Issue on Indirect Sales Rebate Processing

Hi Gurus,
I am working on Indirect Sales Rebate Processing in ECC 6.0, I got Struck at Updating of Indirect Sales info structure S961 at Transaction RBT_ENH_GEN where in background Billing Documents has to be generated, which is not happenning.
As this in High Priority, please someone help me in this regard.
Will be appreciated for an Immediate reponse.
Thanks in Advance
Raj

Hi Leo,
The scenario with coupons / points is managed in SAP CRM and is part of Loyalty Management:
/people/bhushan.khadpe/blog/2008/11/13/sap-crm-70-loyalty-management-high-volume-execution
I am sorry to say that the indirect sales rebate, extended or not, will not solve your need.
Indirect rebates are used to credit distributors based on sales done on third-party customers (the customers of the distributors). These sales will be registered in SAP using a "pendulum list" and indirect rebate agreement give credit based on indirect sales volume (these are proforma billing documents generated from the pendulum list data).
My understanding is that any company that wants to manage coupons / points natively in the SAP ERP has to program this functionality itself in the ERP or to interface SAP ERP with a specialized external application.
SAP recommended solution is to implement SAP CRM, but IMHO that is an overkill for many medium size companies.
I wish there would be a way to implement specific CRM functions natively in SAP ERP, like Trade Promotion Management or Points Management, so the Customer could stick with a single ERP / CRM system
Best Regards,
Franck

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Indirect sales rebate or indirect extended sales rebate

hi friends,
                    Anyone worked on indirect sales rebate help me out with the process scenario of indirect sales rebate or indirect extended sales rebate. i do have the configuration document but want to know where or for what scenario its used.
my req:
          Manufacturer --> distributor --> endcustomer.
1. distributor buys from manufacturer and gets some coupons along with material directly proportionate to the value of invoice.
   eg.
          invoice value--rs. 1 lakh
                                 he will get 10 coupon A or 5 coupon B. or both
2. Then he sells the same to end customer with his own conditions.(sale between distributor and end customer not captured in SAP as of now.)
3. anytime the end customer may come to the MANUFACTURER with the coupons(not to the distributor from whom he purchased his goods) and will get his coupon redeemed, by buying Free of Charge items for the total value of coupon he possess.
4. coupons need to be validated ie. checked whether its been bought from the distributor to whom the manufacturer has sold it to and not from any other distributor.
> is indirect sales rebate or extenced sales rebate (both r same i believe) applicable here. if so how??
if not-- help me with best way to go ahead with the scenario.
             thanks in advance..
leo

Hi Leo,
The scenario with coupons / points is managed in SAP CRM and is part of Loyalty Management:
/people/bhushan.khadpe/blog/2008/11/13/sap-crm-70-loyalty-management-high-volume-execution
I am sorry to say that the indirect sales rebate, extended or not, will not solve your need.
Indirect rebates are used to credit distributors based on sales done on third-party customers (the customers of the distributors). These sales will be registered in SAP using a "pendulum list" and indirect rebate agreement give credit based on indirect sales volume (these are proforma billing documents generated from the pendulum list data).
My understanding is that any company that wants to manage coupons / points natively in the SAP ERP has to program this functionality itself in the ERP or to interface SAP ERP with a specialized external application.
SAP recommended solution is to implement SAP CRM, but IMHO that is an overkill for many medium size companies.
I wish there would be a way to implement specific CRM functions natively in SAP ERP, like Trade Promotion Management or Points Management, so the Customer could stick with a single ERP / CRM system
Best Regards,
Franck

