Interim Disk Solution for Enthusiast First Build

First, let me say that I have benefited greatly from the discussions on these boards.
I am an amateur filmmaker planning to build (have built for me) a custom PC along the lines of the great information I've gathered in this forum.
I plan to use PP CS 5.5 to edit AVCHD files from a GH2 camera for output to blu-ray disk with lengths from 5 to 15 minutes, to start - hopefully longer pieces as I progress. This would be nights and weekends sort of work, and certainly no great volume.
Based on forum recommendations my planned configuration is: P8Z68 ASUS v pro/i72600 k/16 GB ram/ GTX560Ti/ HAF 932/Corsair 850w/BDR206
My dilemma is hard drives. I had originally intended to get three WD Black 1TB, which at the time were about $60 each, but are now about $240 at Newegg. I really don't want to spend $750 on drives.
So, my question is this: What is a minimal and economical hard drive configuration that I can use that will let me get started using PP CS5 and the mercury engine acceleration, so that I can add drives later, when I know more, need more, and hopefully drive prices have come down?
Can I get away with a with one boot/application drive and one media drive, etc? What sizes and brands are good values now?
Thanks very much for your thoughts. I look forward to your responses!
Dennis

Here's a suggestion from New Egg. The drives are cheaper:
Here is your parts list from Newegg. You will toss another $100 or so in cables and fans, etc.
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS: $209.00
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131701)
Processor:Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I72600K: $320.00
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070)
RAM:G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11Q-16GBXL:$150.00
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231473)
NVidia GTX570: EVGA 012-P3-1571-KR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card: $340.00
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130613)
HARD DRIVES (5): HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.D HDS721010DLE630 (0F13180) 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive. $130 EACH OR $650.00
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145533)
CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 932: $140.00
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160)
POWER SUPPLY: Antec EarthWatts Series EA-750 Green 750W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Continuous Power Supply: $100.00
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371051)
BLURAY BURNER: LG Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 10X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal 12X Super Multi Blue with 3D Playback Blu-ray Disc Rewriter WH12LS38 LightScribe Support - OEM: $70.00
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136239)
TOTAL: $1,979.00
I trust this helps.
Goodluck
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1) is this the right move?
2) is it still worth it to put together rendering farm for AE renders only? or might as well concentrate funds on the machines/workstations?
Also along the PRACTICALITY LINE, would it be practical to maintain all the existing machines, and instead build a manned RENDERING MACHINE w/ PP and AE (basically desktop or Server if they are faster at rendering w/ the best specs for the purpose etc) where they can just throw the workload to some guy there for rendering? Atleast the editors can continue using the workstations while the rendering machine guy is at work? and even perhaps setup a gigabit lan network where the RENDERING MACHINES can dynamically pull the work load via the network , not needing to transfer the files to the rendering machine first ? etc
as you can see im not only looking for the best machine, but the best STRATEGY for my client.
Good suggestions would be much appreciated.
regards to all

in a nut shell no. if you do not have to "Share" then Avid is pointless Adobe is a far better answer.
Avid solutions still need a computer. The Mojo.Nitris are a joke and Avid no longer provides computers even the Symphany comes with your choice of Apple Mac Pro or HP 800. (Dual Xeon)
there are better "hardware" answers that what Avid sells for Adobe. Decklink, Aja to name a few.
if you have to share then you have no choice. this is the one area Abode does not lead.
renders have to do primarily with 2 things CPU power (Xeon will render faster than single i7)
and Drives. the faster your drive set up the faster the render. Memory does play a part and so does the video card depending on what codec and to what
it also depends on WHAT you are rendering and from what for the HDDs.
without knowing your work flow format and codec its impossible to suggest something.
in terms of rendering
Core i7
Dual Xeon (faster unless still doing DV/HDV thru firewire)
Sonnet raid array
Scott
ADK

