Mail rules on iCloud Web

I know that in case I don't want to receive mail from a certain sender this has to be done by defining a rule. Of course this rule must be added on the iCloud server because it doesn't know anything about my local rules. It's OK that rules don't get synched between devices and I don't know of any IMAP Server that does that. So far so good. My problem is, that I don't want to receive mails from that person at all. Mac Mail provides an option like "if sender is bla then delete the message". However, if you go to the iCloud web page, which is the right place to add that rule, the only option provided is to move the mail to a certain folder. That is I can only set up a rule that moves the mail to trash, but that means it still get delivered to my client (iphone or mac). Alright, it's in the trash folder but that's not what I intend to do. As I said before the message should be completely deleted without going to any folder at all.
Most likely there's no solution other than sending a feature request to apple.
Unfortunately I have no idea how I can do that. Could someone please tell me where I can request to add that feature? There are more features missing, e.g. it's not possible to define a rule that should only be true if two conditions are true at the same time. But that's yet another feature I'd request. For now it would be enough for me to know where I can request.

I had found that page in google search results but didn't go to the site, because for me requesting a feature or opening a bug and giving feedback is not quite the same. Anyway, thanks for your reply. I already gave "feedback". I don't think it will be implemented, but let's see.

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Setting up mail rules on icloud

I have just migrated from mobileme to icloud - a scary exercise which seems to require quite a lot of tidying up. Here are some questions relating to using mail.
This is what I would like to happen:
1. When I read a message for the first time - whether on my Mac, iPad or iPhone, I want it to be moved to a number of mailboxes I have set up (or to trash).
2. When I read the same message later on one of the two other devices, I would like to see it mark as read and filed in the appropriate mailbox
3. When I send a message or reply (on any of the three devices) I would like my message to be moved to an appropriate mailbox, rather than remain in Sent.
4. When I set up a mail rule on iCloud I would like the same versatility as on my current Mac mail rules, with interaction between the rule and the address book, ability to have boolean rules with lots of either/or/and components. For example, on my Mac I have a rule moving all messages from anyone in my Family group in the Address book to a mailbox called 'family'. I have a rule which says if the subject contains x and if the sender is y then move the message to mailbox z. I have another invaluable rule which moves any message from a sender not in my Address book to trash. Once a day I skim through trash to pick up any messages which should not be there and then can empty the remainder with one click.
So--
1-3 Am I right in saying these can be done? (I'm not sure whether the To: rule works - if it does, that is an improvement over the Mac mail rules).
4. The mail rules on iCloud seem incredibly limited compared with those on Mac Mail. Am I missing something? How for example do I set up the three examples I have given? (A related question - can Trash be moved to iCloud and how does it get emptied.)
Sorry for this collection of questions. What I wanted from iCloud was that I can continue to manage my email in boxes and trash, as at present, and that when I am away from base and my iMac, I see all my past correspondence for the year, and that I dont have to housekeep mail three times on the three devices. I do hope this will be possible and appreciate anyone pointing me towards tips/answers to my requirements.

Yeh thats where they make the big bucks.... we have managed up until not to share apps, either a 2nd account or my wife just goes without the cloud
I'm still confused as to how i can setup my [email protected], can i have both the iPad & iPhone on the same @me.com email address. Dis regarding the 2nd phone at the moment. presume i had [email protected] on both ipad & iphone i should receive emails at both devices

How can I make compound mail rules in iCloud?

I love the control that rules give you in Apple Mail, or any mail client for that matter. I use them for everything to sort nearly every piece of email that comes in on a daily basis. From daily advertisements to receipts they all have their place. I used to run my rules directly on my iMac or MacBook, but they didn't seem to translate to my mobile devices. I was told that I needed to manage my rules in iCloud directly. I've been doing so and they work well for the most part, but I've recently encountered two limits that I can't get around without a combination of iCloud rules and local/mac based rules:
A. iCloud limits you to 99 rules.
Now I know this number is a lot and maybe I'm just too type A because I've hit that limit and have needed to delete old rules to make room for new ones.
2. iCloud rules only allow for one criteria. For example, the iTunes store sends me emails for weekly alerts and then sends me receipts for my purchases. I'd like to filter receipts to one folder and all other iTunes emails to another folder, but since they both come from the same email address I cannot do so. If I choose to filter by "has subject containing" and type in "Your receipt" I'll obviously grab receipts from ANY vendor, not just iTunes. I could go the other way and filter by the subject containing "My Alerts" and the others, but then I would have to make multiple rules for each individual subject coming from iTunes, hence using up more than one rule of my 99 rule limit.
I know this sounds picky and granular, but it's just frustrating when the rules are SO detailed on the local machine, but so basic in iCloud. Any plans to update the rules or make them more robust?
Philip

I'm afraid that whether or not there are any plans about this, Apple don't tell us. If they do decide to increase the facilities we will only know when they implement it. (And by the Terms of Us of these Discussions we are not allowed to speculate.)

