use Standard Item Category. Incase if required to create new, copy as from standard & maintain New. (Item Category TAD is used for order related billing & in Material Master Item Category group is LEIS)
2. Assign Item Categories: If possible, use standard. Formula for deriving item category: Sales Document Type + Item Category Group + Usage + Higher Level Item Category = Item Category
Schedule Line:
1. Define Schedule Line Categories: If possible use Standard Schedule Lines. Incase if required to create new, copy as from standard & maintain New.
2. Assign Schedule Line Categories: If possible, use standard. Formula for deriving Schedule Line: Item Category + MRP Type / No MRP Type.
Step 2:
IMG > Sales and Distribution > Billing >
1. Define Billing Types: If possible use Standard Billing Type. Incase if required to create new, copy as from standard & maintain New.
2. Define Number Range For Billing Documents: Ensure to maintain number range.
3. Maintain Copying Control For Billing Documents: Maintain relevant copy controls such as Sales Order to Billing, Deliver to Billing, etc.
Note: Ensure that Copy Control settings are done
Sales Order to Billing (OR --> F1): VTFA
Billing to Sales Order (F2 --> RE): VTAF
The configuration differs from scenario to scenario & requirement of the client.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
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Delivery Related Billing rather than Order Related Billing in Return Sales

Hi
There is a requirement from the client that the Returns Invoice (RE) generated must be related to LR Delivery Type rather than Return Sales Order Type(RE).
I have maintained the Copy Control from LR (Returns Delivery Type) to RE(Returns Invoice Type).
Then Changed the billing relevance of REN (Item Category ) from - 'B' Relevant for order-related billing - status acc.to order qty
to A Delivery-related billing document.
When i create the Returns Invoice, it is allowing me to create the Invoice even before the Post Goods Receipt of the LR Returns Delivery Document.
It should allow me to create the invoice only after Post Goods Receipt.
Can any one share their inputs.
Regards
Mohan

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Invoice is not getting created in Order related billing

Dear all,
I am trying to do a Order related billing. After creating the order i am going to VF01 and selecting the billing type i have created and trying to create the invoice. I am getting the error "No billing documents were generated. See log" when i am checking the Log its showing now errors.
In case if my account determination procedure is wrong, system should allow me to create a Sales invoice and accounting document will not be generated. But in this case even the sales invoice is also not getting created.
Please suggest me if there are any configuration changes i need to do to overcome this problem.

Apart from the suggestion already given, also ensure that
the order is not showing in incomplete log
the order is not blocked for credit limit
You can also cross check in VF04 whether system is fetching that sale order. For information, once you execute VF04, by default, system will check only "Delivery related" check box. You have to manually select "Order related" check box.
G. Lakshmipathi

Order related billing

27.01.2011
Hi friends,
I am trying to create order related billing. The material is a service, but i need to have a delivery created in the background.
I have created an order and the delivery is created automatically.
But when i am trying to create an invoice F1 against this sales order the log shows
Order quantity 1 not equal to goods issue 0.
in the item category the billing relevance is 'B" relevant for order related billing - status according to order qty.
In the copy control for F1 billing type and orer type OR the billing quantity indicator is 'C' order quantity.
Can someone suggest the reason for the error message.
Regards,
Uday

HI,
Order related billing is applicable to service order processing. So, there is no need of delivery document here.
For your case:
In a delivery document the u2018Delivery quantityu2019 and u2018Picked Quantityu2019 should be same. In your case, the picked quantity is zero. This is the reason for error message. The picking quantity should be 1.
You can make the item as u2018Not relevant for pickingu2019 at Delivery item category level in customization. Then the Picked quantity field will be greyed. It will not throw error.
Regards,
K Bharathi

Order related billing for item category

Hi Gurus,
Can you please suggest what option should I choose in Billing category for making it relevant for billing. ex c,f,g etc
It is the item for return and be used in credit memo with order related billing.
So flow is like this-
Return Order-Return Delivery-Credit Memo.
Thanks
Bawa

Hi there,
You should make order related billing only (here it means return order related).
Since you already determine a pricing proc for your returns, it will adopt the same billing.
Regards,
Sivanand

Foreign Trade / Intrastat - data order-related billing (downpayments)

Hi,
Shortly we have implemented the down payment functionality in our flows. Because downpayments require order-related billing the intrastat/foreign trade data is not copied into the closing invoice.
Apparently it is only possible to copy the data from a delivery.
We are in a make-to-order environment and we still create deliveries but because of the down payments, the invoice is created from the sales order and hence no intrastat data is copied which ofcourse is required ...
Can't find a suitable user exit for filling this data into the billing document. Also tried using copy data transfer (vofm) filling up tables eikp and eipo but that didn't work.
The only option open for me at the moment is creating a proforma invoice automatically from the delivery. This document can then be included in the intrastat reporting.
Is there another solution ?
with regards

Hi,
in the copy control between order and invoice you need to set the 'determine export data' to 'B' so that it will be redetermined in the invoice. After that the relevant foreign trade userexits will work as well.
Balazs

