Make to order planning in APO

Hi guys,
Can we do the make to order planning in APO ?
Thanks in advance
S.Murali

Hello,
You can carry out MTO planning in APO.
But normally we do not recommend since you may not be able to utilize advantages offered by APO.
With Regards
Mangesh A. Kulkarni

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Does Make To Order planning consider any SNP/PPDS Horizons

Guys
Does Make To Order planning consider any SNP/PPDS Horizons unike the Make to Stock scenario planning?
Thanks

Thanks for the response guys.
In RRP3 view, when I look at the Individual project segment demand, I do not see any SNP/PPDS Horizons. However, when I see the demands under the MTS segment, I can see the SNP/PPDS Horizons.
In MTS scenario, I understand that only those orders that falls within PPDS horizon are picked up by PPDS planning and orders outisde SNP horizon are picked up by SNP planning.
However, as MTO is purely PPDS planning, I am just wondering whether SNP or PPDS horizon comes into the picture in this scenario or not.
Further more, my primary concern in MTO scenario is, if PPDS horizon is taken into the picture ( which is usually in the near visible term and < SNP horizon, say 15 days), and as PPDS planning doesn't pick the demand in the MTO segment until the demand falls with in this horizon, aren't we not leveraging the full functionality of procurement planning, as PPDS plans the demand by picking it just before 15 days (in this example) of the original requirement date, and the company might not be able to fulfil the customer order as the replenishment time might be long for this particular product being procured/produced.
So, I am basically leaning towards an understanding that what ever demand that falls in the Individual Customer/Project segment (MTO), it will be picked up PPDS planning regard less of SNP/PPDS horizons.
Please advice, if my understanding is wrong and I would appreciate if you quote some examples which might help me better understand the scenario.
Thanks

Make to order - planing statergy - APO

Dear Guys,
The scenario is as follows
Finished Goods - Make to order
Raw Material and Semi must be procured or produced before sales order arrives for Fert
we are using APO with discrete manufacturing
which planning statergy can we use for this scenario in the material master in R/3 and APO
shall we use 52 and 40
or is there any other right planing statergy is available
Thanks in advance
Raj

Looking at the business process you have mentioned, strategies looks ok.
If you use in R/3 strategy 52 after CIFing it to APO by default strategy is Blank you may require to use user exit to fill the value in APO or manually require to update it as 40
Following is the observation :
R/3 Strategy                       APO Strategy
52                                     Blank
50                                      30 (PLANNING WITHOUT FINAL ASSEMBLY)
10                                      10 (MAKE-TO-STOCK PRODUCTION)
20                                      blank
Suggetion do the testing of your business scenario and select the standard, if using standard strategy it is not working fine customised it as per the requirement.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/61/95613b3e24526fe10000000a11402f/content.htm

Capacity requirement for long term planning and make to order planning

hello,
anybody please guide me.
my client using make to order scenarion and we are doing regulaly MRP run is MD50 with refernce to sales order.
sales orders planning will follow for 2 to 3 months.
at the same time my client wants to do long term planning also. to analize the capacity.
for that he is creatind planning scenario and multi level planning with MS02 also.
But the problem is when they are checking capacity requirement in cm38 it is showing only planning scenario load only. my client wants existing load and longterm planning load also. so they can plan the planning is sutibale in existing plan.
so how can i get both plan in CM 38or is there any other T.code to get that data.
please suggest me
Thanks & Regards
Bhakta

Hi Pierre and Rajesh,
When we create the simulation version, you have the possibility to choose the short-term planning. My point of view is, you can use the LTP fonction to do your scheduling for ex the next 3 months.
I think it's what Pierre did. Am I right ?
between to scheduling scenario to deliver my customer. With the simulation mode I can do my scheduling + use the MRP simulation to check if the raw material are available or not. Then use the MD04 to do the comparaison (or MS04 to compare between 2 scenario).
But I found 2 problems :
First : I don't find the parameters to show in the graphic MFS0, the planed fix order (I can only see the process order)
Second : When my scheduling is finished, I want to update my operational planning with the simulation version. But I don't want to do article by article : when you have 400 references (raw mat, packaging, finish goods) it's impossible (same issue like Pierre)
Have you found a solution for this 2 points ?