Oracle Installation or Uninstallation Solutions For Windows 95/98/2000/ME/NT/XP

You must read carefully the following steps here. If you previously installed any Oracle's products on your machine, I strongly recommend you to clean up thoroughly before install the new products.
================================================================
Uninstallation
The easiest way to remove ALL traces of Oracle software, for an 8i installation, is:
(1) Using regedit, remove the key \\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\ORACLE.
(2) Remove all the Oracle services (usually called Ora-something) from \\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services.
(3) Go to the ORACLE_HOME directory (usually C:\Oracle\Ora81). Go to the BIN directory beneath this. Rename the file OCIW32.DLL to something like OCIW32.OLD.
(4) Reboot your box.
(5) Once you have logged on again, delete the directories C:\Program Files\Oracle and C:\Oracle.
(6) Right-click on My Computer, select Properties->Environment. Edit the environmental variable PATH to remove all refernces to files in the two directories you have just deleted.
(7) Remove the Oracle folders from your Start menu.
*** Obviously, using regedit on your machine always entails risks, and I won't be held responsible if you end up trashing your system. However, the above procedure is one I have used many times with complete success. You have been warned! ;) ***
As to logging on, the "standard" Oracle accounts are:
SYS/change_on_install (SYSDBA - database owner)
SYSTEM/manager (Owns various VIEWs and utility PACKAGEs)
and (optionally):
SCOTT/tiger (Training account containing some sample tables)
If you're using PO8i on the local machine, you shouldn't need to worry about setting up NET*8 (Oracle's networking protocols)
=================================================================
Windows 95 and 98
This will remove all Oracle products, Oracle services, and Oracle registry entries from your computer.
Complete the following steps to create a Clean Machine. Backup any relevant databases before proceeding!
On Windows 95 and Windows 98:
1. Ensure you shutdown your Oracle. Right click on the Oracle Icon in the toolbar and click on the shutdown option.
2. Un-install all your Oracle products if possible. Use universal installer to do that. Ignore this step if you dont have universal installer on your machine.
3. In regedit, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE.
4. Delete the ORACLE key.
5. Edit your AUTOEXEC.BAT file and remove your %ORACLE_HOME%\bin and JRE paths from the path setting.
6. From the Windows Explorer (or from the command prompt), delete the Oracle directory (Oracle Base).
7. Delete <system_drive>:\Program Files\Oracle (from the Windows NT Explorer or from the command prompt).
8. Delete Icons from <system_drive>: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Oracle - <HOME> and <system_drive>:\Windows\StartMenu\Programs\Oracle Installation Products. Where <HOME> is the previous HOME name.
9. Reboot your computer.
On Windows NT:
1. Ensure you are logged in as a user with Administrator privileges.
2. Stop all Oracle Services through Control Panel Services. Use universal installer to un-install your Oracle products. Ignore un-install if you dont have universal installer on your machine.
3. Using regedit (at the command prompt, type regedit), go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE and delete the ORACLE key.
4. Open HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services, and remove all keys under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services that begin with ORACLE.
5. Open HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\Application, and remove all keys under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\Application that begin with ORACLE.
6. Close regedit.
7. From the Control Panel, open System.
8. If JRE was installed by Oracle, remove the %ORACLE_HOME%\BIN path and the JRE path. For example, you may see a path similar to this one: C:\ORACLE\ORAxx\BIN;G: \Program Files\Oracle\jre\1.1.7\bin. Go to Start > Control Panel > System > Environment tab. Click on the system variable path and modify the path.
9. Delete Icons from <system_drive>:\Winnt\Profiles\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Oracle - <HOME> and <system_drive>:\Winnt\Profiles\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Oracle Installation Products. Where <HOME> is the previous HOME name.
10. Delete <system_drive>:\Program Files\Oracle (from the Windows NT Explorer or from the command prompt).
11. Reboot your computer.
12. Delete all ORACLE_BASE directories (You can find the Oracle homes listed in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE\ORACLE_HOMES).
================================================================
Doc ID:
Note:131299.1
Subject:
Oracle Installer 8.1.X Hangs on Machines with Pentium 4
Processors
Type:
ALERT