For third-party order related billing based on GR

Hi Gurus,
I have special requirement.
In third party Processing we want to do statistical goods Goods Receipt.
generally we do billing based on the setting in Item category TAS billing relevance "F" So system will allow billing once we do MIRO.
Now i want to Do billing based on GRN.. is there any way for that????
I tried with the option "G" . but it is not working. Is there any Settings i need to in Copy controls.?????
     Not relevant for billing
A     Delivery-related billing document
B     Relevant for order-related billing - status acc.to order qty
C     Relevant for ord.-related billing - status acc.to target qty
D     Relevant for pro forma
*F     Order-related billing doc. - status according to invoice qty*
G     Order-related billing of the delivery quantity
H     Delivery-related billing - no zero quantities
I     Order-relevant billing - billing plan
J     Relevant for deliveries across EU countries
K     Delivery-related invoices for partial quantity
L     Pro forma - no zero quantities
M     Delivery-related invoices-no zero qtys (incl main batch itm)
N     Pro forma - no zero quantities (including main batch items)
P     Delivery-related invoices for CSFG - No batch split items
Q     Delivery-related invoices for CRM
R     Delivery-related invoices for CRM - No zero quantities
S     IBS-DI: Order-Related Bill. Doc. with DP w/o Billing Plan
T     Delivery-related CRM billing with IC billing in CRM
U     Deliv.-rel. CRM billing w. IC billing in CRM - no zero qties
your immediate Reply will be highly appreciated .
Thanks
Pradeep

Hi
You can make the control setting as to whether the invoice receipt quantity or the goods receipt quantity should be relevant for billing in the copy control for billing on the item level in the billing quantity field.
In Customizing, choose Sales and Distribution -> Billing -> Billing documents -> Maintain Copying Control for Billing Documents -> Copying Control: Delivery to Billing Document -> Item, then select an item category.
Thanks & Regards
Kishore

Order Related Billing - Overall Status B after billing

We have changed billing relevance of our order related billing item category to B (Relevant for order-related billing - status acc.to order qty) and the copy control to the billing document to E (Goods receipt quantity less invoiced quantity).
This now allows us to bill these sales orders based on the GR and not wait on the IR.
However, how can we control the overall status of the sales order item billed? When billed partially, the overall status is set to B (Being Processed).
I see no process, except changing order quantity which will set this overall status to C.
I see COMPLETION RULE but after setting this and completing billing, the overall status is still BEING PROCESSED. I assume this is because the copy control from sales document to billing document does not have an 'update document flow' option.
Is the solution a custom routine in the copy control?
Thanks

hello, jim.
the system behavior is correct. in a purely order-billing scenario, the status remains as "being processed" because you have not completely billed the item, and there are quantities that are still to be invoiced.
if the open balance is no longer to be billed, in general we "reject" the open items. this action completes the line item status. if there are no other line items in the order, the entire document will also be completed.
i think you have a third party transaction. when you say "partially billed", are you referring to quantities invoiced based on GR, which may be less than the order quantity? if so, rejecting open quantities in the sales order should complete the order.
regards.

Order-related billing and Dlv-related Billing in single Invoice

Say in a single order or order type say OR there can be two materials with different item categories say TAN and ZTAN.
TAN with billing relevance as A( delivery related billing) and ZTAN with billing relevance as B (order related billing )
If that happens the billing will be split
In VOV8 we mention for OR the order related billing as F1 and delivery related billing as F2 in the billing tab
Now in billing TAN will pick F2 as it is delivery related billing
and
ZTAN will pick F1 as it is order related billing.
Now my question:
In VOV8, i maintained OR order type for Order-realted Billing as F2 and Delivery-related Billing as F2 as well.
Then will there still be an billing split ? There will be two F2 invoices TAN will pick one F2 invoice and ZTAN will pick another F2 invoice...?
And i want to know whether this an right way of doing things?? IF not, what is the right way of doing things?
Thank you very much.

Hello,
Yes that is the right way.
You can create Single Invoice for Order Related Items & Delivery Related Items.
E.g. You are Selling Air Conditioner & also installing the same at Customer Location. Now you will Invoice the Customer for Air Conditioner & Installation in the same Billing Correct? Now Air Conditioner is Delivery Related Billing & Installation is Order Related Billing.
It is in such scenario Order Releted & Delivery Related Items can be Invoiced in same Billing Document.
While create Invoice enter the Delivery Number & the Sales Order Number, select both the LIne Items & Execute... You will see the system will pick items from both Order & Delivery.
Hope this helps,
Thanks,
Jignesh Mehta

Can Billing Quantity be Different from Order Quantity in Order Related Bill

Hi
I have encountered a scenario here at my client.
My client wants that the billing document should be created with reference to Sales Order but only that value of invoice should be relseased to accounting which is delivered.
For example,
Sales Order = 10 units
Billing Document= 10 units
Delivery = 5 Units
Released to Accounting Value = Eqvalent to 5 Units which are delivered.
Reason why Sales Order and Billing should be of same quantity is that when a customer asks for an order confirmation, he requires Billing document for legal purposes but they want to hit their G/L's only on the basis of Quantity Delivered. As they are not aware when the customer come back to pick his remaining quantity. So they do not want to hit their accounting based on Sales Order quantity.
Any ideas?