Franchisee POS Sales rebate accrued against vendor

Hi,
Following requirement from the client:
Generate rebate settlement for a Vendor based on POS sales made by Retail stores.
Proposed standard SAP solution:
1. Create for each vendor master record a customer master record. And assign the customer master record to vendor master record.
2. Create sales rebate for u201Ccustomeru201D master record and related articles. A sales rebate is created for each sales channel for which POS sales will be received.
3. Activate rebates processing in retail stores site master.
4. Process the POS sales from the retail stores. The sales rebate is automatically accrued per sales channel and for the u201Ccustomeru201D and related articles.
5. Execute sales rebate settlement. A sales order and SD billing document is automatically created to settle the accrued rebate against the u201Ccustomeru201D.
6. Check vendor accounts payable and you will see here the u201Ccustomeru201D rebate amount appears here.
Issue:
Client has company owned stores and franchisee stores. The company owned stores belong to SAP company code X and the franchisee stores belong to SAP company code Y. The rebate settlement that is accrued for the franchisee stores should be posted in company code X, can this be achieved with standard SAP?
Considerations:
u2022 The client does not want to assign the franchisee sales channel to SAP company code X, rightfully franchisee sales should be posted in company code Y.
u2022 SAP Agency business can handle above company structure from a Vendor invoicing perspective and probably also procurement rebate processing, though not sure about above described sales rebate processing.
u2022 Vistex Corp. has possibly a solution for this, though this software piece is not included in the solution scope.
Does somebody has a recommendation?
Alwin van Haren

In this case you will need to get the validated POS data uploaded into ECC by CRM. this POS data can be used to create claims in ECC which can be used as source documents to accrue and settle later. This is easily achievable in Vistex, standard add on product on top of ECC to handle rebates.

Rebate processes

sap gurus
pls clarify me about rebate processes and final settlement and manual accurulswith examples.

Dear Siva,
Final settlement
Use
When you carry out final settlement of a rebate agreement, the system automatically
calculates the rebate based on the sales volume statistics or the lump sum
deducts any previously paid rebates
It then creates a credit memo request, and proposes the end date of the agreement validity period as the billing date.
The system also reverses any accruals that have been posted.
Depending on Customizing, when the system creates a credit memo request, the document is automatically blocked for billing. After approving the credit memo request, the person responsible can remove the billing block. You can then create the final credit memo.
When you want to search for credit memo requests during sales order processing, you can use the matchcode F "Credit memo request for rebate".
You can carry out final settlement of rebate agreements
automatically
Manually
as a background task (in batch)
Settling Single Rebate Agreements
You can carry out settlement directly from within a rebate agreement.
Before you save the rebate agreement you can still carry out changes to the credit memo request:
The credit memo request is only saved when you save the rebate agreement.
Carrying out Final Settlement as a Background Task
If the volume of your sales rebate processing is high, you can collectively process rebate settlements as a background task.
The following reports are available:
RV15C001
RV15C002
Your system administrator can use these reports to generate a list of rebate agreements, based on various selection criteria, such as rebate recipient, status of the agreement, and so on.
Background processing can then be carried out later. I.e., after the regular posting periods.
After a list is generated, the rebate agreements can be analyzed or processed for payment.
For more information about settling rebates as a background task, see your system administrator.
Working with Manual Accruals
Use
Posting accruals manually can be useful in different situations such as:
Lump sum payments
Accruals correction
You can control at which time and for which amount the accruals should be posted.
You can build accruals for a particular condition record or reverse them in part or in full.
When you save the rebate agreement, the system will automatically create a credit memo request. The system uses this document to create a credit memo. When the credit memo is released, the accruals are posted to FI.
If you have posted accruals manually, but these have not been passed on to financial accounting, the manual accruals and manual payments in the rebate agreement are blocked.
I hope it will help you,
Regards,
Murali.

Indirect sales with extended rebate processing

Hi Friends,
I am creating the indirect sales with extended rebate processing secnario. I have created the rebate agreement,created the requirement data,created the sales request and created the sales confirmation by manulaly data entry, then updating the indirect slaes system is through the error ther is no sales data.
so pls suggest me your valubale inpputs .
Thanks,
E.vasu.