Status:
PUBLISHED
Content
Type:
TEXT/PLAIN
Creation
Date:
02-JAN-2001
Last
Revision Date:
18-APR-2001
This alert was modified 16-January-2001 by specifying specific
Oracle Universal
Installer Versions in the the Versions Affected section.
Oracle Universal Installer (OUI) for 8.1.x Hangs on Machines
with Pentium 4
Processors
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Versions Affected
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oracle 8.1.5
============
Oracle Universal Installer 1.6.0.9.0
Oracle 8.1.6
=============
Oracle Universal Installer 1.7.0.19.0
Oracle 8.1.7
==============
Oracle Universal Installer 1.7.1.9.0
Platforms Affected
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Any platform that uses the Intel Pentium 4 processor, with the
Sun JRE
and Symmantec JIT will encounter this problem. Windows NT,
Windows 2000
and NetWare platforms are confirmed to be affected.
Description
~~~~~~~~~~~
When installing Oracle Products with the Oracle Universal
Installer (8.1.x)
on machines that use the Sun JRE and Symmantec JIT, the
installer hangs.
Specifically for the Windows platform, the following version
of the Symmantec
JIT or earlier will encounter the failure:
Symantec Java! JustInTime Compiler Version 3.10.107 for JDK
1.2.
Details regarding this issue can be found at:
http://developer.intel.com/design/processor/future/manuals/knowni ssue.htm
How to determine if you have Symmantec Java for JDK 1.2:
1. Select the file "symcjit.dll" and right click on it.
2. Select Properties, then the Version tab.
3. Under Microsoft Windows*, the properties of the DLL are:
"Symantec Java! JustInTime Compiler Version 3.10.107 for
JDK 1.2 Copyright (C)
1996-99 Symantec Corporation Dynamic Link Library file".
DLLs older than this will also not work. "
Likelihood of Occurrence
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Any platform that uses the Intel Pentium 4 processor, with the
Sun JRE
and Symmantec JIT will encounter this problem. Windows NT,
Windows 2000 and NetWare platforms are confirmed to be
affected.
Possible Symptoms
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The failure typically is that the affected application simply
terminates.
Workaround
~~~~~~~~~~
Not only will OUI be affected by this bug, most of the
post-install
configuration tools will also be affected. Running these
tools with "-nojit"
specified will avoid the hang, but it is not simple to specify
"-nojit" for
some of the products.
The following workaround works for the Windows operating
system:
a. Copy only the install directory from the CD to the hard
disk ,say, e:\temp.
b. Open oraparam.ini and make the following modifications
(Assuming CD
drive is f:)
* Change the "SOURCE=" line to use the full path to the CD
instead of a
relative path. (i.e., SOURCE=f:\stage\products.jar)
* Change the "JRE_LOCATION" line to use the full path to the
CD instead of a
relative path. (i.e.,
JRE_LOCATION=f:\stage\Components\oracle\swd\jre\1.1.7\1\DataFiles
\Expanded)
* Change the "OUI_LOCATION" line to use the full path to the
CD instead of a
relative path. (i.e.,
OUI_LOCATION=f:\stage\Components\oracle\swd\oui\1.6.0.9.0\1\DataF
iles\Expanded
* Change the "JRE_MEMORY_OPTIONS" line to add "-nojit" as the
first argument.
(i.e., JRE_MEMORY_OPTIONS=-nojit -ms16m -mx32m)
^^^^^^
* Other entries should remain the same
c. Launch setup.exe from the temporary location on your hard
drive (i.e.
e:\temp\install\win32\setup.exe). This will use the
modified
oraparam.ini and pick up the information from the CD since
the absolute
locations are specified.
Choose a Custom install and choose not to create a database
during the
install. This way, the Database Configuration Assistant will
not be launched
during installation.
The Net8 Configuration Assistant will still be launched, and
there is no way
to suppress it. You will need to kill the Net8 Configuration
Assistant if it
hangs due to the bug. The installation still will have been
successful, and
you can run the DBCA and NetCA after installation.
To kill NetCA if it hangs during installation:
In the "Configuration Tools" window, highlight the "Net8
Configuration
Assistant" and click "Stop". If that does not work, look for
the most recent
JRE process using the Task Manager, and kill it manually.
NOTE: the OUI
itself will also have a jre process. Be sure to kill the one
with the most
recent date, which should be the jre process being used for
Net8CA, not the
one for OUI itself.
After killing the configuration tools and continuing through
the installation
to the "End of Installation" screen, you should modify the
configuration tools
to use "-nojit", then call the appropriate tools from the
Start Menu.
Once installation is complete, each of the following files in
the ORACLE_HOME
needs to be modified:
assistants\dbca\dbassist.cl
assistants\dbma\dbmig.cl
assistants\ifa\ifa.cl
bin\elogin.cl
bin\owm.cl
ldap\oidamdin\oidadmin.cl
network\tools\netasst.cl
