FA: What is Unplanned Depreciation ?

What is Unplanned Depreciation ? When and where is it used ?
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Hi,
Unplanned depreciation_
Unplanned depreciation is a feature used primarily to comply with special depreciation
accounting rules in Germany and the Netherlands. However, you also can use this
feature to handle unusual accounting situations in which you need to adjust the net
book value and accumulated depreciation amounts for an asset without affecting its
cost.
You can enter unplanned depreciation amounts by asset and book for any current
period during the useful life of an asset. You can enter unplanned depreciation for an
asset in both the corporate and/or tax books. When you enter unplanned depreciation,
Oracle Assets immediately updates the year-to-date and life-to-date depreciation, and
the net book value of the asset. You can change the depreciation method after entering
unplanned depreciation.
The unplanned depreciation expense you enter must not exceed the current net book
value (cost - salvage value - accumulated depreciation) of the asset. If necessary, you
can enter multiple unplanned depreciation amounts, both positive and negative, in a
single period, provided that the net amount does not exceed the current net book value
of the asset. Thus, it is possible to enter unplanned amounts that back out depreciation
taken in prior periods, including previously entered unplanned depreciation amounts.
When you enter unplanned depreciation expense, you can choose in which period to
begin amortization of the asset's remaining net book value. You can begin amortization
in the current or a subsequent period, or you can choose not to amortize the remaining
net book value. Note that if you do not amortize the unplanned depreciation or make
an amortized adjustment in a subsequent period, the asset will be fully reserved before
the end of the useful life. If you choose to amortize in a subsequent period, simply enter
an unplanned depreciation amount of zero, and check the Amortize from Current
Period check box. Oracle Assets will begin to amortize the remaining net book value as
of that period.
Oracle Assets uses the unplanned depreciation amount, in addition to regular
depreciation, to calculate depreciation for the period in which you entered the
unplanned depreciation. When you create journal entries for the general ledger, Oracle
Assets posts the expense due to unplanned depreciation to the account you selected
when you entered the unplanned depreciation for the asset.
I think i have better explain it to you, for furthur query plz reply back.
Regards,
Nadeem Aslam

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Unplanned Depreciation not reducing Base Value

Hi all,
Assets created in SAP. At a point, these assets had stopped
depreciating in sub-ledger but seems as if depreciation continued to be
provided for directly in the GL manually (via a jnl).
User wishes to re-capture the revised APC and Accumulated Depreciation
values back into the asset sub-ledger so that SAP will automatically
depreciate the assets according to their remaining useful life.
User has used a Write-up transaction to load the APC value. After
write-up posted, depreciation ise being calculated as expected. To get
the Accumulated Depreciation value into SAP, the user has posted
Unplanned Depreciation (TTY Type 640). However, when this is posted,
depreciation is not being calculated evenly over remaining useful life
of asset. For Year 1, depreciation is being calculated from Write-Up
(APC) values ONLY, and the Unplanned Depr (representing Accumulated
Depr) has NOT been taken into account. Unplanned Depr is only taken
into account from Year 2. This is leading to dis-proportionate depr
values in comparison from Year 1 to subsequent years across the
remaining life of the asset.
Have been testing period controls, and depr key set up but no luck.
Any ideas or suggestions will be much appreciated.