Hi All,
I have done all required configuration for Extended Rebate Processing.
Additionally I have put all required data in step u201CCreating Sales Confirmation- Entering Data manuallyu201D. Here I have put name of material & its quantity that has been sold from wholesaler to its customer (Indirect Customer).
As I am not able to get indirect extended sales order & billing document number it wonu2019t be possible to update Info structure S136 & S469 (RBT_ENH_RMCSS469) as required for rebate basis.
I am facing error/issues at two places.
In Step: Updating sales data:
I have put Sales area, Wholesaler & clicked on Display only errors, so the expected result is that I should get Document number of indirect order. But I am not getting same. Please help.
In Step: Updating of Indirect sales:
I have put Month, sales area and I was suppose to get Indirect billing document number but I am getting message as u201CNO data selected for updateu201D.
Please let me know even I am missing some basic configuration.
Thanks
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Extended Rebate Processing-Pendelum List Indirect Sales

Hello Experts,
I find myself with the following requirement.
Situation:
-       Bonus/rebate payouts are currently conducted to end customers via third party tools.
-       These end customers are not served by the company directly, instead goods are sold by some agents.
-       The agents buy from the company, therefore the sales process to the end customer is not reflected in the company ERP.
-       End customers are not created as customers in company ERP systems.
Requirements:
-       Solution required to automize bonus/rebate payouts to end customers based on delivered sales revenues by the agents.
Conclusions:
-        COPA EHP functionality for extended rebate processing to be analyzed if suitable for this requirement.
I have been doing some searching and came across the “Pendulum List Indirect Sales”
“The Pendelum List Indirect Sales component is an enhancement of Extended Rebate Processing. The pendulum list enables you to process indirect sales. The Pendulum List component provides tools for automatic data import.”
Extended Rebate Processing is integrated in SAP Profitability Analysis (CO-PA). SAP Profitability Analysis supports the article-specific update of the “customer rebate”
Ref-http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/5a/5b9b3c0f4da40ee10000000a11405a/frameset.htm
The above statements seem to fit my requirement but I am not able to find any further literature on the topic which explains in detail how it actually works. Most of the prior SDN topics are also unanswered or partially answered.
I would really appreciate it if some one could help me understand how this works and <Text removed by Moderator.>, that would be really great.
Thanks and Regards
ES
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Message was edited by: Jyoti Prakash

Thanks Arun.
I understand now that to have the extended rebate functionality we have to activate the generic Business Function- EA-ISSE (Industry specific sales enhancement).
I am more interested in the Indirect sales functionality for which I understand we have to use the Pendulum List Indirect Sales component.
I have a situation where I am a producer and I have wholesalers who have end customers. The end customers may or may not belong to a corporation(an umberalla organization) .
I want to set rebates on the sales of the end customers. The sales details of the end customer would be given to me (producer) by the wholesaler. But the rebate payments, I (the producer) want to pay it out to the Wholesaler ( I understand the standard solution is to pay out to the end customer) with details of each end user rebates.
Do you have any pointers to how this could be acheived?

Extended rebate processing for INDIRECT sales

Hello All,
Does anyone of you configured extended rebate processing for indirect sales?
If yes i would need some help on steps which needs to be carried out. I particulary have rroubles with generating confirmation of sales.
Please advise
Thanks in advance
Mike

You can find the building blocks at http://help.sap.com/bp_cp1600/CP_US/HTML/bb_scen_list.htm
If you want to activate the functionality, then you can refer OSS 1520390 - Activation of Enhanced Rebate Functionalities - IMG Customizing Transactions - SAP Menu
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Extended rebate processing for INDIRECT sales (Consumer products solution)

Hello All,
Does anyone of you configured extended rebate processing for indirect sales?
If yes i would need some help on steps which needs to be carried out.
Please advise
Thanks in advance
Mike

You can find the building blocks at http://help.sap.com/bp_cp1600/CP_US/HTML/bb_scen_list.htm
If you want to activate the functionality, then you can refer OSS 1520390 - Activation of Enhanced Rebate Functionalities - IMG Customizing Transactions - SAP Menu
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Indirect sales -Extended rebates

Hi team
I want to understand how indirect sales process work using Extended rebates.
Basically what needs to be activated in basis componenets and configuration.
Master data and process steps.
Please let me know the details.
Thanks & Regards

Dear SD21032011
Please give the vivid requirement in order to fix your issue.
If you want to know about the rebate process please surf in the forum you will get immense information.
Apart from that get this link too
http://www.erpgenie.com/publications/saptips/052005.pdf
Let me know if you have any further clarifications
Thanks&Regards
Raghu.k

