MIRO subsequent Credit / Debit.

Hi Gurus,
Can someone tell me how and when we use subsequent debit/credit when we r dng a MIRO. Also through some light if i get an invoice which has freight charges not included in PO but to be paid to a freight vendor. I have deal with the freight vendor so he sends me an invoice for a whole period at once. now can i post these costs to the different PO' related goods he delivered to me???
These r different questions asked by my SME..

Any one plzz

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Document type for Subsequent Credit/Debit for idoc invoic01/02

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We are implemeting an interface to post incoming invoice with idoc Invoic01 idoc type.
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But we would also like to post Subsequent Credit/Debit memos also with this idoc type but not sure what should be used in document type field ( BSART) in idoc.
If any one has come across this scenario please suggest whether is it possible to use Invoic01 idoc type to post Subsequent Credit/Debit notes if yes what is the document types used? also I see in OBCE transaction we can only mention Invoice document type for debit and credit invoices only. How to handle this incase of subsequent Credit/Debit invoices.
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Hello Rish,
Please, be aware that if you look at the document at MIR4/MIRO etc, they will apear as a INVOICE/CREDIT MEMO (in the "Drop down" box, in the top of transaction)even if they are sub. credit/deb, but that is the standard system behavior ! In order to check if it is a Subcequent debit/credit, you can check directly into rbkp table or even better, just check in the PO history! it will be in a separate category !
Give it a check if this is not the case!
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Cenvat Adjustment for subsequent credit/debit posted

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Is it necessary to do Cenvat Adsjustment in J1IH for subsequent credit/debit posted against PO.
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Hello Rish,
Please, be aware that if you look at the document at MIR4/MIRO etc, they will apear as a INVOICE/CREDIT MEMO (in the "Drop down" box, in the top of transaction)even if they are sub. credit/deb, but that is the standard system behavior ! In order to check if it is a Subcequent debit/credit, you can check directly into rbkp table or even better, just check in the PO history! it will be in a separate category !
Give it a check if this is not the case!
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Dear all,
I am a bit confuse what kind of posting (i.e. subsequent credit/debit) is require in MIRO.
scenario:
Our vendor will give us discount and normally will combine the discount amount in the vendor invoice.
Example:
PO with RM100
Invoice will show          $100
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                           total : $80
Finance will pay $80.
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Hi Kris
If I will to choose your method, this is what I did in MIRO but still got some issue.
1 - Put in the PO as the reference and hits enter key, the Balance field value (on top of MIRO) shown $150. And the one line item shown $150
2 - Put in the discount $20 on the discount field (i.e. cash discount field right?) in the payment tab.
3 - Change the line item amount field to $100
4 - tick the tax checkbox, and put in the value of $100 in the header Amount field (ie. above tax amount field)
hit simulate and post?
is that correct?
but this RM100 is MIRO and PO is RM150, will this cause problem? or my step is wrong.
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Credit memo and Subsequent Credit/Debit Scenarios

Hi All,
I have to present all the invoicing scenarios to the client. These also include credit memo and subsequent credit/debit.
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Hello,
Subsequent Debit and Credits
After an Invoice is successfully posted and the transaction is completed, Vendor approaches with additional amount invoice or correction in Invoice.You would like to post this additional invoice with reference to the original PO and item. Subsequent Debit / Credit functionality allows you to capture this difference without canceling original invoice.
Please check this link
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/a8/b99890452b11d189430000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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Is this the right behaviour?
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Dear Venkat,
A Credit Memo is a document used to null the transaction entered by the Invoice.
So for example, if you create an AR Invoice for one of your customers and then your customer returns the quantity you would need an AR Credit Memo to null the AR Invoice.
In a demo I could not see any Subsequent Credit memo, so I would need to know if you are using any add-on.
If this document is in the demo without add-on can you please tell me which localisation you are using?
Thank you.
Marcella Rivi
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Credit memo or invoice vs subsequent credit/debit

hi,
after invoice is posted, there is a correction from vendor. no quantity change. only value change.
1 if only value affected, can i create credit memo with reference to PO rather than use subsequent credit? still giving the same result right?
2 if only value affected, can i create invoice with reference to PO rather than use subsequent debit? still giving the same result right?
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rgds

