Management or Cost Center Segment

Hi
I am newbie and setting up my accounting flexfield segments. I want to have department as one of the segment. How should I qualify it as Cost Center or Management. I want to track the budget and expense by the department.
I would really .appreciate all your advice.
Regards
Reem

Hi
use the below link which will give you more idea of Management segment Qualier with an demonstrated example.
http://www.oracleappshub.com/release12/r12-management-reporting-security/
Regards
Madhav G
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