Rebate Processing - Value Difference -Verfication level and Sales Volume

Dear All ,
We are using standard rebate process - Customer Rebates and we have encountered the following issue .
1. The Rebate agreement was created on 01/12/2010 with validity from 01/12/2001 , valid through 31/03/2010.The Rebate recipient was not activated for Rebate in the month of DEC 2009 and was activated on 15/01/2010 . We have executed VBOF and found that the Accruals are calculated from 15/01/2010 till date which is 25,010 USD ( for the invoices which are created from 15/01/2010) but it is not taken into consideration of the invoices which are created in the month of December 2009.
We have checked and calculated manually the accruals which is amounting to 35,575 USD for the period ( 01/12/2009 to 14/01/2010) . This accrual amount is not updated for the agreement .
Can any one give inputs on this issue.
Thanks in advance .
Regards
Veera
Edited by: veera PV on Mar 6, 2010 11:07 AM
Dear All ,
I have executed the VBOF couple of times and the sales volume is updated correctly now - 51,277.20 USD . but when i selected the agreement and clicked on verfication level it is not showing up all the invoices and the value shown is 43,025.10 USD . There is difference of 8252.10.
Now the issue is how do i get all the invoices in the verfication level.
Can any one give inputs on this .
Thanks in advance to all of you.
Regards
Veera
Edited by: veera PV on Mar 6, 2010 11:08 AM

Hello,
please check this thred Re: VBOF Issue related to updating Old Invoices after activating Rebate Check.
Best regards,
Ivano.

SAP R/3 to External System RFC issue during Sales Order Processing

Hi Experts,
We have one Peculiar issue in our SAP R/3. Request you to help me in resolving this.
Order Processing:
During Sales Orders Processing, for every line item a RFC is being initiated from SAP R/3 to an external system called Trilogy Pricer to get the Pricing data.
Trilogy Pricer sends the Pricing data to SAP R/3 and the respective Orders are being processed in SAP R/3.
Current Issue:
The issue we are facing is that, once the Pricing data is sent to SAP R/3, Trilogy Pricer expects an acknowledgement (RFC_OK) from SAP R/3 in order to release the RFC connection. Intermittently, Trilogy Pricer is not receiving this or any kind of acknowledgement from SAP R/3 causing the connection to hang which is causing several problems.
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On every business day, there will be 50,000 Sales orders.
So, 5 or 10 sales orders are getting hanged every day.
We tried to simulate this issue in Dev and Stage environments by processing 30,000 to 40,000 sales orders.
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We are having this problem only in Prod.
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Advance thanks for your great help.
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How to activate Extended Rebate Processing in Customizing for billing?

sap gurus:
How to activate Extended Rebate Processing in Customizing for billing?

SAP Knowledge Base Article
1520390 - Activation of Enhanced Rebate Functionalities - IMG Customizing Transactions - SAP Menu
Version 1 Validity: 19.10.2010 - active
Language English
Symptom
Enhanced Rebate Functionality is not available and should be activated
In the customizing IMG (Transaction SPRO) the node for Extended Rebate with the relevant customizing transactions are not visible
The SAP Menu does not include the transactions for Extended Rebate
Environment Enterprise Function EA-ISE must be available in the system (visible in transaction SFW5).
Reproducing the Issue
Call transaction SPRO
Node Extended Rebate Processing is missing:
IMG
Sales and Distribution
   > Billing
        > Rebate Processing
             > .................
Resolution To activate the Extended Rebate Processing and make the node and customizing transactions visible proceed in the following way:
Call transaction SFW5
In the folder ENTERPRISE_EXTENSIONS choose the function EA-ISE
Activate this enterprise extension
Thereafter the menu path in SPRO for Extended Rebate Processing will be visible:
IMG
Sales and Distribution
   > Billing
        > Rebate Processing
            > Extended Rebate Processing
                        * Settings for Agreement Types
                        * Set up Variable Key for Rebate Settlement
                        * Check Variable Key for Rebate Settlement
                        * Activate Extended Rebate Processing
                        * Simulate And Execute Reorganization of Statistical Data
Furthermore the users will have the relevant transactions available in the SAP Menu:
SAP menu
> Logistics
     > Sales and Distribution
          > Billing
               > Rebate
                    > Extended Rebate Processing
                         * RBT_ENH_VB7 - Extended Rebate Settlement
                         * RBT_ENH_ACT - Update of Indirect Sales
                         * RBT_ENH_PLAN - Update of Indirect Planning Data
For futher infomation on the extended rebate process please refer to the following links of SAP help portal:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/5a/5b9b3c0f4da40ee10000000a11405a/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/79/a5ee3c1f63a518e10000000a11405a/frameset.htm
Keywords
Extended rebate agreement, extended rebate processing, erweiterte Bonusabwicklung, Menü, Pfad nicht vorhanden, aktivieren, erweiterter Bonus, Bonusabsprache
Header Data
Released On
21.10.2010 08:01:20
Release Status
Released to Customer
Component
SD-BIL-RB-ENH Enhanced Rebates
Other Components
   SD-BIL-RB Rebate Processing
Priority
Normal
Category
How To
Product
Product
Product Version
SAP ERP Central Component
All versions
SAP R/3 Enterprise 4.7
All versions