Dear Dattatray,
The issue here is not with the fact that no depreciation values have posted. The issue is with the values that have been posted. Let me illustrate by way of example.
Asset start date for depr: Changed to 01.01.2008
Useful life of asset: 3 years, 4 months (40 months)
Write up of asset posted March 2008: EUR 135,492.18
Unplanned Depr of asset posted March 2008 EUR 93,605.12
Therefore, Net Book Value = EUR 41,887.06
Depreciation run happened in March after ABAA entry.
Expectation:-
Based on this NBV of EUR 41,887.06 you would expect depr to post at EUR1,047.18 per month (41,887.06 / 40 months) over the remaining life of asset. In this case, 3 months would be caught up in March as asset depr start date is 01.01.2008, and balance of EUR1,047.18 to be posted per month until asset written off 3 years and 4 months down the line.
What is happening in SAP:-
Depreciation for FY 2008 is only being calculated on the write-up value of EUR 135,492.18 and not the NBV. Therefore, for FY2008, depreciation is being calculated at EUR 3,387.30 per month (EUR135,492.18 / 40 months).
If i look at FY2009, the Unplanned Depr value of EUR 93,605.12 is now taken into account. Therefore, NBV at start of FY2009 is Write up 135,492.18 less Unplanned Depr 93,605.12 less Depr in 2008 (12 months) 40,647.60 = NBV EUR1,239.46. This new NBV over remaining life which is now 28 months is EUR 44,27 per month, or EUR 531.19 for the year.
So in FY2008, Depr posted = EUR 40,647.60 (3,387.30 per month)
In FY2009, depr posted = EUR 531.19 (44.27 per month)
In FY 2010, depr posted = EUR 531.19 (44.27 per month)
In FY 2011, asset gets written off.
You can see that year 1 is highly inflated and Years 2 thru remaining life is smoothed. This is not correct. We would expect the depr to be smoothed every month from the start i.e. EUR 1,047.18 per month or 12,566.11 in FY2008, 12,566.11 in FY2009, 12,566.11 in FY 2010 and then written off in 2011.
I hope this helps to explain the current problem.
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How to accout unplanned depreciation for group assets

Friends,
Unplanned depreciation is accounted for group assets few years ago.This is for special depreciation areas.
Now i would like to reverse this amount as write up unpalnned depreciation, but system is throwing eror message that: This function is not possible for group assets.
OR
The issue what we are facing is special dep areas has one cent as -ve acquisition due to which we are unable to deactivate the asset. This one cent was accounted as unplanned dep few years ago. How do we make the APC as zero when it has -ve APC in special dep areas.
pl, suggest how to go about this.
Thank
NNS

Hi,
This is not possible in the standard and this is not a from SAP intended and provided solution. Therefore I ask you to be really careful and test it bevore on a test system. (and perhaps to discuss this with your SAP consultant)
The workaround to remove the group asset from table ANLB-ANLGR from the asset could be done by creating your own program.
Regards Bernhard

Full unplanned depreciation posted into period

Hello,
posting an unplanned depreciation SAP AA divides the full value between all remaining periods of the year.
Is there a way to change the behavior, so that the full value is posted to the month it is posted?
I have found hardly any customizing settings for unplanned depreciation and I found no documentation to how it is calculated.
Can anyone help me
Regards
Anton

Hi Anton,
You did not mentioned what transaction code you used in posting your unplanned depreciation before you got the scenario you described in your posting.
For you to post unplanned depreciation for a specific month without the system distributing the full value between all remaining periods of the year, use transaction code ABAA.
It is important that you complete the following fields correctly.
1. Company Code : Specify appropriate CC
2. Asset : Specify the asset number
3. Sub-number : Specify if you have one, otherwise, leave blank
4. Document Date : Specify doument date
5. Posting Date : Specify Posting date
6. Period : It is important that you specify the period you want to post the unplanned depreciation to. If you leave blank, the system would just use your posting date and may distribute the amount over the remaining periods of the year.
7. Trans. Type : 640 (Unplanned depreciation on old assets data)
I hope the above helps.
Do not forget to award the points please.
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Jacob

Difference between Unplanned depreciation and Manual depreciation

Hi Experts,
Any body tell me what is difference between Unplanned deprecation and Manual deprecation in Asset accounting.
Reg,
Raj.