Hello Eliana ,
1 if only value affected, can i create credit memo with reference to PO rather than use subsequent credit? still giving the same result right?
No , if only value changes, you have to use subsequent credit / debit. Credit memo is used to reduce the vendor liability with change in qty.
Credit memo is done in case of material to be returned to vendor. When you post a credit memo, the postings are reversed from the GR/Ir clearing account and the vendor account. But when you post a subsequent credit/debit the postings will be to the stock account and the vendor account.
The account postings for a subsequent debit/credit depend on the quantity that the subsequent debit/credit applies to:
If the quantity of the subsequent debit/credit is smaller than or the same as the quantity delivered, the system tries to post the subsequent debit/credit to the stock account. If the material is valuated with a standard price or if there is insufficient stock coverage for the quantity to be debited or credited, the amount is posted to a price difference account.
If the quantity of the subsequent debit/credit is larger than the quantity delivered, the system distributes the relevant amount proportionally. The part of the subsequent debit/credit that does not have a goods receipt is posted to the GR/IR clearing account. The remaining amount is posted to the stock account u2013 or in the case of standard price control or insufficient stock coverage u2013 to a price difference account.
2 if only value affected, can i create invoice with reference to PO rather than use subsequent debit? still giving the same result right?
No, if you create one more invoice, the qty invoiced will be increased by the qty you mention in the invoice.
ie if you have posted an invoice for 100 qty @ 10 per qty and again if you try to post the difference amount of 250 for total 100qty, system will update the invoice qty as 200, and it is wrong.
You have to use subsequent credit/debit.
So the thumb rule is that, if only value changes after Invoice verification, use subsequent credit/ debit and if there is qty and value changes, use credit memo / invoice.
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Gregory Mathews

Subsequent Credit & Debit

What is the use of subsequent debit & credit in MIRO
Regards
Vaibhav

Hi,
Sub Sequent Credit : - Debit note
Sub Sequent Debit : - Credit note.
I give one example to u.
Case 1 : -
Suppose you have purchase order of 100 qty and 10 Rs rate per material.
Now at the time of good receipt you have receive material 100 but party send material per 11 Rs.
So you have to give debit note to party per 1 Rs. At this time you have to use Sub Sequent Credit.
Case 2: - PO = 100 qty, Rate = 10 Rs.
Party send material 100 nos but 10 materials are demage due to this you have receive only 90 materials.
So you have to give debit note for 10 qty( 100 Rs.) At this time you have to use Sub sequent Credit.
Case 3 : - PO = 100 qty, Rate = 10 Rs.
But after some times rate is up as 11 Rs. per material or extra fright is given by vendor and if u want to pay this charges you have to use Sub Sequent Debit.
Normally if you want to give debit note to party you have to use Sub Sequent Credit and if u want to give credit note you have to use Sub Sequent Debit in SAP.
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MIRO subsequent Credit Memo

Hello Everyone,
When I am posting a subsequent credit memo through MIRO for a Purchase Order with account assignment category Asset,
I am getting the following error message
"Balance for transaction type group 10 negative for the area 01
Diagnosis
With the transaction entered, the balance for the transactions in group 10 in area 01 will be negative in this fiscal year. However, the balance of transaction type group 10, according to its definition, must be positive in each fiscal year.
System Response
The system rejects this posting.
Procedure
Check the transaction type, the amount and the fiscal year in your posting. If you want to post a credit memo to an acquisition from the previous year, then use a transaction type for a retirement. If necessary, you can change balance rules after talking with your SAP consultant".
Can you please let me how to change the Transaction type in MIRO or how to go abt this issue.
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Vaman A