Probel on rebates processing

hi all
curentlly i am working on rebates...
i did all necessary configurations setting to rebates processing ,,
i did below steps
cerqating rebate aggrement type like 0002.
*condition technique concept for rebate processing .
*a/c det for rebates processing.
*activation of rebates processing.
*maintain condition records. in VBO1.
After this steps i raise a sales order for sold to party. and done the business process up to 4 times.. then i want see the rebate settlement..
so for that i go for vbo2 and clicked on valume icon, and checked verfication levels..and just came to back and clicked on manual rebate icon ..in that wea\ are maintain the patial settlement..
here to i didn't found the next step how to go?? pls any one help me if you have any document pls mail me at [email protected]

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Extended Rebate Processing - Data flow in tables

Hi Gurus,
Can somebody help me understand how data flows through various tables in extended rebate processing. i.e. once a new condition record for a rebate agreement is created, in which table it is updated first? Once VBOF is executed, which are the tables taken as reference and which are the ones updated on execution.
Please explain wrt all concerned tables and info-structures like KONA,KONV,KONH,KONP,S136 & S469.
It'll be a great help if somebody could explain thoroughly.
Thanks & Regards.

Thanks Arun.
I understand now that to have the extended rebate functionality we have to activate the generic Business Function- EA-ISSE (Industry specific sales enhancement).
I am more interested in the Indirect sales functionality for which I understand we have to use the Pendulum List Indirect Sales component.
I have a situation where I am a producer and I have wholesalers who have end customers. The end customers may or may not belong to a corporation(an umberalla organization) .
I want to set rebates on the sales of the end customers. The sales details of the end customer would be given to me (producer) by the wholesaler. But the rebate payments, I (the producer) want to pay it out to the Wholesaler ( I understand the standard solution is to pay out to the end customer) with details of each end user rebates.
Do you have any pointers to how this could be acheived?

Field selection in Rebate processing

Hi Expert,
I want to consider Quantity Contract number (VBELN) as one of criteria for rebate processing when i create condition table accordingly and add this table in access sequence and select Fields tab system shows Condition as VBELN, Document struct as Blank, Doc Field as Blank,I/O as RED light.Also system issues a message that select document field for VBELN message no VT510.
I think there are limited fields available for rebate processing.
Please suggest the solution for above problem.

Hi Balu Mandade
VBELN is the Current Sales Document Number. whether it is invoice or billing document or delivery.
This will not take the quantity contract number. if you want the quantity contract number, then create a new custom field in the communication structure KOMPAZ and MODIFY THE USEREXIT_PRICING_PREPARE_TKOMP to retreive the quantity contract document from the sales order and pass it to the custom field.
The Quanity contract can be obtained either by the document flow of the sales order number or by the vbap-vgbel. ( if the sales order is created with reference to a quanity contract)
Then create a new access sequence with the custom field and then create a fresh rebate agreeement. and invoice.
Now the system reads the quantity contract iformation and if there is any cond record maintained, it will trigger in the invoice.
This excersise is necessary because the rebate conditions are triggered only in the invoices and in the invoice table VBRP we dont find the quantity contract information.
Rgds

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