Hi,
First of all an asset will have dep keys.
These dep keys have the control for calculating the automatic depreciation.
If you maintain a a normal dep key, this will automatically forecast the depreciation for the open FYs.
Apart from the above planned ordinary depreciation, you can post unplanned depreciation also, if any unforeseen conditions happen.
For ex: on 31.08.2009 your asset's NBV is 5000 (after aug dep run also), but if you feel that (client) this asset's value is further down according to the current market value, you can pass a unplannned depreciation (ABAA) for an amount of 100. So with this transaction your asset's NBV as on 31.08.2009 will become 4900.
by passing ABAA, system will not post any accounting doc, since it creates and AA internal document. So you need to do a repeat dep run for the aug period, then the system will check the asset for any unposted planned/unplanned depreciations to it. So at this point system will pass that amount to accounting
But where as manual depreciation is concerned...
you cannot post any unplanned dep to an asset, which is having dep key, that does not forecast planned dep values for the open FY.
dep key MANU is the standard dep key, which will not forecast any planned dep to it.
Check the above said standard dep key for credentials of it.
Hope you understand...
Thanks,
Srinu

Incorrect Planned Depreciation after posting unplanned depreciation

Hello Everyone,
We have encountered a case whereas an asset acquired in April 2008 with 5 years useful life was planned to be fully depreciated in period 2 of 2009. Below are the details and postings done:
1 - NBV -> 1,056,143.00
2 - Posted Write-up -> 18,054.00
3 - Posted Unplanned depreciation -> 1,038,992.23- (the system actually issued that only the amount of 835,445 can be posted as unplanned dep. In order to bypass this, user changed the dep key to MANU then changing it back after the unplanned posting)
4 - Posted Ordinary Dep for Period 1 of 2009 -> 19,892
5 - Planned Ordinary Dep for Period 2 of 2009 -> 15,312.77-
Once the amount of 15,312.77 is posted, the asset will have Zero NBV.
*My question is: Why did the system posted the 15,312.77 in period 2 only and not spread the amount until 2013 since the asset's useful life is for 5 years (until 2013).
We have tried recalculation of values and the planned depreciation remains the same for period 2.
Hope someone can help.
Thank you in advance.
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Cholo

Hello Vinod,
Period control is 004 which is configured in AFAMP having 01 - Pro rata at period start date for Acquisition, Acquisition in the following year, Retirement and trasfer. Does it have anything to do with the start of depreciation?
Also, when we adjust the ord dep start date to < April 26, the original planned depreciation is not affected for the current FY but only the next FY and moving forward.
For example:
Asset worth 12,000 to be depreciated in 10 years
1 - Alrready in period 3 and 200 has been posted
2 - Posted unplanned dep of 800
3 - Total planned dep for this year did not change (1,200)
4 - System calculated for current year depreciation 1200 (planned) + 800 (unplanned) = 2000
5 - And for the next years 12,000 - 2,000 = 10,000 / 9 years
Should it not be that that 12,000 - 1,000 (200 planned + 800 unplanned) = 11,000 / 9 years and 9 months?
It seems that the unplanned depreciation affected the depreciation computation of the asset only in the next FY.

Asset Unplanned Depreciation posting for period 12 where ord dep is posted

Dear Experts,
I have a requirement where i want to post Unplanned/Manual depreciation for asset for period 12 where i have already posted ordinary depreciation and now when i am trying to change the post key i am getting a message "Enter a depreciation key with 'depreciation by days'
Is their any possibility where i can post some depreciation amount manually or through unplanned depreciation for period 12 without disturbing Planned depreciation amount.
Regards,
Rahul

No,
a depreciation key with 'depreciation by days' you can only change in a depreciation key with 'depreciation by days'
This is set-up in the depreciation key
This is the help:
Depreciation calculation to exact day
Specifies that the system calculates depreciation to the day.
Use
Any period control methods entered in the depreciation key are ignored for the entire useful life of the asset. This applies to all transactions (acquisitions, retirements, and transfers). The system always uses the asset value date as the depreciation start date.
The "depreciation to the day" function becomes active for an asset as soon as the asset has a corresponding depreciation key and the asset is capitalized (posted to). Once this takes place, it is no longer possible to switch off this function for the asset, even if you change the depreciation key. On the other hand, it is not possible to activate this function for an asset after it has already been capitalized using a different depreciation key.

