LabVIEW RT on third party targets

Can LabVIEW RT be used with any target that runs VxWorks or Pharlap?
We have software developed in LabVIEW RT for cFP and RIO controllers, and like the way the whole setup works - with an in-built ftp- and web server, development and debugging from a host computer etc.
We now need the same software in a compact and rugged subsea unit. Putting a controller inside would not be very practical though, so we are looking for better ways to do this without having to ditch LV RT in the process.
Single board RIOs could be an option, but they are still rather large, they do not seem to be built for much vibration(?), and they have plenty of unnecessary IO (we just need TCP/IP and serial, preferably multiple RS485 ports). Are there any NI products that would be more suitable, and if not - is it possible to run LabVIEW RT on other hardware if it runs the same OS, i.e. VxWorks or Pharlap?
The next choice would be a single board computer running XP Embedded or Windows Mobile... It needs to be tiny, energy efficient and rugged though. Any suggestions?
MTO
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Hi,
Due to the way LabVIEW RT is installed it is specifically targetted to NI hardware and some Dell Desktops dependant on the type of motherboard due to ethernet drivers. A product you may be interested in is CompactRIO, it offers a ruggedised shell with a real time processing unit, back plane FPGA for fast communication and the ability to add different C-Series modules which would be perfect for your serial needs.
The device is very energy efficient as it runs a slow processor but with a real time operating system and also offers the ability to provide a backup power supply.
The C-Series modules you would probably be most interested in are the RS485 modules
Let me know if you have any other questions/concerns or require more details,
All the best
Applications Engineer

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