Mail rules and iCloud

Is there a way of copying mail rules in one mac to keep them alive on my macs after iCloud?
I would appreciate any help,
Thanks!
Mario Lordeiro

I'm using the same Apple ID for both accounts to allow syncing.
I use QUICKEN to track finances. The main reasons I set up two users is to separate fishing club finances from my personal finances and to separate documents. At this point I have decided to combine the two accounts; sort documents; and open separate QUICKEN accounts as needed. I do think that Apple Mail needs attention to correct inconsistencies such as the one I pointed out.
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Mail rules after iCloud

Is there a way of copying mail rules in one mac to keep them alive on my macs after iCloud?
I would appreciate any help,
Thanks!
mario Lordeiro

Nope. One of the reasons I'm sticking with MobileMe for as long as I can
Let Apple know that you would like this feature put back in.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/icloud.html

Alternatives to Mail Rules After iCloud?

So we know that mail rules aren't included in the transition to iCloud.
What are you using as an alternative? I have 100+ rules and don't mind redoing them into a Lion/iCloud compatible application, just need some ideas. I know they'll continue to work into 2012, but the day will come when I'll have to transition.
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Thanks,
John

No idea about a replacement for sync, but I do have an idea for a workaround:
If Mail rules are stored here:
>Library>Mail>MessageRules.plist
Why couldn't you just manually copy that plist file from your master machine and (replacing the old one) install it in the Library>Mail folder of your secondary machine?
It seems simple -- so I must be underestimating something.

How to inactivate notices of incoming Mail on the iCloud web interface?

The new iCould interface for Safari shows a notice for each incoming e-mail.
I would like to inactivate this feature and cannot find how.
On the iPhone it is possible to select for which sender we want such notices, or to simply stop them from appearing.
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Apple are unlikely to read your comments, if you have any suggestions that you think might enhance iCloud you can send Apple your feedback here.

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Anyone else having this problem where the Mail client on you Mac will not accept you new iClould account when you try to add you new iCloud account through the Mail preferences? I am running Snow Leopard.

I have similar symptoms.
The iCloud pane in System Preferences says "Starting..." and never finished.
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I have an imac with snow leopard. I do not have enough memory to get lion. I switched my mail to icloud and now my ipod touch has icloud. i can receive mail on my ipod touch and through the icloud web site, BUt I cannot receive mail on my mac directly

I have an imac with snow leopard. I do not have enough memory to get lion.
I switched my mail to icloud and now my ipod touch has icloud.
i can receive mail on my ipod touch and through the icloud web site, BUt I cannot receive mail on my mac directly any more. There is an exclamation point on my mail in box and also an ! on .mac.
Can anyone help me with settings so I can receive mail again directly on my mac?
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Mathmarv
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See this Apple note on troubleshooting icloud mail: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4002
You may have seen this page already: http://www.apple.com/support/icloud/mail-notes/

Some email images do not show while using the icloud web app. I can see the images on my IOS devices and in gmail but I only see a small gray box in the icloud web mail app. Load HTML images is checked in preferences.

Some email images do not show while using the icloud web app. I can see the images on my IOS devices and in gmail but I only see a small gray box in the icloud web mail app. Load HTML images is checked in preferences. Is there a solution to this issue?

I've seen the opposite issue. My wife recieved an email with jpg attachments. She couldn't see or print them on her iPhone 4S but they showed up fine in iCloud or in the mail app. I had her forward the email to herself and then they showed up. I assume there is an issue with how Apple is processing the attachments and resending causes them to get reformatted in a way that makes them easier to handle.
So yeah. Seems like some bugs. Hope Apple fixes them soon.

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This seems like a no brainer. When I view my email on my Iphone, I see all my Spam, which would already be dispatched to the Junk box on my desktop, had I looked there first. Why does iCloud not sync my Mail rules, and is there a solution for this?

It is not Mac to Mac.
Why not look up iCloud support, it was never offered as anything outside iOS 5 supported devices.
Maybe if you would stop reading into things what isn't there.
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I have set up my computer (2.66 GHz iMac core 2 duo, OSX 10.9.4) with two users to separate my fishing club activities from the rest of my life. I would like to use different MAIL RULES to sort mail on each of the user accounts. I would also like to sync some of my activities such as Calendar, Contacts, Reminders, Notes between the accounts. If I link both accounts over iCloud, the MAIL RULES are synced period!! Unselecting mail for either or both accounts using the iCloud preference has no effect. To prevent syncing RULES requires signing one or the other account out of iCloud. This means, of course, that I am unable to sync Calendars, Contacts, etc. Does anyone know of a work-around for this dilemma?
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I'm using the same Apple ID for both accounts to allow syncing.
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Thank you for your Comments
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Icloud web unread mail

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I have the same problem since a couple of days as well as some other users complaining about the issue in a german forum.
--> http://www.mactechnews.de/forum/discussion/iCloud-zeigt-ungelesene-Mail-an-die-e s-nicht-gibt-311991.html
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Can't send mail through iCloud (Web)

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Hey vastphoto,
Not sure if this helps, but I've been unable to sync my icloud mail with the mac mail client (I think that's what you say your problem is) for the past couple of weeks. I stopped today and looked up the issue and did a little change and voila, it seems to be working fine now.
I'm not sure if this IS the fix and I'm honestly perplexed as to why you'd need to do this, BUT…
Open the mail client ->Preferences (Select iCloud account) -> Account Information (initial display) -> Under the 'Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP):
check and see if it says: smtp.me.com
if so then Click pull down -> Edit SMTP Server List (select smtp.me.com) -> change 'Server Name' (towards the bottom) to: smtp.icloud.com -> Click OK -> save it and 'maaaaaybeeeeeee' it's fixed?
This seemed to work for me, not sure why, but it did. Good luck.

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