Unplanned depreciation in FI Fixed Assets does not post to FI-GL

We used transaction ABAA (unplanned depreciation) movement typ 640 to post a depreciation amount - The document has been posted in the AA module ( it is now showing against the Asset in the transaction Asset Explorer transactions AW01N and AB03) however we do not manage to get it posted to FI and consequently have a reconciliation difference between the value in the AA module and the FI-GL.
Can anybody please give advise how we can correct this?
We tried following so far:
(1) post the unplanned depreciation document using transaction AFAB - depreciation posting run.
No documents created.
The message log displays "You want to run the next planned run of the depreciation posting run in period 014. However, the last planned posting run was already performed for period 014."
Than tried to execute the transaction with selection 'repeat' , 'restart', 'unplanned depreciation run': no documents posted either ......
(2) reverse the unplanned depreciation document using transaction AB08
This failed; the system reports following
"No FI document was generated for the asset transaction" and subsequently after clicking the 'post'button' an error"No unique header information transferred into Accounting
Message no. RW001
Diagnosis: The interface into Accounting requires:
Header data
Item data
Currency data
The header data is missing, or several items were transferred.
System Response
Processing of the data in the Accounting interface is not possible.
Procedure
This is a system error of the application which was called up
So..............No idea how to get rid of this document.
Can anybody help?
Kind Regards,
Arjan

Hi Suresh,
Thanks for you feedback.
I had already tried your suggestion; it was the actions which I mentioned under the point (1) in my message.
The system did not generate any FI document, this is exactly the unexpected problem that I am trying to solve.
Any further suggestions?
Kind Regards,
Arjan

Unplanned depreciation ABAA

Hello Experts,
I use ABAA to devaluate an asset(unplanned dep) with value date at 01.01.2010, but the depreciation run still not run for 01.2010.
In AW01N, the column "Ord Dep" for all periods in 2010 still show the origianl depreciation value, but there is another column "Unplanned Dep" added in 01.2010.
Do I need to finish the depreciation run for 01.2010, the column "Ord Dep" for all periods in 2010 would reflect the new value which includes unplanned depreciation?
Is it also the same situation for write-up ABZU?
Thanks.
Claude

Hi Srinu,
Thanks for your prompt.
I want to post the write up value to 12.2009.
Therefore, in ABZU I try to set the Asset Value Date to 31.12.2009, with posting date and doc date as today, but an error say "Enter asset value date in the same year as posting date 28.01.2010".
Then I try to change the posting date to 31.12.2009, an error say"You cannot post write-ups" Message no. AA400.
I am using transaction type 700.
The asset is Capitalized on 25.08.2009
Thanks.
Claude

Unplanned depreciation

Hi All,
I have posted the unplanned depreciation thru ABAA and in AW01n, i can see the unplanned depreciation with the posted amount.
Now i want to reverse this posting. I am trying it thru AB08 for that asset but it says No FI document is posted and hence no reversal is possible.
But I want to remove that amount from the UNplanned depreciation of this Asset.
I also tried to write-up the asset with Trans Type 730 thru T.Code- ABZU but it says this Trans Type for Write-up is not allowed.
OR
Shall I post the unplanned and then reverse the posted FI document to resolve. Help me out.
how to solve this issue and finally i am looking at the option of the asset write up this amount but I think this will be writtenup from the Ordinay Deprn but not from Unplanned.
Please help me on this, points are assured.
Thanks and regards,
S Sq
Edited by: s sq on Mar 29, 2008 7:12 AM
Edited by: s sq on Mar 31, 2008 9:42 AM

Dominic
Your this suggestion is really helpful. My client requirement is also that it should look into other ordinary depreciation and since my multilevel has APC-unplanned.
How can this be resolved.
Eg
APC = 10000
UL = 5 yrs
Dep per yr = 10000/5= 2000
Second yr Unplanned dep posted 5000
so total dep is 7000 now system should do 3000/4
Pl help
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Unplanned depreciation Posting

