Separate GL for posting Unplanned depreciation

Dear Friends,
In ao90 I want to map two GL account for posting unplanned Depreciation in Expense account for unplanned depreciation one for trans.type 640 and one for 650 separately.
Could it be possible ? and How ?
d b darji Sr AO ERP BSNL

Not possible. You link asset classes to account determination and assign GL accounts to Account Determination. The transaction type does not play a role in determining GL accounts.

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Incorrect Planned Depreciation after posting unplanned depreciation

Hello Everyone,
We have encountered a case whereas an asset acquired in April 2008 with 5 years useful life was planned to be fully depreciated in period 2 of 2009. Below are the details and postings done:
1 - NBV -> 1,056,143.00
2 - Posted Write-up -> 18,054.00
3 - Posted Unplanned depreciation -> 1,038,992.23- (the system actually issued that only the amount of 835,445 can be posted as unplanned dep. In order to bypass this, user changed the dep key to MANU then changing it back after the unplanned posting)
4 - Posted Ordinary Dep for Period 1 of 2009 -> 19,892
5 - Planned Ordinary Dep for Period 2 of 2009 -> 15,312.77-
Once the amount of 15,312.77 is posted, the asset will have Zero NBV.
*My question is: Why did the system posted the 15,312.77 in period 2 only and not spread the amount until 2013 since the asset's useful life is for 5 years (until 2013).
We have tried recalculation of values and the planned depreciation remains the same for period 2.
Hope someone can help.
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Cholo

Hello Vinod,
Period control is 004 which is configured in AFAMP having 01 - Pro rata at period start date for Acquisition, Acquisition in the following year, Retirement and trasfer. Does it have anything to do with the start of depreciation?
Also, when we adjust the ord dep start date to < April 26, the original planned depreciation is not affected for the current FY but only the next FY and moving forward.
For example:
Asset worth 12,000 to be depreciated in 10 years
1 - Alrready in period 3 and 200 has been posted
2 - Posted unplanned dep of 800
3 - Total planned dep for this year did not change (1,200)
4 - System calculated for current year depreciation 1200 (planned) + 800 (unplanned) = 2000
5 - And for the next years 12,000 - 2,000 = 10,000 / 9 years
Should it not be that that 12,000 - 1,000 (200 planned + 800 unplanned) = 11,000 / 9 years and 9 months?
It seems that the unplanned depreciation affected the depreciation computation of the asset only in the next FY.

Posting Unplanned Depreciation when asset net book value is zero

We recently transferred some assets from one company code to another. However, when they transferred, the depreciation all reversed out YTD.
We are now trying to post the YTD depreciation back in under the original company code, but when we try posting unplanned depreciation, the following error message appears -
"In area 01, you can only post manual dep. up to the amount 0.00"
I believe this is because the asset does not have any net book value now.
Any suggestions on how to resolve this?
Many thanks,

Hi Susan,
do you have the option to reverse the transfer postings? If so, you could specify another period control for transfer postings (such as fiscal year start, etc.) in your depreciation key, with which you can influence how much depreciation is left back respectively transferred.
It is correct that you can´t post an unplanned depreciation on the sending asset now, because the net book value would go below zero. As unplanned depreciation does not influence the ordinary depreciation in the year of posting, this value below zero can not be adjusted with a reduction of planned ordinary depreciation.
I am wondering which effect you´d like to have on the sending asset. Did you post a complete retirement? If so, there should be no APC left which you can depreciate on the sending asset. And as the net book value is zero already, which effect do you want to get? You have to keep in mind that the non-depreciated APC will be continued to depreciate (normally) on the receiving asset. But maybe I misunderstood the problem here ...
Regards,
Markus

Error posting unplanned depreciation

Hi Friends,
Pls help out with this...
I am trying to post unplanned depreciation for prior acquisition using trsaction type 640 for an asset of class XXXX , but system give error ' Posting with transaction type 640 not possible ( No acquisition posted) '. I tried to post the same using 645 and 650 too but did not succeed. Ideally it should happen using T type 640.
Prior to this i posted unplanned dep for another asset of same asset class with type 640.Also i was able to post unplanned dep for other assets of different class except for this asset.Note there are values in this particular asset and acquisition is of earlier Fiscal Year.
Not able to locate the problem area, Pls help out. POinst will be awarded.
Thanks in advance
Sunil

Hi
Change the Dep Key - MANU and post the dep manually thru ABMA.

