Location, keywords and geotagging

I've read that many people don't recommend to use keywords for location, since the IPTC location fields are for that.
How do you people use that? The reasons I ask are two:
1) Adding a location, city, state/province and country in the ITPC fields means I have to type in all those four, whereas if I have those in a keyword hierarchy entering the location is enough as the parents are added automatically.
2) When exporting to Flickr, Smugmug etc., how do people find photos by location if there are no tags for location?
The other question is how you geotag your photos? Picasa for example has a way to open selected photos in Google Earth to set their location and save it to the metadata. Do I need to use an external application to set these coordinates?
Thanks!
/Daniel

Sverre, yes that's why I think entering location data to the IPTC fields require more work than I am ready to put into it (or I will get more and more behind with keywording my photos because of the time it takes...).
Dorin, that's great that Flickr automatically creates tags from some of the Location fields. Unfortunately Smugmug doesn't seem to do the same...
I'm thinking geotagging might be the way to go, that is using Google Earth to set the coordinates for the photo, as it then will show where on a map the photo was taken. Works with Smugmug for example, as well as PicasaWeb if Lightroom users use that (I do, since it's so easy for newbies to navigate galleries).
But that requires me to open the folder with the exported photos in Picasa and set the longitude and latitude in Google Earth from there. I guess there's no easier way to add those data from Lightroom?

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I have hundreds of keywords and metadata including Ratings and Labels using CS4 and Bridge CS4.
It is time to replace my PPC Mac with a new Intel Mac.
I am going to install CS6 on the new Intel Mac without installing CS4.
By default.... this eliminates ALL keywords and ratings and labels from my Bridge browser. The keywords will still be present on the files but Not present in Bridge keywords list and all ratings and labels will be lost.
Making a copy of Bridge CS4 metadata to another computer is quite simple.
Simply copy All of the Bridge CS4 application support folder to the other computer.
The question then becomes.... can I aslo do this with CS6 without introducing an incompatibility?
1. incompatible due to CS6 application support.
2. incompatible due to transfer from a PPC (APM) to Intel (GUID).
This concern results from an Bridge CS4 export problem I experienced.
Bridge CS4 will export all of your keywords and you can import them from a text file but it has some odd troubles. (try it and you will see)
This does Not mean that CS6 has the same troubles.
What do I require to preserve existing metedata and keywords that exist on a PPC using CS4 and import them into CS6 using Intel?
Sound simple?
I doubt it.
The points are.
1. CS4 not installed.
2. CS4 source is PPC not Intel.
3. Ratings and Labels are metadata that Are Not part of the file metadata and unique to Bridge only.
4. Keyword Search and keyword Use requires that Bridge have keyword list, otherwise Finder is the far more useful browser and the new version of Bridge will require hours of keyword listing.
I don't want to spends hours retyping keywords lists in Bridge.

Ratings are NOT placed into the file under CS4 Bridge and neither are
Labels.
That depends on your file type and settings voor Camera Raw.
Like Curt stated usually metadata is written in to the file itself. Only Raw files can't be written to and by default they create a XMP file, also called Sidecar XMP files (and do have the same filename, only a different extension called .xmp). These files are also by default hidden in Bridge but If you use Bridge to move files they travel along with the original.
If you move or copy them using finder you have to be sure these XMP files are also copied with the originals to the new location.
Using the menu View / show hidden files should reveal the XMP files.
An other option for the Camera Raw prefs is to set metadata to the Camera Raw database instead of written to sidecar XMP files ( to my knowledge using sidecar files has been the default since about CS3).
Now here it becomes a bit tricky and I only can tell you my findings, not to be confused with true facts. (and mind you, it is at least 5 years ago I was on a PPC and not even remember which OSX 10 was able to work on it, I just present the acting of CS6 on an intel Mac Pro with OSX 10.7, but I don't believe the difference in location is that much)
Having written the Metadata to the Camera Raw Database your image settings get written to a file in the user library preferences folder called logically "Adobe Camera Raw Database". But also some info gets added to the Camera Raw Cache folder (User library / Caches/ Adobe Camera Raw) in a file called index.dat.
Also not having set metadata to xmp sidecars stores the ACR settings in a new .dat file with a unique number (not to be traced as a corresponding filename. And also the default maximum is set to 1 GB of space and when full the oldest files are overwritten with the new ones.
Personally I use converted DNG files that are capable of writing metadata to so all info and settings are in the file itself and I don't need to bother about central storage that can get lost. The downside is that changes to a DNG need to save the whole file instead of a small xmp file and probably reading cache takes more time then getting info from central storage but I like to be on the safe side and speed is not really needed to be nailed down to split seconds in my workflow.
Keywords are stored as a file in the Bridge preferences but Like Curt already stated exporting the old list first and then via the same route import again to CS6 should solve your problem and they will be back as persistent, otherwise the files in the content window show as italic and sadly enough have to be made persistent one by one with right click mouse menu, so that is not really an option for you.
Exporting the list does create a text file that can also be altered manually with a simple text app and as said, again be imported in newer versions as Curt described earlier.
Making a copy of Bridge CS4 metadata to another computer is quite simple.
Simply copy All of the Bridge CS4 application support folder to the other computer.
Well, in fact it is true to call copying this folders a simple task but replacing the existing new CS6 would not be my method. The biggest change for Bridge CS6 was the transition to 64 bit and I lack the knowledge for this but also cache format for thumbs and previews has been different for every version.
But if you have located the CS4 folder for Bridge in your PPC user library / application support / Adobe / Bridge CS4 you should find a file called 'Adobe Bridge Keywords.xml' and it is fairly safe to replace this CS4 version with the new CS6 version.
Also custom settings for the output module can be copied (however to my memory the option for custom settings in Output where introduced in CS5) and collections can be copied.
So for your keywords the copy option might work, rating and labeling for Raw files they will be read in CS6 if they are stored as XMP. ACR settings idem but CS6 ACR has a new (2012) conversion mode that has different settings that do not work with previous settings (unless you first choose to use the 2010 conversion as default Raw setting.
If it is in the Central Data Base I would start trying to replace the CS4 with the CS6 edition (after back up of existing CS6 version) and see what happens. If it works your out of trouble.
You can also open the Camera raw Database as a text file but there is a lot of data in. Maybe scripting would be able to reveal those data and transfer to XMP but you have to visit the dedicated Scripting forum for this.
And while you state to have not installed CS4 anymore it might be wise to reinstall it (but first make a proper back up of the previous mentioned folders and files to be on the save side.
This gives you the opportunity to export keywords properly and if needed you can use Show Items from subfolders option with filter and set preferences to XMP sidecar to refresh the rating and labels to those XMP files. Just an escape route that might not be as painstakingly as it looks at first sight, just use the options for Bridge to filter.