Make to order Planning Plant

Dear experts,
I have a configurable material which is produced in plant A and consumed in plant B. The customer order is created and cofigured in plant B. I want to produce my configurable material in plant A according to the customer order which is created in plant B. I can open the production order in plant A configured with this customer order but the planned plant is set B automatically by the system. However I want to issue(101) my material first in plant A and then transport it to plant B with stock transport order. But the system does not allow me to do 101 into plant A. Is there any way to do this.
Edited by: ahmet hasan on Sep 5, 2011 3:51 PM

Hi
Kindly ref to the below tables
MCAFVGV : Versions: Order Procedure
CAUFV: View "Order Headers PP/CO"
Regards
S.Senthil

Forecast Consumption in SNP for Make-to-Order products

We are working on using APO-SNP for Make-to-order products (PlngStrategyGroup = "81" in R/3). We want to achieve normal forecast consumptino on FinishedGoodLevel and generate PlndOrders which shall derive component demand for purchasing (such PlndOrers wont be released to production - they should only function as demand driven on component level)
What we have done so far: Forecast in APO-DP on Finished good level exists and has been released to SNP. The product gets "ciffed" from R/3 into APO material master with planning strategy group "20" (which is basically "make-to-stock") --> we were hoping this would allow us to use "normal" forecast consumption but nothing happens (FCST is not being consumpted by open Sales orders). Within the product view of such products APO is still "realizing" that this is a make-to-order product.
Any other ideas / thoughts what could be done to achieve "normal" forecast consumption on FGI level for make-to-order products in APO-SNP ?
Tks !

I checked in /n/SAPAPO/RRP3 (Product View), unfortunately only FC exists there
Seems that the open Sales Orders from R/3 are being created within another segment (the "element" Tab of RRP3 shows 2 segments:
1) "Make-to-stock" (which contains the FC)
2) "Make-to-order" (which contains the Sales Orders)
That might explain the issue I see (FC and SOs are in different planning segment --> no consumption). Reading about planning segments in the help sounds like I need to find a way to bring Sales Orders for Make-to-Order products into the Make-to-stock segment ... jus a thought .. any idea how to do this ? Does that mean I need to modify the CIF for Sales Order transfer for Make-to-order products ?
Tks
Thomas

Problem with Make to Order sales order

Hi,
We are facing a problem with sales order which has Make to order item catagory, Rescheduling is not happening for the sales order of this type. However, we have taken up this issue with SAP and SAP has replied that MTO sales order are Excluded from rescheduling program. SAP has suggested us to use CO28 to reschedule the Production order so that the changes can effect the corrorsponding sales order.
We have observed that when sales order is created with MTO item category, production order is automatically created but when we see the Requirement list in MD04 for the material there is an Exception message as '20' (Cancel process). After the production order is confirmed and goods reciept has done the quantity confirmed against the sales order is becoming ZERO and hence we could not able to create delivery for the sales order.
We kindly request you to help us in this regard. This is creating a big problem for our business.
Thanks counting on your support.
Warm Regards,
Sridhar Burugula

Dear ,
Did you check any sales order reference in your production order assingment tab? Did you check the cost roll up in sales order level based on the BOM and Routung created for dt FG?
I believe the link between Sales Order and Production order lies in requirement Type and Requirement Class in define planning strategy .
Check in you make to order planning stratgey -SPRO-Define Planning Strategy -Make To Order .Here you should keep the correct Requirement type for customer(OVZH) and requirement class (OVZG).
Check and revert
Regards
JH

Mrp for make to order scenario

hi gurus,
I have got a different and challenging scenario in make to order planning. production planning has to be made on sales order basis.for eg : a particular finished product, a sale order of 100 nos is generated. but all 100 nos cannot be produced in single plant. so it has to be distributed to 2-3 plants. one more thing is, for make to order scenario, there is no fixed lot size. based on sale order quantity, planned order is created irrespective of fixed lot size maintained in material master. IF my batch size is fixed, for make to order also based on fixed based size, planned order has to be created.
Can anybody suggest a better solution for this scenario?
Thank you all in advance. all useful replies will be rewarded.
regards,
senthil

Hello,
For MTO, Lot for Lot order quantity is defaulted..
So your receipt element will be as per your Sales Order.
Try this:
In T. Code : OMI4, for Lot Size : EX
Change the MTO Lot size to "1" Lot-for-Lot with rounding.
(Which is Blank by default - lot-for-lot)
Maitain the Rounding Value in MRP-1 Screen or Use Rounding Profile..
This Helps..
Regards,
Siva

Remaining Order Plan.....No SAP Notes Please....