Error when posting unplanned depreciation

Hello,
When posting an unplanned depreciation we are facing an error "In area 01 you can post manual dep upto the amount 0.00".
I checked the depreciation area and in it when for unplanned depreciation changed the setting to postive values but the error persists. I also tried all values and still the error persists. I also checked the transaction type 640 and there also if I made changes to allow postive values the error still persists.
I also want to mention that is not happening if I used another asset belonging to another asset class.
Please let me know if there is something else I am missing out.

Hi Susan,
do you have the option to reverse the transfer postings? If so, you could specify another period control for transfer postings (such as fiscal year start, etc.) in your depreciation key, with which you can influence how much depreciation is left back respectively transferred.
It is correct that you can´t post an unplanned depreciation on the sending asset now, because the net book value would go below zero. As unplanned depreciation does not influence the ordinary depreciation in the year of posting, this value below zero can not be adjusted with a reduction of planned ordinary depreciation.
I am wondering which effect you´d like to have on the sending asset. Did you post a complete retirement? If so, there should be no APC left which you can depreciate on the sending asset. And as the net book value is zero already, which effect do you want to get? You have to keep in mind that the non-depreciated APC will be continued to depreciate (normally) on the receiving asset. But maybe I misunderstood the problem here ...
Regards,
Markus

Reverse a posted unplanned depreciation

Hello,
I have created a unplanned depreciation action of an asset by using ABBA and posted the unplanned depreciation by AFAB.
Later, I found that this asset should not post any depreciation. Can I ask are there any ways to correct this mistake action?
Many thanks
Sunny

Hello,
I have the following case:
There is Unplanned depreciation posted in the previus years and the users wants to make Write-up.
After Write-up (transaction 730) with the proper amount on 31.12.2010 the system recalculate Ordinary depreciation in December.
This recalculation is posted via AFAB in 12.2010 but the users complain and do not want to recalcuate Ord. depreciation.
The question is:
Is there a way to post Write-up (730) without to recalculate Ordinary depreciation.
I have tried to make some changes in the depreciation key (the base value) but I can not succeed.
Also I have tried to to use ABAA with Z* transaction type to debit Unplanned depreciatino but the result is the same.
Thank you in advance,
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Posting Unplanned Depreciation (ABAA)

Hi,
Need your help.
Am doing a posting for Unplanned Dep. using tcode ABAA for the amount of 205,877.40 for April 2007, but i hit an error msg AA 649 "In area 01, you can only post manual dep. up to the amount 196,410.75.
I've checked the asset values in the asset explorer (AW01n) for 2007: see below:
APC           = 617,632.00
Acq. value   = 617,632.00
Ord. dep     = -123,526.40
NBV           = 494,105.60
In the Transactions:
01.04.2007 = 245,513.44
01.04.2007 = 372,118.56
TOTAL          617,632.00
You think, i encounter the above error because "in the transactions" i already reached the APC value?
Please advise.
Eve

hi,
You are trying to post more value than the available balance that can be depreciated. Hence the system is giving error.
You can post upto a maximum of 196,410.75 with which the value of teh asset becomes zero.
Reward if useful.
sarma

How to reverse posting made into unplanned depreciation

Dear Colleagues,
Kindly give me hints on how to reverse posting made into unplanned depreciation of a particular Asset.
I posted unplanned depreciation on an Asset : Generator for instance but i want to reverse such posting. Though we I posted, it doesnt generate a posting document but came out with a number 5 for insatnce.
Thanks for your quick response

Hello,
The posting of manual and unplanned depreciation into FI-AA is posting a memo, which is posted into FI with the RAPOST2000 run. This document can only be reversed when not posted into FI (and can only be done in the same FY / period).
If such posting is already taken into FI, please create copy a new transaction type changing it to debit and post the reverse with the new transaction type in the current FY.
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Suresh Jayanthi.

