Monitoring DVCPRO HD 30pn

I am interested in monitoring HD coming out of a new 8 core mac pro (which I don't own quite yet). I shoot DVCPRO HD 720/30PN and edit in FCP 6.0.6. I talked to someone at blackmagic and they said their cards don't support 30P (or 30PN) and I would have to drop the footage onto a Blackmagic 720p 59.94/60 timeline if I was to use their products. Would this result in long render times and resolution loss? Is there a better product to monitor my footage with? any suggestions on a good small HD monitor?
thanks for any help
power mac g5 dual 2.7 /4 gb ram (for now) osx 10.5.8 fcp 6.0.6 4TB esata enclosure
macbook pro 2.4 ghz 4 gb ram Mac OS X (10.5.8) FCP 6.0.6

It won't monitor it at all? because I have used the AJA Kona cards and the Matrox boxes and you can monitor fine, you just need to set the VIEW options to 720p 59.94. Not the sequence settings. Works fine.
Just for monitoring? I have and like the Matrox MXO2...there is the MXO2 LE if you need cheaper with less audio options and the ability to input video. or the MXO2 Mini if you only need to monitor. Or the AJA Kona LHi if you want another option.
HD monitor? How expensive can you get? Because pro monitors range from $2500 - $50,000. But with the MXO2 line you can use HDMI and the built in calibration tools to make a decent HDTV look good.
Shane

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    Any suggestions would be appreciated,
    Steve

    Hi
    You absolutely can ... as long as you have the DVC Pro HD codecs installed. I have used a lowly G4 Power Book with 2 GIG on many occasions to playback full screen 720p 24/30 fps from a FW400 drive. (60fps and 1080p might be too much..)
    I just project the desktop through a projector and it looks awesome. It's the fewest compression cycles you can get assuming you shot in DVCPro HD.
    However I too am experiencing choppy playback from QT 7.2 on MacPro's. In fact playback of any format is choppy under QT7.2!
    My MacBook Pro however is fine with the same software...
    Something bad is going on with QT....
    Lee

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