Hi Everyone,
    I want someone who really understands Remaining Order Plan to validate if my understanding of it is correct or not. If it is not correct, I would like someone to explain it. I am not finding satisfactory answers from any SAP PS consultant yet, on Remaining Order Plan. Whenever, I ask this question, they say, they will get back with the answer and the next thing you know is that they have disappeared into Aladdin's Magic Lamp.
    I understand that,
    Assigned = Actual Costs + Commitment + Remaining Order Plan.
    I believe that Remaining Order Plan, basically is the value, that is deduced when we assign activities to WBS elements, and arrive at a certain figure called Planned Costs. At this point, All WBS elements have the status CRTD, .i.e., created.
     So at this stage (CRTD Status), I believe that, Assigned = Planned Costs, or we can also say that,
                                                                        Rem Ord Plan = Planned Costs.
     Now, Once we have released the WBS Elements, Actual Costs are going to be incurred, and we are gonna have additional commitments, apart from planned commitments, (realizing that we missed some commitments we had to assign while creating the plan during CRTD Status).
      So, Now during (REL Status), i.e., Released Status, the formula for Assigned would look like this.
       Assigned = Actual Costs + Commitments + Remaining Ord Plan.
Now, Referring to the Assigned Formula, in both the CRTD and REL status, lets analyze how Remaining Order Plan behaves.
     In the Released Status, if Actual Costs = 0 &
                                          Commitment = 0 &
                                          then,
                                          Assigned = 0 + 0 + RemOrdPlan.
                                  ==> RemOrdPlan = Plan Costs
                               Hence, Assigned = Planned Costs.
       As real costs are incurred (i.e., Actual & Commitments), values move from RemOrdPlan to Actual & Commitments Columns, or say they are apportioned appropriately to these two columns, and what is still remaining of the Planned Costs we would term that Remaining Order Plan.
        Suppose, Actual + Commitment = Planned Costs, at some stage in the project, It means, we havae reached the threshold value of the Planned Costs, and the combination of both Actual + Commitment, can cross the planned costs. ( not in all cases, but maybe in some cases, as no one can plan a project ideally anyhow ).
        Once the threshold value of Planned Costs has reached, it would mean that RemOrdPlan is completely apportioned appropriately to both Actual and Commitment Columns. Hence, the Assigned column would look like this...
        Assigned = Actual ( % of Rem Ord Plan) + Commitment ( Remaining % of Rem Ord Plan ) + 0.
        Here, 0 means, zero value in Remaining Order Plan, as it has distributed its values to Actual and Commitment in a certain percentage depending on how the project was executed.
Now, During one of the projects, I have noticed that,
if Planned costs was 100,000 during CRTD stage, they were distributed, in a certain percentage like say,
            10 % to Actual & 25% to Commitment. Hence, 65 % is still left with RemOrdPlan Column.
           Hence , Assigned = 100%,
            The problem is that, When you see, the System status, it shows, ISBD, Insufficient Budgeting, even if there is the same 65% amount available in the RemOrdPlan column. My argument, is that, when RemOrdPlan is something still consumable, how can the system show insufficient budgeting, ISBD status, when there is still 65% in Rem Ord Plan, and that same amount available in WBS element, (via budgeting transactions).
              Moreover, the Available Column should show the same amount as RemOrdPlan, that is 65% of the amount, but it does not. Because, in reality, RemOrdPlan is what is available, and still left to be consumed, until it becomes zero. I think, this concept is confusing all the project engineers who are SAP PS, users.
                 Please, can anyone throw more light on the above arguments.
Regards,
Owais.....

Dear Owais,
Let me try to explain my understanding about availability control and residual order plan =) hope it'll help
The problem is that, When you see, the System status, it shows, ISBD, Insufficient Budgeting, even if there is the same 65% amount available in the RemOrdPlan column. My argument, is that, when RemOrdPlan is something still consumable, how can the system show insufficient budgeting, ISBD status, when there is still 65% in Rem Ord Plan, and that same amount available in WBS element, (via budgeting transactions).
Status ISBD is set for any activity which is relevant for availability control which increase the assigned value not actual value.
If you include the activity group 02 (Orders for project) in your availability control setting then any increase you make in order plan value will trigger the availability control ergo it will set the ISBD status if the value exceeds the tolerance limit even it's still a plan value, not an actual value yet
Moreover, the Available Column should show the same amount as RemOrdPlan, that is 65% of the amount, but it does not. Because, in reality, RemOrdPlan is what is available, and still left to be consumed, until it becomes zero. I think, this concept is confusing all the project engineers who are SAP PS, users.
IMO, if the system shows the 65% of the amount in Available column, user will assume that that amount is free to use while in fact the value is already 'reserved' only for material/activity which has been planned, user can't post any cost outside what has been planned
Please correct me if I'm wrong =)
Regards,
-K-
Edited by: Kealin F on Mar 30, 2009 5:54 AM