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Exporting keywords and comments?

Is there a way to export keywords, or comments?
Basically my iPhoto library is getting too big and running slow, so what I want to do is move all of the "older" photos onto an external drive and be able to find the pics using a spotlight search, but not keeping them in iPhoto.
Thanks,
"D"

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Spotlight can find keyworded images in an iPhoto library located on an external HD. One way to do what you want is what Lori suggested, copy your library to the external, open it and delete those photos you plan on keeping on the boot drive library. Then open your boot drive library and delete those that are in the external drive library. To make it easier you can create a new keyword for those destined to the external drive.
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My digital camera is a Canon Power Shot S2 IS. Before buying PS Elements 6, I organized photos using the Canon-supplied software, Zoom Browser EX. Many of the photos have keywords and comments using the Zoom Browser formats.
Is it possible to get these keywords and comments attached to the photos once they are in PS Elements 6? Have any of you folks successfully done this? I've looked in the usual help locations, but so far I have not been able to do this. PhotoShop Elements does not seem to know how to look into the Zoombrowser metadata or thumbnail files that go with the Jpeg picture files in each folder.
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A quick Web search finds other people asking the same question. The various postings suggest that the Canon Zoombrowser probably stores keywords and captions in a properietary format, rather than in the industry standard metadata sections of the photos themselves (the "EXIF" data) that most other programs, including PSE 6, use. So you may be out of luck.
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I have a master folder that contains a series of folders with several thousand images, all with keywords. Things seem to work when I try a FIND, etc. However my old keyword structure needs to be fine tuned. I created a new structure and some of the old image keywords stored in the file metadata do find the corresponding keyword in the new structure. But some images bring in the old structure as a temporary/italicized entry into my new keyword structure. For example, I have an image with the keyword “Calumet”, that’s all I see when I look at the keyword list. My new keyword structure looks like:
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When I select the image rather than turning on the check in new structure Bridge creates an image of the old structure:
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Other images with other keywords work but unfortunately there is a series of keywords that continue to bring in the old structure. I can’t visually see how Bridge knows that the image’s use of ‘Calumet’ was originally linked to Hghtn Cnty to Locations when I first added the keywords. I unfortunately assumed that all that was saved was the sub keyword ‘Calumet’ and that Bridge would search my new structure to find a match, “Calumet” to “Calumet”, wherever Calumet appears in the new list. Does anyone know how Bridge saves the links between sub keywords and keywords and how to change that link? I have several thousand images to alter or should I just stick with the old keyword structure?

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My best guess is that you have to dump the cache and let it rebuild, and then re-index your folders. You could test this by purging the cache for one problem folder (tools/cache/purge cache for xxx folder". Visit the folder and let it rebuild then do a search on that folder to see it the search now works.
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ORA-30648 - missing LOCATION keyword

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Savings Keywords and GPS with RAW/JPEG mixture

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Can I add or edit Keywords and captions from within the Map module?

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Can I add or edit Keywords and captions from within the Map module?
created by Modesto Vega in Photoshop Lightroom - View the full discussionYou should be able to change the title, the caption, the sublocation, the city, the state/province, the country, the ISO country code, the altitude, the direction, and a few other fields. However, you cannot add keywords. It would be real nice if Adobe could add this to the Map module. If the reply above answers your question, please take a moment to mark this answer as correct by visiting: https://forums.adobe.com/message/7145077#7145077 and clicking ‘Correct’ below the answer Replies to this message go to everyone subscribed to this thread, not directly to the person who posted the message. To post a reply, either reply to this email or visit the message page: Please note that the Adobe Forums do not accept email attachments. If you want to embed an image in your message please visit the thread in the forum and click the camera icon: https://forums.adobe.com/message/7145077#7145077 To unsubscribe from this thread, please visit the message page at , click "Following" at the top right, & "Stop Following" Start a new discussion in Photoshop Lightroom by email or at Adobe Community For more information about maintaining your forum email notifications please go to https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1516624.

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I use Events simply as big buckets of Photos: Spring 08, July - Nov 06 are typical Events in my Library. I use keywords and Smart Albums exensively. I title the pics broadly.
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In the end, organisation is about finding the pics. The point is to make locating that pic or batch of pics findable fast. This system works for me.
Regards
TD

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