Full unplanned depreciation posted into period

Hello,
posting an unplanned depreciation SAP AA divides the full value between all remaining periods of the year.
Is there a way to change the behavior, so that the full value is posted to the month it is posted?
I have found hardly any customizing settings for unplanned depreciation and I found no documentation to how it is calculated.
Can anyone help me
Regards
Anton

Hi Anton,
You did not mentioned what transaction code you used in posting your unplanned depreciation before you got the scenario you described in your posting.
For you to post unplanned depreciation for a specific month without the system distributing the full value between all remaining periods of the year, use transaction code ABAA.
It is important that you complete the following fields correctly.
1. Company Code : Specify appropriate CC
2. Asset : Specify the asset number
3. Sub-number : Specify if you have one, otherwise, leave blank
4. Document Date : Specify doument date
5. Posting Date : Specify Posting date
6. Period : It is important that you specify the period you want to post the unplanned depreciation to. If you leave blank, the system would just use your posting date and may distribute the amount over the remaining periods of the year.
7. Trans. Type : 640 (Unplanned depreciation on old assets data)
I hope the above helps.
Do not forget to award the points please.
Regards,
Jacob

Unplanned Depreciation not reducing Base Value

Hi all,
Assets created in SAP. At a point, these assets had stopped
depreciating in sub-ledger but seems as if depreciation continued to be
provided for directly in the GL manually (via a jnl).
User wishes to re-capture the revised APC and Accumulated Depreciation
values back into the asset sub-ledger so that SAP will automatically
depreciate the assets according to their remaining useful life.
User has used a Write-up transaction to load the APC value. After
write-up posted, depreciation ise being calculated as expected. To get
the Accumulated Depreciation value into SAP, the user has posted
Unplanned Depreciation (TTY Type 640). However, when this is posted,
depreciation is not being calculated evenly over remaining useful life
of asset. For Year 1, depreciation is being calculated from Write-Up
(APC) values ONLY, and the Unplanned Depr (representing Accumulated
Depr) has NOT been taken into account. Unplanned Depr is only taken
into account from Year 2. This is leading to dis-proportionate depr
values in comparison from Year 1 to subsequent years across the
remaining life of the asset.
Have been testing period controls, and depr key set up but no luck.
Any ideas or suggestions will be much appreciated.

Dear Dattatray,
The issue here is not with the fact that no depreciation values have posted. The issue is with the values that have been posted. Let me illustrate by way of example.
Asset start date for depr: Changed to 01.01.2008
Useful life of asset: 3 years, 4 months (40 months)
Write up of asset posted March 2008: EUR 135,492.18
Unplanned Depr of asset posted March 2008 EUR 93,605.12
Therefore, Net Book Value = EUR 41,887.06
Depreciation run happened in March after ABAA entry.
Expectation:-
Based on this NBV of EUR 41,887.06 you would expect depr to post at EUR1,047.18 per month (41,887.06 / 40 months) over the remaining life of asset. In this case, 3 months would be caught up in March as asset depr start date is 01.01.2008, and balance of EUR1,047.18 to be posted per month until asset written off 3 years and 4 months down the line.
What is happening in SAP:-
Depreciation for FY 2008 is only being calculated on the write-up value of EUR 135,492.18 and not the NBV. Therefore, for FY2008, depreciation is being calculated at EUR 3,387.30 per month (EUR135,492.18 / 40 months).
If i look at FY2009, the Unplanned Depr value of EUR 93,605.12 is now taken into account. Therefore, NBV at start of FY2009 is Write up 135,492.18 less Unplanned Depr 93,605.12 less Depr in 2008 (12 months) 40,647.60 = NBV EUR1,239.46. This new NBV over remaining life which is now 28 months is EUR 44,27 per month, or EUR 531.19 for the year.
So in FY2008, Depr posted = EUR 40,647.60 (3,387.30 per month)
In FY2009, depr posted = EUR 531.19 (44.27 per month)
In FY 2010, depr posted = EUR 531.19 (44.27 per month)
In FY 2011, asset gets written off.
You can see that year 1 is highly inflated and Years 2 thru remaining life is smoothed. This is not correct. We would expect the depr to be smoothed every month from the start i.e. EUR 1,047.18 per month or 12,566.11 in FY2008, 12,566.11 in FY2009, 12,566.11 in FY 2010 and then written off in 2011.
I hope this helps to explain the current problem.
Thanks.