Planning of Dependent Requirements for BOM Components in Make to Order scen

Hi Friends - I want to execute a full cycle Make to Stock Scenario with Materials planning using MRP.
The scenario will include BOM Components with Routing.
The process flow I want to execute -
1. Create a Sales Order for a Finished Product (Product should have a BOM for Production)
2. Do the product Materials Planning for the Sales Order through MD50
3. Get all the dependent material requirements (both for products as Planned Order and also for BOM Components - all the BOM components should also be planned)
4. Convert Planned Order for Product to Production Order
5. Convert Planned Orders for BOM components to Purchase Requisition
6. Confirm Production Order
To execute this I have done the following
1. I have created a Material Master data for Finished Product (FERT).
2. I have assigned Item Category Group - NORM, and General Item Category group as NORM
3. I have assigned MRP Type PD in MRP 1 View and Strategy Group 20 (Make to Order Production) in MRP 3 View.
4. Now created a Universal (Type 3) BOM for the product with one material component.
5. Now also created a Routing for the Material with two operations having PP01 a control key.
6. Now created a standard sales order for the product.
7. Executed the MD50 for the Sales Order Item.
Now where do I find the BOM components for this material in the Sales Order?
After executing the planning Run MD50 I am only getting the requirements for Product only. I can't see any dependent requirements for the BOM components.
How do I make sure that the BOM components are also planned while the product is planned?
I have checked the component Stock Requirement List - there are no requirements generated from the Sales Order Product BOM.
Pls help me on this. How to do this so that the raw material components are also planned?
Thanks
Purnendu

Hi Dhaval, Sandeep, Ashok - Thanks a lot for your replies.
I have checked the Planned Order Created through Planning Run.
If I click on the Components Tab I am getting following message
No material components were determined
Message no. 61027
Diagnosis
Until now, no BOM explosion has been carried out or no BOM has been created for this material yet.
Procedure
Either explode the bill of material for this material, or
create the components manually by processing the planned order in change mode.
If I try to explode the BOM through Header Menu - Edit> Explode BOM
I am getting the same message.
If I click on the Bill of Material Tab - I am getting the same above messge.
Ashok - I have tried both the Selection Method -
Nil - Selection by Order Quant.
1 - Selection by Explosion Date
But with no effect.
Waiting for your advice.
Thanks and warm regards
Purnendu

SNP planned order deleted in APO, but not in R/3.

OK Guru's,
We have a situation where during the weekend SNP planning runs, SNP Planned orders are deleted in APO, but the order is never deleted in R/3. The change pointer is not in CPP and there are no failed queues. Also, when you run CCR on planned orders, we will get an error on some orders saying "Not in APO" and the only option to reconcile that order is to "Send to APO". The option that should exist is "delete in R/3" becuase the deletion never occured in R/3.
If you send the order back to APO, the order will show in the "Production Confirmed" line of the Planning Book. This is because APO is thinking that this order is an order that was created in R/3 when in fact is it really is a SNP planned order.
Any clues to why this would happen?
thanks,
Brian

How are you getting the SNP Planned Orders to R/3 in the first place.
If you are transferring them using /SAPAPO/RRP7 then I guesss its a manual transfer and system does not consider SNP Planned Order deletion flag relevant for transfer to R/3.
You will need to look into CIF enhancement to send the deletions to R/3.
Normally SNP Planned Orders are not relevant for transfer to R/3 unless its replaced or converted to a PPDS planned order.
Somnath

Planning strategy for Both scenario of Make to order and make to stock

Hi
My client having Both scenario of Make to order and make to stock ,so please explain me step by step which Planning strategy is use for following situation
1.Forecast the production quantities for the variants and create the PIRs
2.sales order is created for variants
3.Planned independent requirements should consumed by incoming sales orders
Note:If it is MTO scenario i need sales order reference number in production order
With regards
Laxmipathi