Dear All,
My client is following Jan -Dec.
1.They have captilized asset on 31.12.2006 but for 2007 they have not calculated any depreciation on that asset ( wrongly they have specified Dep start date 01.12.2007) they want to charge the depreciation for 2007 for that asset from Jan to december. Does by changing the Dep start date (01.01.2007)the system will calculate the dep fom jan to dec and post when AFAB is executed for 12 period( total amount of dep for 12 periods is posted ). Or we need to run dep for each period seperately.
2. Due to audit adjustment they want to charge the unplanned depreciation for one Asset which is captilized in previous year,where the Depreciation key is automatic .We tried to use ABAA transaction type 640 and system is prompting message " Dep are 01 allowed Unplaned dep posting is Zero"
-change the Depreciation key?
while charging the Unplanned dep do we need to change the DEp key to "MANU".
Please assit.
Thanks
Stephen

Hi
Change the Dep Key - MANU and post the dep manually thru ABMA.

Posting Unplanned Depreciation when asset net book value is zero

We recently transferred some assets from one company code to another. However, when they transferred, the depreciation all reversed out YTD.
We are now trying to post the YTD depreciation back in under the original company code, but when we try posting unplanned depreciation, the following error message appears -
"In area 01, you can only post manual dep. up to the amount 0.00"
I believe this is because the asset does not have any net book value now.
Any suggestions on how to resolve this?
Many thanks,

Hi Susan,
do you have the option to reverse the transfer postings? If so, you could specify another period control for transfer postings (such as fiscal year start, etc.) in your depreciation key, with which you can influence how much depreciation is left back respectively transferred.
It is correct that you can´t post an unplanned depreciation on the sending asset now, because the net book value would go below zero. As unplanned depreciation does not influence the ordinary depreciation in the year of posting, this value below zero can not be adjusted with a reduction of planned ordinary depreciation.
I am wondering which effect you´d like to have on the sending asset. Did you post a complete retirement? If so, there should be no APC left which you can depreciate on the sending asset. And as the net book value is zero already, which effect do you want to get? You have to keep in mind that the non-depreciated APC will be continued to depreciate (normally) on the receiving asset. But maybe I misunderstood the problem here ...
Regards,
Markus

Re: Write - Up Unplanned Depreciation

Hi All,
I tried to write up the Unplanned Depreciation using Transaction Code.ABZU
Am getting an Error : You Cannot Post Write- ups
You cannot post write-ups
Message no. AA402
Diagnosis
None of the areas to be posted in accordance with the transaction type entered manages one of the depreciation types entered or cumulative values.
Procedure
Check the transaction type.
But i have checked with the Transaction Code : OAXE
I have maintained the Depreciation area 01 & 32 Group in the transaction Type defined by me ZC0 by copying the transaction type 731.
Still am getting the same issue. Can any one give me the right solution.
Regards,
vviek

Hi
Write-ups are used for correction of depreciation values calculated in
the past (closed fiscal years). It is not possible to post write-ups to
assets that have been acquired within the current year. If you attempt
this, you will receive error AA402. The R/3 Library documentation describes    the procedure for write-ups as well as the two situations where write-ups can be used.
To correct the dep. amount, you may use unplanned depreciation posting
(txn ABAA) .
Regards
Javier

Unplanned depreciation negative in Derived depr area ECC 6.0

We are trying to post unplanned depreciation in Book1 using ttype 641 and the system is not allowing us to post, as we have a derived depreciation area for
Book vs Macrs..
The message is AA639
Unplanned depreciation is negative in area 25.....Where area 25 is the derived depreciation area.
Any suggestions to overcome this as we only want to post to book1.
Thank you

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Reverse Unplanned Depreciation

Hello Gurus,
The business is trying to close the Fixed Assets Year and before doing that they want to reverse unplanned depreciation for an asset. Can someone kindly advice how this could be performed? Is there a standard tcode to do so?
Thanks in advance!
YJ

Hi:
You can do that using ABS0. This is the only way to reverse unplanned depreciation. Create a new entry with ABSO and a transaction type which is the opposite of the one you are using . Enter then the same values in depreciation areas you put for your unplanned depreciation. e.g If you have posted your unplanned depreciation with transaction type '600' (debit transaction), create a transaction type 'Z00' 'Reverse unplanned depreciation' with 'credit transaction' and use it in ABSO transaction. Hope it will help you.
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