Hi,
If billing has to be posted only after delivery, it is a clear case of Delivery related Billing. It is not order related billing.
You SHOULD have the following scenarios here.
Have a normal order and have Proforma invoice linked to it with the condition that the quantity in proforma invoice should be the same as order.
However do the actual invoice after doing delivery for the order. In this case, the posting will be only for the quantity delivered. You can change the quantity in proforma invoice when you are creating the same from order. So that reqmt is also taken care of.
I dont think of any other scenario where you can meet both reqmts.
Hope this helps

Cash sales Order Related Billing

Dear Forum Members
Hi
I need clarification on the following. Both in cash sales and regular sales orders , delivery , PGI and then billing is involved. So why we call cash sales process as order related billing. I find that unless goods are posted in cash sales delivery , invoice can not be created like in normal sales order. Request your inputs
Thanks in advance
regards
narasimha

I need clarification on the following. Both in cash sales and regular sales orders , delivery , PGI and then billing is involved. So why we call cash sales process as order related billing. I find that unless goods are posted in cash sales delivery , invoice can not be created like in normal sales order. Request your inputs
Hi narsimha
There is a lot of difference between cash sales order and normal sales order
The differences are
cash sale document type - BV , standard sales order document type - OR
Item category for cash sale is BVN and normal cash sales order it is TAN.
In VOV8, if you go to BV document type details , shipping conditions will be on where as in OR , shipping conditions will not be on .
In cash sale order , automatically a delivery number will be created in the background once you save the cash sale order , whereas in normal sales order , after saving order you need to do delivery and then save it then only delivery number will be generated
In cash sale the billing date will be todays date only where as in normal sale billing date can be after 1 week also , depends on the availability check
In normal sales cycle , you get invoice in billing F2, where as in Cash sale when you create a cash sale order the output you get is the invoice for the customer.
In cash sale there wont be any credit , where as in normal sales order there will be credit for customers .
Example :
cash sale - A customer purchasing goods in a retail outlet and then and there he is paying cash (no credit) to the retailer.
Normal sale - Customer purchasing goods but paying in installments , that means he is a regualar customer and he is getting credit.
Why cash sale is order related billing ?
Because , once you save the cash sale order automatically the delivery number is also created. now when you go to VL02n and enter the picking quantity it has to be fully referenced , of how much you have given in the cash sale order . But if you try to do partial delivery . you cant do again , you need to change the quantity what you have given in the delivery and enter in VA02 and enter the same quantity. then only the order will be closed
check the billing relevance for the item category BVN ( it is order related billing)
normal sales order is delivery realted billing ?
Because the item category for TAN is relavent for delivery and Billing relevence is different from BVN
you can do paritial deliveries in normal sales cycle till complete order quantity is referenced
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Regards
Srinath

Sales Office copying from Sales order to Invoice ( order related billing)

Hi
In sales invoice (vf01) is there any field for Sales Office.
In order related billing . how we can copy sales office from sales order to Invoice.
Regards\Adnan

Hi Adnan,
In Invoice you can find Salees office filed In the Item data >in the Item Detail tab>under Sales Order Data here you can get the sales office which you enter in the sales order.
I hope it will help you,
Regards,
Murali.

Partial quantity to be billed in order related billing ?

Dear all,
We have a situation where we need to bill only partial quantity for a order related billing.
Current strategy is to create a release order kind of document and then bill that. We want to avoid this. Is there any possibility to directly copy the quantity to billing document and change it in the billing document?
Regards,
Balaje Raam

Hi abdulshaik,
Yes it is possible to create 2 invoices for the 2 line items in order.
--First do the customization as per the Mr. Lakshmipathi said
--Go to VTFA copy controls
--Select your Billing Document & Order Document
--Click on item level in Data VBRK/VBRP --assign routine of 006 limited single invoice & save it
--Go to T.Code VF01 & enter the order no
--You will find two line items. select the both line items & click on split analysis
--Now you will find two invoice no with the same order.
Let me know if your problem is solved
Regards
Pradeep

Order related billing for manufacturing

Can anybody explain to me the effects of order-related billing in manufacturing? What if deliveries is not the same as sales order. Or should i just make another order type for this?
Thanks in advance!

Dear Joker,
-->Why you want to go for sales order related billing with out delivery reference !!
-->Are you not creating any delivery after sales order !!
-->Delivery is entirely different from sales order.
-->As per the satnsard service related activities will be billed with reference to the sales order because here there will not be any physical movement of goods.
-->When ever there is physical movements of the goods you need to create delivery.
-->When ever there is delivery you better to create billing document with reference to the delivery.
I hope this will help you,
Regards,
Murali.

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