Hi,
You can Define Strategy Group under SPRO>Production>Prod.Planning>PIR>Planning strategy-->define st.Group.
In this step, you group strategies together into a strategy group. You can determine a main strategy as well as up to seven alternative strategies.
The main strategy is proposed in demand management or in sales order management and can be overwritten by another planning strategy defined in the strategy group.
You can allocate the strategy groups to the materials directly in the material master record, or you can allocate the strategy groups to an MRP group and then in a second step allocate the MRP group to the material in the material master record.
Hope it will help you.
Regards,
Mukesh

Planning run for make to order strategy

Hi,
I am trying to run the complete planning cycle for strategy group 20. But i am unable to do so. Can u please give me a detailed description on the same.
P.S. I did the planning run for strategy group 10, that is , making a plan and converting to active plan etc.
But unable to run for strategy group 20.
Please look into the same.
Br,
Geetu

Hi Geetu
Make to Order Means :
Produce/ Procure the material for this Sales Order (----
Strategy Means :
Effe. procedure/plan to execute Requ.
Advantages of Make to Order :
Reduce the Inventory
Reduce the Cost
Flexible to Customer Requirements
MAKE to ORDER STRATEGY 20
(Pure make to Order)
===============================================================================
u2022     Production & purchase are triggered by Sales order receipt
u2022     System will not perform net requirement calculation between individual sales orders
u2022     Produced quantities canu2019t be switched between one sales order to other
u2022     System creates individual planned orders against each sales order recd. With ref
u2022     Individual & collective requirement indicator controls the level up to which MTO is applicable
u2022     Goods Issue against the sales order reduces the requirement
u2022     System manages the production & procurement costs specifically for each sales order in settlement order
u2022     Lot for lot order qty, is the default lot size followed in MTO, irrespective of the settings in MRP1
==================================================================================
Create a material(MM01) with Strategy Group :20 ( MRP3)
You can check & confirm all those properties by creating a Sales Order (VA01)
See the effect of it after running the MRP ( MD02),
Check the Results in Stock Requirement List ( MD04)
Also, check the stock level of the same material before the Sales Order &
after the Sales Order
If possible, Create One more Sales Order &
see how the quantities of the individual sales Orders are managed.
You can verify all the prosperities of Make to Order (Strategy :20) by yourself
Hope this may Help
BRSR

PPDS Make to order issue

hi Gurus,
we are creating make to order sale order and material is Configurable.
my is that, report is missing some SALES order in the report against the Production order or purchase order
as we have created all sales order as MTO.
When I created any purchase order for 1000 quantity against that Sales order and we did GR for for 900.
system is automaticaly creating Make to stock order and sending requirement to APO to generate plan order.
Due to this what ever plan order generated as a Make to stock system is not showing any Sales order infront if that plan order.
My client doesn't want to create MTS plan order for any material as it is all MTO and configurable
Please suggest the way
thanks in advance..!
Best regards,
Nilesh I

Hi Nilesh,
Your requirement is not so clear.
When I created any purchase order for 1000 quantity against that Sales order and we did GR for 900.
system is automatically creating Make to stock order and sending requirement to APO to generate plan order.
What do you mean by this? When you post the GR for the PO on sales order stock, using movement type 101 E, it should be in sales order stock only. Then why again there is a requirement.
Could you please clearly give your requirement with simple example? Like Created sales order in ECC > Sales order displayed in MTO segment in Product view> and so on...
Regards,
Manimaran M.

Planning in APO with configurable products

Dear Gurus
we would like to use APO DP in order to plan the demand of configurable products managing the demand figures only for a combination of the two main products characteristics (model/version) without having in DP all the complexity of the order configuration.
Moreover we would like to allocate this forecast to the plants and make a rough capacity planning. The levelled forecast (MPS) should then be used to explode the dependent demand of the critical components at SKU level.
In order to manage this process I was thinking to introduce u201Cdummy codesu201D that represent the charatteristics combination and u201Cdummy BOMu201D for the explosionu2026. This in order to be albe to use SNP to perform the capacity planning and BOM explosion.
Other scenario could be to make the capacity planning and BOM explosion only in DP (with planning BOM) but Iu2019m not sure of the feasibilityu2026
Could you advise on which could be a possible approach and if you had such similar issue to face? Thanks in advance
Regards
Ayan Bishnu

Hi,
Here you may think of using planning product concept. Inshort you may plan on the basis of one of your critical subassembly
and this subassembly wud be consumed for most of the order demands.
Please check if it is suitable for you and revert
Thanks,
Mangesh A. Kulkarni

Make to order planning in APO

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