Unplanned depreciation negative in Derived depr area ECC 6.0

We are trying to post unplanned depreciation in Book1 using ttype 641 and the system is not allowing us to post, as we have a derived depreciation area for
Book vs Macrs..
The message is AA639
Unplanned depreciation is negative in area 25.....Where area 25 is the derived depreciation area.
Any suggestions to overcome this as we only want to post to book1.
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Reverse Unplanned Depreciation

Hello Gurus,
The business is trying to close the Fixed Assets Year and before doing that they want to reverse unplanned depreciation for an asset. Can someone kindly advice how this could be performed? Is there a standard tcode to do so?
Thanks in advance!
YJ

Hi:
You can do that using ABS0. This is the only way to reverse unplanned depreciation. Create a new entry with ABSO and a transaction type which is the opposite of the one you are using . Enter then the same values in depreciation areas you put for your unplanned depreciation. e.g If you have posted your unplanned depreciation with transaction type '600' (debit transaction), create a transaction type 'Z00' 'Reverse unplanned depreciation' with 'credit transaction' and use it in ABSO transaction. Hope it will help you.
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Unplanned Depreciation Error - AA649

Hi Expert,
I have an asset purchase in year 2007 with useful life of 6 years. In asset explorer, the details show as below :-
Fiscal year : 2009
APC posted value = 12,273.56
Ordinary Dep (fiscal start) = 3068.39-
Ordinary Dep (Change) = 460.26- (posted for 3 periods)
Orfinary Dep(posted value) = 3,528.65-
NBV = 8,744,91.
Since the NBV is 8,744.91,when i enter unplanned depreciation (ABAA) using transaction type "641" with Amount posted 8,000, why system now allow and appeared Message no. AA649 with message as below :-
" In area 01, you can only post manual dep. up to the amount 7,364.14"
Please help how to post unplanned depreciation with amount lesser then NBV ? Why system not allow to accept the amount ?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Oscar

Hi
You must have used dep key with scrap value percentage maintained.
Check the cutoff value key for the dep key, due to the percenatge maintained for the dep key it is not allowing you to do unplanned dep more than that percenatge. It will keep asset value always up to that percentage .
If you wish to post this transaction then change your dep key and post your transaction.
Cheers
Mukta

Unplanned depreciation error

Hi
When i try to post unplanned depreciation for the transaction type 640 system is showing the following error
Posting with trans.type 640 not possible (No acquisition posted)
Message no. AA324
Diagnosis
Transaction type 640 belongs to a transaction type group, which can only be used to post to assets to which posting has already been performed. However, no postings have been made to this asset.
Procedure
Use a transaction type from a transaction type group, which can be used for the first acquisition to an asset.
Can any one help me in this regard.
govind
Edited by: govindaraj s on May 23, 2009 12:59 PM

Check this link where the same topic was discussed
[How to reverse unplanned depreciation posted in SAP (ABAA), Is it thru ABSO ?|http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-sem/how-to-reverse-unplanned-depreciation-posted-in-sap-abaa-is-it-thru-abso-2726743]
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G. Lakshmipathi

Difference between Unplanned depreciation and Manual depreciation

Hi Experts,
Any body tell me what is difference between Unplanned deprecation and Manual deprecation in Asset accounting.
Reg,
Raj.

Hi,
First of all an asset will have dep keys.
These dep keys have the control for calculating the automatic depreciation.
If you maintain a a normal dep key, this will automatically forecast the depreciation for the open FYs.
Apart from the above planned ordinary depreciation, you can post unplanned depreciation also, if any unforeseen conditions happen.
For ex: on 31.08.2009 your asset's NBV is 5000 (after aug dep run also), but if you feel that (client) this asset's value is further down according to the current market value, you can pass a unplannned depreciation (ABAA) for an amount of 100. So with this transaction your asset's NBV as on 31.08.2009 will become 4900.
by passing ABAA, system will not post any accounting doc, since it creates and AA internal document. So you need to do a repeat dep run for the aug period, then the system will check the asset for any unposted planned/unplanned depreciations to it. So at this point system will pass that amount to accounting
But where as manual depreciation is concerned...
you cannot post any unplanned dep to an asset, which is having dep key, that does not forecast planned dep values for the open FY.
dep key MANU is the standard dep key, which will not forecast any planned dep to it.
Check the above said standard dep key for credentials of it.
Hope you understand...
Thanks,
Srinu

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