Hi,
Good evening and greetings,
The solution for your problem is as below
For this posting change the +/- sign allowed for the transaction type group to '*'.
First you must activate the maintenance of the table in the ABAP dictionary for table TABWG (transaction SE11).
You should then call transaction SE16. Enter table TABWG and select the affected transaction type group. Set the value '*' in field VZJSA.
Once you have made the posting, you should decide whether you want to set the /- sign check again (VZJSA = ''), or whether a negative balance should continue to be allowed for this transaction type group.
Alternatively, you can also change the proposed transaction type for the invoice receipt of affiliated companies. To do this, go to IMG Asset Accounting -> Transactions -> Determine transaction type for internal transactions.
Instead of transaction type 152, enter transaction type 151 there under 'Acquisition from invoice receipt (affiliated)'.
Check whether transaction type 151 in your system corresponds to the transaction type 151 described in note 327088.
This is as per SAP OSS Note 139899 - AA629 when posting MR01/MRHR/MIRO invoice receipt
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With kindest regards
Ramesh Padmanabhan

Reg Error: Message No FF 747 in MIRO Subsequent Credit.

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While posting a subsequent credit in miro system is giving error message.
message is The tax amount must not be greater than tax base amount.
it is like credit memo for high priced amount in invoice.
could you please put some light on this.
thanks in advance.
Gerhard

Hi
In tax code give 0% tax so that it will not caliculate any tax on that. Hope this will help you.
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Subsequent Credit / Debit memo

Hi SAPERS,
Please provide me some clarity on
In Logistics invoice verification:
What is Credit memo, in which business scenario it will happen?
What is Subsequent Credit memo, in which business scenario it will happen?
What is Subsequent debit memo, in which business scenario it will happen?
Thanks in advance,
venkat.

Dear Venkat,
A Credit Memo is a document used to null the transaction entered by the Invoice.
So for example, if you create an AR Invoice for one of your customers and then your customer returns the quantity you would need an AR Credit Memo to null the AR Invoice.
In a demo I could not see any Subsequent Credit memo, so I would need to know if you are using any add-on.
If this document is in the demo without add-on can you please tell me which localisation you are using?
Thank you.
Marcella Rivi
SAP Business One Forums Team

Due date in subsequent credit / credit memo

Hi gurus!,
In MIRO subsequent credit and credit memo the system does not calculate the due date according to payment terms. It takes as due date the baseline date. Any suggestions to solve this issue??
Thanks in advance,
George

Try this
put the invoice number and year for which you want to post subquent adjustment in the payment tab invoice ref field ,then system will default the payment terms from the original invoice .
if you want put different payment terms from original invloice in the subsquent debit/credit ,then you have to put V in the invoice reference field .
hope it helps

Credit/debit note issue against a PO?

Hello Guru's,
how do we issue a subsequent credit / debit against a PO and not invoice?
Thanks

Hello,
In MIRO, you will have drop down box.
1. Invoice
2. Debit memo
3. Subsequent debit
4. Subsequent credit.
To reverse an invoice, post debit memo.
However, the posting procedure is more or less same as Invoice only.
Hope this solves your issue.
Regards,
Ravi

Subsequent credit display from PO

Hi friends,
I post subsequent credit by using MIRO.
And I double click subsequent credit line item from purchase order history by using ME23N.
Why the Transaction in header is "2 credit memo" not "4 subsequent credit " in display invoice document screen?

Hi Pankaj,
Thanks for taking time to reply to my post.
Transaction type 'RD' includes Subsequent Credit/Debit memo. So, using this field we cannot differentiate a Subsequent Credit/Debit from a MIRO Invoice.
Thanks,
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Credit memo and subsequent credit

Can anybody tell what is the difference between a Credit memo and subsequent credit memo.
I am finding the impact of both on the PO as same.

Hi,
The difference betwen them is that a credit memo quantity and amount are
affected but in subsequent credit only the amount is affected nor quantity.
For example.
You have in your po history.
GR    amount quantity
x        10          10
IR (normal invoice)
x       10           10
Credit memo
x      5              5
Now you have invoice 5 amount 5 quantity
if you made a subsequent for per example
amount 5
in your po history you have pending
0 amount an 5 quantity
This quantity you must regularize with transaction MR11
Transaction mr11 only regularize quantities but not amounts,so for this is used
subsequent credit/debit.
I hope my explanation helps you now to understand the differences.
Best regards.
Antonio.

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