network\tools\netca.cl
owm\install\instelogin.cl
owm\install\instowm.cl
Edit the contents of the above files to add "-nojit" as shown
below:
Command=("C:\Program Files\Oracle\jre\1.1.7\BIN\JREW" -nojit
-classpath ....
this is the only thing you need to add --> ^^^^^^
Then, launch the necessary tools, like Net8CA and DBCA from
the Start Menu.
Patches
~~~~~~~
Currently there is not a patched installer available to deal
with this
problem, the workaround listed above must be used.
References
~~~~~~~~~~
[BUG:1507768] INSTALLER FAILS WHEN RUNNING ON NEW PENTIUM 4
(IV) PROCESSORS
[BUG:1507946] INSTALLER FAILS WHEN RUNNING ON NEW INTEL
PENTIUM 4 (IV) PROCESSORS
@[BUG:1518935] SYMCJIT.DLL DOESN'T WORK WITH THE NEW P4
PROCESSORS
Oracle
Support Services.
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Reserved. Legal Notices and Terms of Use.
================================================================
The solution of making a local copy of the installation CD on
the hard disk and renameing symcjit.dll to symcjit.old does
work to allow installation of Oracle Client 8.1.7 on a Pentium 4
This function is useful and you can find two file to rename
===============================================================
Windows ME
Solution to the installation of Oraclei8.1.7 PE in Windows Millennium
Oracle does not support installing version 8.1.7 PE into
Windows Millennium.
As an unsupported workaround, you may add the following line
to the [compatibility95] section of win.ini prior to
installation:
Jrew=0x00080000
After setup is complete, Oracle will recommend a reboot.
There is one additional step necessary prior to reboot;
Oracle may add a non-standard path statement to the
autoexec.bat file. Please modify this SET PATH
statement to use short-filenames if you find a quoted
LFN string represented as part of the path. You can
confirm that the path was merged successfully into the
registry after reboot by examining the PATH variable
in the registry at
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\SessionManager\Environment
Symptoms of a missing Oracle path statement in the registry are that Net8 Easy Config will not launch.
Please note that Oracle does not support the use of this
product in Windows ME, but have authorized these workarounds
for testing purposes only.
===============================================================
Windows XP Home Edition
Oracle 8i is not certified on windows XP. Even if yes, it must be Windows XP Professional.
You can install Oracle8i on windows XP Home Edition, try like this:
1 - Copy your Oracle CD into hard disk in your
machine. For example Copy from oracle8i CD into C:\Oracle\ ...
2 - Search the two files named Symcjit.dll on the D drive (where you have copied Oracle8i. You can found them in (example):
C:\Oracle\stage\Components\oracle.swd.jre\1.1.7.30\1
\DataFiles\Expanded\jre\win32\bin\symcjit.dll
3 - Rename this file (Example): symcjit_back.dll (make sure to find two files and rename them)
4 - Execute the Oracle setup.exe from C:\Oracle\setup.exe
===============================================================
When Oracle 8i dies on the install or the installer hangs, here is the fix for this, make sure that you have Service Pack 2 installed.
1. \JRE\1.3.1\ From Sun. (You can download java program at http://java.sun.com/products/jdk/1.1/jre/download-jre-windows.html)
2. Install the java file.
There is also a problem in the installation disk.
3. Make a copy of the Oracle 8i disk on the local hard disk.
4. Do a search for the two files called symcjit.dll and rename them for example: symcjit.old.
5. Install Oracle from the win32 directory.
================================================================
PLEASE NOTE THAT ORACLE DOESN'T SUPPORT THE USE OF THOSE PRODUCTS IN WINDOWS ME, BUT HAVE AUTHORIZED THESE WORKAROUNDS FOR TESTING PURPOSES ONLY
Best Regards,
Beau Leo

Hi,Beau Leo, I am having problem installing Oracle9i Database Rel.2 on my pc.
I read the suggestion and solution you posted for fixing Oracle 8.1.x installation
probblem, and since my pc also hung at 48% while installing Oracle 9i software,
I wonder if the same problem in the Oracle8 Vs.Pentium4 also exists for Oracle9i.
I have Windows2000,256RAM, Pentium3 1Ghz, and 13.8 free diskspace. But the installation always
hangs at 48%, my computer will just shut down and restart automatically without
even showing an error message. I have tried installing the Enterprise edition for 3
times already but everytime encountered the same problem. I've also tried custom installation
by selecting not to create database, but it also hung.
Before I started each installation, I always made sure that my registry and environment
path are cleared and that all the partially-installed Oracle files are deleted.
I hope that you or anyone who has a solution for this problem could be so kindly to help me out.
Thank you in advance.
ailee

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